Salt Water
Started by unknown · · 11 posts · last reply 7 August 2015
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In the New Zealand video, Stan mentions that when he met with high ranking Officers from the Air Force he advised them of the possibility that a fighter jet could fly down just above the ocean's surface and scoop up salt water, thereby giving the jet an "unlimited range".
Has anyone given any thought as to how he could use salt water in his system? People in the government and military apparently thought he was on to something, or he wouldn't have been given so many meetings. It seems to me that everyone is focusing on the basic electrolysis part of Meyer's system, without considering his more advanced techniques. -
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electrotek, voltage if used as meyer said should break the molecules because its really strong field... the salt only problem is that it will keep increasing the concentration as water rapidly is consumed changing the parameters.
Meyer complete solution to this was the injectors.. a kind of powerful fuel cell that water only gets in and completely flush out every injection cycle...
from my understanding salt or other electrolyte is maybe a kind of good for the reaction except for it break the laws of economics creating waste products which are not desirable... as per stan words mentioning horvath in same video...
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Salt in the water would increase its conductivity quite a bit. I wonder if this means he was secretly using insulated electrodes, while using non insulated electrodes in his public demonstrations with normal water? His public cells were much bigger than his injector cell.
He said his system used potential only, and the only current was the normal leakage current associated with any capacitor. Insulation would not block the potential from his pulses. -
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The static electricity balloon which attracts a little stream of water from the faucet doesn't touch the water. It's insulated by the air.
I'll build a static generator and see if it attracts a salt water stream. -
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The static electricity balloon which attracts a little stream of water from the faucet doesn't touch the water. It's insulated by the air.
I'll build a static generator and see if it attracts a salt water stream.
This is a very very good remark!
Thank you for this.
Statics electricity insulated by air works on water........
Hmmmmmm
How to translate this to the VDG?
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#6 · date not recorded
the problem with insulation is one... it will limit the current you can apply to water to get it charged... the advantage is that it accumulate charge and this can than be used to break the molecule if proper circuit is used... ex.. fracture cell... of course the higher the dielectric the higher will be the ability to polarize water but whatever dielectric will do this screening process leaving you with the need to use several thousand volts to get over the insulation screening. a metal won't screen e fields for example...
i constructed 2 fracture cells few years ago.. .but could not get over the high ozone production...
basically when you have insulator and conductor you get an interface problem when you use high voltage...
basically as you reach a voltage where corona happens the insulator will hold this charge and will be little hard to discharge it.. . since the charges flew away from metal...
what can be done is to metallize the insulator on both sides granting the good touching of the electrode and insulator... this way the air inside won't get ionized.. another approach now i know would be to fill with oil..
an insulator allow a high current to flow initially than it will restrict this current... if you revert it it will create a high current peak..
an inductor initially impedes the current to flow fighting against it with a potential to not allow current to flow... when current stops the voltage is reversed...
in a transformer you can get other coupled inductors that will create a potential copying the potential of the first coil but also allowing to connect in reverse.. also it provide insulation..
i was thinking about a brazilian patent that mention meyer...
they seem to use the same idea of the chokes to steal energy from the electric company...
basically a transformer that steps the voltage in a sense that if you connect in series with the plug makes your bill value go backwards..
they say they capture electrons from earth...
i'm almost sure they step up the voltage and use the line to connect the system so the clock run backwards since current is flowing in the other direction...
they say it amplify power...
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#7 · date not recorded
this brazilian patent makes a citation about stanley meyer patent about the magnetized particle electrical generaotor...
it just led me to one question...
Any of you have an EPG constructed?
what if you put 100 amps on the copper tube... and kind of use magnets to polarize the electrons... as they move can't they now generate current in a coil perpendicular to it?
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#8 · date not recorded
about the barbosa patent i think that could be simpler than we imagine... i think the idea used this principle...
here we get two 110v volts two phases and ground... when the energy comes down the line they are connected to ground too so its part of the circuit.
lets suppose we had a 1:1 transformer connected to its phases ... so i have now 220v insulated from the source...
now just connect this 220v to 1 antiphase and ground what you get is 110v but whatever current you consume will go in opposite direction on the clock meter...
if it were an step up it would also work... because the load current must pass thru source in backwards direction.. or thru the same primary adding to the original field as a positive feedback..
ex/ you have an 220v source and a stepup transformers simply connect the secondary and primary on one side in phase and the load across the other side of secondary and the other primary side...
probably the side effect is that this current must pass thru the network output transformers... (those are step down so should already be rated for high current...
if you would buck the voltage you would be paying for lot more electricity than you used for example...
thinking about the EPG meyer used charged particles set them into movement to get energy..
electrons in this shorted coil seems to me like the same
maybe i'm just confuse.. may that only trick the clock? i don't think its free energy there might be something missing..
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I've made two attempts in the past three days to build a static generator. Both were defeated by defective components. Rather than wait for new parts to come in the mail, I'm considering a third design. -
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you can create a van de graph with cocacola can in you tube you find something ...
is not very hard..
i never tried.. i once tried to make the kelvin thunderstorm but got no results either... i didn't add salt to water, thought... -
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That's very close to what I'll try next. But if I put my tube inside the can, it might make too much static and discharge right away. I'm thinking to try a HV wire to the inside of the can, with a grounded ring below the can. When the wire sparks to the ring, the charge on the wire above the ring will transfer to the can. Maybe.
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