The waveform you claim is "impossible" is not impossible at all. The only difference between that envelope and what Stan shows as the output of the 8xa circuit is that the amplitude increases with each pulse. This is exactly what would be expected if a number of choke coils were spaced along a standing wave. As the amplitude of the standing wave increases, so will the amplitude of the pulse produced by the coil at that position.
If he reported getting fusion, or transmutation, I think that indicates he was using exotic energy. The same thing with the Papp Motor. By exotic energy I mean a signal which contains more than one wave form. At a minimum, this would be two potentials which are at 90 degrees, or 180 degrees. For instance, when a cap discharges in series with an inductor, the inductor's CEMF is also present. Unlike a cap discharging in parallel with the inductor.
My question dealt with comparing your results to normal electrolysis. Meyer's claim was that he produced an unusual amount of Hydrogen for the amount of power he used. What is YOUR benchmark?
VOM refers to a Volt/Ohm Meter. It can even be used to estimate capacitance, based on how fast the needle swings, compared to a reference value component.
The Ball Lightning post was introductory, as it shows I can, in fact, produce the needed exotic energy. I'm one of a very few people in the world who have produced Ball Lightning, and I understand the energy. More importantly, I know how to use that energy, apart from the BL itself. So please remember that's what my Meyer work is about - exotic energy's effect on water. And, more importantly, why I think Meyer's hardware can produce this energy. He just doesn't show everything.
I didn't say I'm humble towards you, only that I have that characteristic. Einstein said that ego is reciprocal to amount of knowledge. You?
If I have any questions for you I'm humble enough to ask, as I do value some of your input. But don't expect this to happen very often.
And what is my Ball Lightning theory that you keep mentioning? I've told you a few times now that I'm not using the BL, only the energy generated by that circuit. But then, you just said yourself that you ignore what I say.
I've specifically shown that my exotic energy can be produced with a dielectric sheet placed between two coils, exactly the same as the insulating barriers between Stan's multiple chokes. And that this energy has a repulsive effect on non charged liquid water. Get it?
That's very close to what I'll try next. But if I put my tube inside the can, it might make too much static and discharge right away. I'm thinking to try a HV wire to the inside of the can, with a grounded ring below the can. When the wire sparks to the ring, the charge on the wire above the ring will transfer to the can. Maybe.
The part I don't get is that Ed keeps repeating that he's not willing to do the 'get bumped off' part of it, and has said that even if he does get it working, he "won't tell a soul". (Dem be da rules.")
I agree no one should be ignored. Anyone might have some little thing which is important. It is the off topic which should be ignored. More so if off topic is to distract or misdirect or clutter. Off topic is ignore in reverse. Some say too much "ignore yours, here is mine". Even copy long messages from their own thread, instead of giving a simple link, with only a short discussion. Which may still be off topic to the other's thread. This should be ignored.
I don't understand this post. Do you or do you not want this technology and just who is being ignored?
You're ignoring what I said at our other forum, about why I DO want the technology. (ie, Something which WORKS - not just someone's "original ideas", as you call it. And you're also ignoring what you just quoted me as saying: "No one" (meaning YOU) "should be ignored". That's all I'm going to say about this; I have IMPORTANT things I'm spending my time on.
A switching diode, as Stan Meyer used it, is a component which blocks reverse current, up to a point, then 'switches' to its reverse mode, passing the backwards potential. This prevents excessive voltage build up on the fuel cell capacitor, even allowing it to discharge to some extent. I've found in the past, through working with one of my own circuits, that an effective application requires a diode with a PIV rating right at, or close to, the maximum desired potential. And the diode also has to be rated as "reversible". This means that it can pass an expected level of reverse current without burning out. The how and the why is detailed in Steve's link.
Salt in the water would increase its conductivity quite a bit. I wonder if this means he was secretly using insulated electrodes, while using non insulated electrodes in his public demonstrations with normal water? His public cells were much bigger than his injector cell.
He said his system used potential only, and the only current was the normal leakage current associated with any capacitor. Insulation would not block the potential from his pulses.
Back when I was a kid, someone was kind enough to stop by one day, when when I was playing with my Model T ignition coil, and show me how to tune the spark gap. Then he had me do it, to make sure I had it down. This coil was designed and patented by Tesla, specifically for Henry Ford.
When the spark gap is tuned to resonance, it makes a frying sound. I think I'll make a Tube Cell, connect it to my current Model T coil, and see what happens. Then I'll do some calculations and see if the 'straight wire inductance' of the tubes is a factor in the resonant frequency.
Fabian: >i was considering with myself what would be the best way to really break the molecules... a positive field, a negative field... what would be the difference between both to you?
I think he's using two kinds of fields, electrical and magnetic. Water is diamagnetic and Tesla's 'paramagnetic energy' repels it, even while the same electrode pulls it electrically.
>than meyer say he uses positive field... that chokes doubles the frequency applied... that it restrict the amps... what you say?
A choke has two windings in opposition, so it does restrict the amps. Any change in frequency just means the input is adjusted accordingly.
>well i think i get my answer whats yours?
Both electrodes are paramagnetic, regardless of polarity. This repels the molecules from both sides and holds them steady. One electrode is also positive, electrically, which pulls the H ion. The other electrode is electrically negative, which pulls the O ion. My picture shows paramagnetic energy, without a diode. With a diode on the cap, these pictures will look the same, regardless of electrical polarity, which can be however we want.
When I say music, I mean the composition of the input waveforms.
My idea is that the 'music' could disrupt the attraction between the water molecules, rather than the valance bond within a single molecule. If it works, then some frequency might disrupt the valance through a similar process.
This is all very good, but if we define free energy as energy which is available to do work, then we can also consider sub quantum heat from the H, after it's been broke out of the water, and as it impacts along the inside of the waveguide due to the voltage pulses. This would add kcal's to the output.
If we need a power supply to test lower voltage electrolysis with change in entropy we could put a heating coil around part of the injector. I made a small foundry with a 1500 W. cone shaped heating element with a light bulb base. This would be around two Hp on the input. Add another kW for the electrolysis, then see how much heat comes out the jet nozzle at the end. I won't be surprised if this heat is greater than you'd get just using the same power input for electrolysis to burn. The screw base on the heater element can come off and the cone can be fastened to the central injector pipe with furnace cement. Then all of this can be put in a small clay flower pot, filled with aluminum oxide pellets and sealed, top and bottom, around the pipe, with more silicate cement. The output end of the injector should transition to a venturi, and a crude one of these can be made from the top half of a Chung King soy sauce bottle. I'm building a bottle cutter right now and I may try something like this too. Seems like a good idea.
If the water vaporizes instantly, it may form super heated steam. If it does, we can use a steam extractor to pull in even more water, which becomes the type of steam which can drive a steam engine. Or less. Depends on the degree of aspiration, and the amount and velocity of the instant steam. At the very least, we can use this to adjust the burn rate.
An electret might work as part of the emitter, but it would be better to use Farnsworth's multipactor cold cathode because you'd get more electrons to accelerate through the curved part of the tube, with the non conductive electret. The best type of emitter is a thin film diamond layer, like is used in some of the flat panel displays such as plasma screens. These have enough power you don't have to have a vacuum interface for the tunneling effect. But you would have to use Helium or some gas which doesn't form negative ions. Ions can eventually reduce an electret's charge.
