russwr wrote:
Reference to 2005-2008 S1R9A9M9 web site Yahoo groups Waterfuel1978 forum + You tube videos S1R9A9M9 1+2. El Camino Car and 18HP Briggs lawnmower engines ran on water . Well known phenomena of amplified spark expands water to 1000 times as water vapor pressure. The unusual choking magnetic coils for ignition high voltage line allows for extended time of spark so as still sparking to after top dead center timing. Negative late timing needed for water useage . The other capacitor discharge method is too fast for proper operation, which is why Georgia man used wire coils . The videos were done with direct connection method to plug, without any High volts safety precautions to battery. Induction method would have been better. Hear Briggs engine sound like water pump! Initial power from battery, idling mode amps + voltage from on board improved ring alternator. (Battery disconnected)
Thanks for sharing that here - a great topic!
An attempt to figure out what S1R9A9M9's circuit was is what led me to developing my plasma ignition method. If you look at his convoluted diagram he posted that hardly anyone could figure out - it is basically connecting the half rectified out put of an inverter over the spark plug gap - and it was a large appliance relay that made the right connections. When the hv spark is made, the lower voltage high current from that inverter jumps the gap and that is what his ignition is.
Everyone claimed the inverter was needed to make the effect and some tried with capacitors. Capacitors worked, but they also thought it had to be connected to the inverter still to get the effect. Because of John Bedini's old diagrams of the Gray motor with the reversed diode at the top of the HV rod, I instantly knew all those explanations were false and posted the first evidence ever showing the capacitor could be charged with a power source and be completely disconnected from the power source (free floating potential) and then applied to the ignition coil and it worked. So not only did it prove the connection to the inverter (ac power source) was irrelevant to the effect, it also proved that I could simultaneously use the same capacitor as the input power source to the primary of the ignition coil and also act as the low voltage source that would jump the gap after the hv spark was made.
I don't know what "other capacitor discharge method" you are talking about that is supposed to be "too fast for proper operation", but my own method is of course extremely fast - but the primary plasma discharge method is basically the same as what S1R was doing wit his circuit.
That plasma doesn't necessarily expand water, it instantly dissociates the hydrogen from oxygen so that is where the expansion comes from, then the hydrogen detonates very fast and very hot and that is what ignites the rest of the freed hydrogen and further dissociates more hydrogen from water, etc...
Revizal was the first to use this kind of plasma ignition to run an engine just on water after all these experiments and it was a small motorbike engine. It ran on tap water for maybe 20-30 seconds. But the plasma needs to be pretty big for that to the point it will destroy plugs fast and will explode and chip other pieces of metal it touches - most likely like the edges of valves, etc... So running an engine on water is not a problem if you have a big enough discharge but will simultaneously destroy your plug and engine. I would like to see that S1R engine torn apart and examined to see what the longer term situation is.
Here is an old "choking" method that I posted years ago from Ralph Bergstresser, a friend of Tesla:
It can extend the time that the spark is at the gap.
Do you have a pic or video of the Georgia man's methods?
