New video: Edward Mitchel
Started by unknown · · 117 posts · last reply 4 January 2016
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#101 · date not recorded
I'm sorry Ed but I don't get it???
Why are you so hell bent on claiming that you are 'The only one' who knows how Stans tech works, 'The only one' who has successfully replicated Stan's work and why is it that everyone else who has had success has only had it because of what you have done?
Do you think that by claiming on the forums and youtube and the internet that you were the first that somehow that gives you the sole rights to the technology? Or that somehow you deserve all the credit?
I can tell you right now that you'll get no credit, why? Because that's how the world works buddy. Once this tech is in the mainstream people aren't going to go searching through the internet forums trying to find out who claimed they did it first to make sure that person gets the credit/glory/money/fame/whatever.
There were people who did it before Stan. There are others now that have done it. It was done by the people who own Stan's estate like 5 years ago. I know someone who has had a working unit for over two years now. I also know of 3 others who right now have working replications. Your not 'The only one' nor have you ever been 'The only one', hell, you haven't even been the first.
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#102 · date not recorded
retrofit H2 system is only compatable with past and present tech , Im sure they are quite comfortable sacrificing the internal combustion engine itself in order to bring in the electric world...
from my point of view , everyone working on H2 tech have limited time line no matter what technique is used.
We should still keep in mind that Meyer's system was Over Unity, due to the Cold Fusion aspect - a process which happened inside his ICE. This aspect can't be duplicated by an electric motor, even with an electrolysis fed fuel cell. People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative. -
#103 ·
Interesting replies, but the primary question I asked was never answered.
Why on earth you, or anyone else, would resist this type of hands on approach is beyond me?
Do these look like claims to you?
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These are not mere claims as I have built these things and performed test in the real world and not just in my head. These people you speak of I don't know them and furthermore they are not in forums like these or did I miss something? As for this technology being over unity no, it's just that the science is new, but the energies can be added up using Albert Einstein's E=MC2. Massive is right in the we all should be working together but that is not what takes place in forums like these.
What is clear to me is that in this forum Black Lives "Don't" Matter for actions speak louder than words ever could. I was wronged in this forum as the actions taken against me are not just claims as they actually did happen. But I guess the question Adriank ask is basically why do I sit at the seat of judgement concerning this technology, am I correct in this line of thinking? The answer to this questions is easy, I did the work to get to where I am at concerning my understanding of the science of how this technology actually works. It wasn't solved in a day but took many years of hard work, time and money spent, while learning from each and every failure. These people that you speak of I simply don't know them so why don't you introduce me to them or show me their work here in this forum right now?! I am basing what I say on what I can see of the work of others and I tell you I don't know these people you are talking about and have never heard of or seen any of their work in this technology. Do I know these people and have failed to give them credit? I require hard proof of what you are telling me so that I may know of these others that you are claiming of right now. Until that happens my claim stands true as I don't know what I don't know as again I don't know of anyone else getting the results I am getting right now.
As for how history will judge me, who knows? More than likely they will treat me as they have always treated my people by pretending we don't exist. I notice these things when I look back on the history of my people and see the things they have done but never given credit for doing so. But, like most I can do nothing for how others chose to write about me or leave me totally out of their writings in the future. All I can do is keep driving on towards wherever this technology leads me and/or needs me. I can't changed the hearts of men who's forefathers have brought them up thinking it is right to treat my people the way they have been treating them from one generation to the next for hundreds of years now. All I can do is make sure I live according to my beliefs as I have no control over the hearts of others.
Take care everyone,
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#104 ·
People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative.
The electric world will be more restrictive than ever because of environmental laws . here in NZ they are phasing out open fire places , so people have to have heat pumps or GAS !
Once upon a time man discovered fire .......... one day in the not too distant future, man will do time for lighting one .
so , one day IC engine most definitely WILL be phased out and it will be out lawed
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#105 ·
WTF didn't even know you were black.
That's not even relevant here.
Is there anyone throwing racial slurrs at you? I've never seen such.
Your ridiculous dude, and you create your own enemies because for some reason that's what you want because it confirms your belief that the whole world is against you, so you must be right about Stan. In your mind it's not you that's the problem, it's everyone else. I've known too many of your types to continue this.
Back to the topic of EV's...
The electric motor will eventually take over because they are more efficient than any internal combustion engine.
All that heat that escapes through the tailpipe, all that heat that is removed via the cooling system, that's all lost energy.
Think about the frictional losses through the cylinders, crank shaft, and transmission and all the other moving parts and compare them to an electric motor which only has one moving part.
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#106 ·
Ed suffered racial injurement attack before he got banned few months ago, thats what he is talking about the fact of being hebrew... in my country this is subject of jail... here in the forum we dont have anyway to punish anyone but i´m sure it wont get to this point again too. Ed was baned because he talked about religion sequetialy while he was adverted to stop as this is a forum for technology and stanley meyer tech discussion.
I would kindly point how much waste of time reading thu lots of attacks and non scientific posts...
Please stop wasting your times, our space and alls patience....
We are here not to prove we have anything... nor to prove anyone is wrong .... we are here to share ideas and discuss them... with so much intolerance there will be no room for seeing whats good in each one idea... it all become a big crap ...
i acted in bad way in the past by imaturity for example i would not understand how water could be polarized with no current and i spent lot of energy discussing and discrediting others that were pointing this out,.. you see how much waste of time is to discuss a theory you dont really know when you really dont know all the science in the world?
i really lose the will of coming over here to see this fights over the boards and seeing that someone is being ignored or discredited in principle...
Ed may have a way of saying like if he had all done and right its his way of speaking, just that... i know because i mistakenly talked like this in the past...
If i could spend an advice on this it would be
believe what you need to believe but walk with your foots on the ground steps come one after the other
my two cents....
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#107 ·
EV will take over by design and investment control
steam trains are seen as dinosaurs yet nuclear power is a steam generator , no difference just alot more dangerous
EV will take away the level of freedom that a clattery ol IC engine has . moon shiners made their own fuel , on that basis , who cares about efficieny and heat loss ? free fuel = free efficiency = free heat loss
EV cannot equal that , imagine the control circuits , charging circuits etc , car electrical systems today are a night mare (gold mine for service maintainance)
the older the car the better
the history of Chrysler goes back to the electric car co , when EV out numbered IC cars in the late 1800s
over 100 yrs later the very same players are in control of the future.
not forgetting , there was also steam cars
curse electric cars , I grew up on mad max and battle truck , thats more my cuppa tea
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#108 ·
why didn't even know you were black.
That's not even relevant here.
Is there anyone throwing racial slurrs at you? I've never seen such.
Your ridiculous dude, and you create your own enemies because for some reason that's what you want because it confirms your belief that the whole world is against you, so you must be right about Stan. In your mind it's not you that's the problem, it's everyone else. I've known too many of your types to continue this.
Back to the topic of EV's...
The electric motor will eventually take over because they are more efficient than any internal combustion engine.
All that heat that escapes through the tailpipe, all that heat that is removed via the cooling system, that's all lost energy.
Think about the frictional losses through the cylinders, crank shaft, and transmission and all the other moving parts and compare them to an electric motor which only has one moving part.
You never took the time to actually watch the video this thread was made about? So, you just came in here to say what exactly? Couldn't be talking about the video as in your own words you never saw it. Well, in a not so round about way that is what you just said here, correct?
Give me a name of one of these people that says they are getting great results with this technology so that I may have the opportunity to compare notes with them. If not then what was the true purpose for your commenting at all on this thread of which you obviously know nothing about? TGS stands for True Green Solutions the company that is mentioned in the video.
I'd like to say thanks to Sebosfato for his account of what happened to me on this forum as it comes at a time when it truly is needed. Yes, I was attacked on this forum and got punished for being attacked instead of the guilty party(s) being punished like it should have been done. Then they want me to leave the bible out of it when Meyer himself ties it with this technology. They want me to keep talking about this technology so that they can have it without ever having to put in a dimes worth of R&D. Sebosfato I think I have been preaching to the wrong crowd as they don't like the hands on approach I have been taking and sharing and also requiring them to do. So, I will take this technology to those that actually want this technology. A place where it will be cherished and cared for and most of all wanted for the right reasons. In looking at the big picture the total members of this forum verses the world's population this forum means nothing and thus I can and will do better to find a crowd that does want this technology for the right reasons.
All this talk about EV's is also pointless as you have no idea what this technology is capable of nor do you understand what will be required to push the internal combustion engines off the road and replace them with something new. If a company can manage to produce and sell one million EV's a year how much time would it take them to replace over 3.2 billion cars with internal combustion engines in them? You see I have run similar numbers to these questions before and the numbers are for long term planning as it isn't going to be something that can be done in just a few years time. Plus you are asking for this to be done at a time when the US and other countries around the world are on the verge of bankruptcy facing a great depression that's going to make the depression of the 1930's look like a walk in the park. The people have no money as the system that has been set up to rob them of all of their wealth has done exactly that and is nearing the end of it's long term mission.
As for me I will be moving on to someplace where justice has meaning. A place where TGS can start actually putting this technology out to this world and it be accepted by the people there. Always remember this, "this technology is only limited to the inventors abilities to find a use for it." But in order to make use of it you must first get at the core science that drives it as without this understanding you really can't make much use of this technology. Here I have repeatedly heard people say they simply will not give TGS any type of support no matter what happens so with that being said I say best of luck to you all with your efforts towards solving this technology. Perhaps one of these other people that Adriank talks about will pay this site an visit and share what he/she knows and be a person of your likeness so that they will be acceptable to you as your rejection of me is dully noted. That question I ask and had never answered will always be with me as I simply don't understand your rejection of the approach I took towards solving this technology as it was completely hands on making use of the scientific method as a tool to make sure the job was done right.
See ya around maybe, good luck.
TGS -
#109 ·
I watched that video when it first came out. Very well built cells and Gunther's circuit is well engineered.
I'm not trying to hate just trying to point some things out. There might be a logical reason why people keep pushing you away and kicking you out of forums. If you want to be successful with Meyer's tech you can't just go around claiming sole ownership of it.
You get on these biblical high horses as if the great almighty granted you and only you the wisdom to unlock Meyer's secrets-Common man!
And yes I know 3 people who have successful replications that they can all repeat at any time. If they wanted their names to be known in the 'Meyer circle' they would be. Point is they simply have better things to do. But there is a fourth guy I do not know personally but just showed a working replication in front of 30 witnesses. You know him, Max Miller, I bet all that equipment he has you gave him, you made his cell, boards and tuned it for him right?
All I gotta say is if you think you can lead the pack with Meyer tech your wrong, no one can. If this tech ever got into the mainstream do you really think you can compete with corporations that can put millions of dollars into R&D? Corporations with real engineers and real scientists...
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#110 ·
hahahahahahahaha
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#111 ·
I watched that video when it first came out. Very well built cells and Gunther's circuit is well engineered.
I'm not trying to hate just trying to point some things out. There might be a logical reason why people keep pushing you away and kicking you out of forums. If you want to be successful with Meyer's tech you can't just go around claiming sole ownership of it.
You get on these biblical high horses as if the great almighty granted you and only you the wisdom to unlock Meyer's secrets-Common man!
And yes I know 3 people who have successful replications that they can all repeat at any time. If they wanted their names to be known in the 'Meyer circle' they would be. Point is they simply have better things to do. But there is a fourth guy I do not know personally but just showed a working replication in front of 30 witnesses. You know him, Max Miller, I bet all that equipment he has you gave him, you made his cell, boards and tuned it for him right?
All I gotta say is if you think you can lead the pack with Meyer tech your wrong, no one can. If this tech ever got into the mainstream do you really think you can compete with corporations that can put millions of dollars into R&D? Corporations with real engineers and real scientists...
Oh wait you can because you have the great almighty on your side, HA~!
Interesting point of view you have taken. Max and I use to work together. Did you know that I purchased his tickets to go to the 2013 Global BEM and other offered him free travel and room & board? While we were at the event Max went and stabbed us all in the back. Just before he had his event this past weekend we had a few words and in these talks I discovered that he doesn't understand how this technology actually works. At his event you will notice that he wouldn't do any timed temperature test or provide anyone with some MMW numbers so that his work could be evaluated properly by those that viewed it. Max and I broke it off once I saw that he was no longer listening to his experiments and forcing what he believed to be taking place on his experiments instead. Small world, huh? I am one of the few people that can actually tell he doesn't have the technology working correct. But like Russ, Max has learned how to put on a great show and the people that go to these shows don't ask him the hard questions. So, that's one crossed off of your list of people that claim to have this technology working correctly.
As for being chosen by the most high for this? All I know is I asked to be allowed to understand how this technology works and started to get a lot of strange dreams that lead me to understand how this technology actually works. Each time I would try and teach others what I had learned from these dreams I'd be shot down and rejected by practically all I would try and teach. So, it does make me wonder that my failure to be able to teach others is a sign that it just isn't meant for them to understand this technology. I don't know how all of this is going to play out but I do know that I have given up on trying to teach this technology and have moved on towards actually bringing it out instead as the numbers say I have been preaching to the wrong crowd as there is a whole world that needs this technology and someone is going to have to build it for them. When I posed the hard question to Open Source about how are those who can't build this technology for themselves supposed to be able to get this technology? The answer I was given let me know I was dealing with the wrong crowd as I was told "It sucks to be them." After this heart breaking reply to my question I started to break away from Open Source as they didn't stand for the same things I stood for. I only came back to this site due to a promise I made a long time ago. I fulfilled that promise, left the information up for a few months and then took it down due to the over whelming negativity I got from the members here. But I did live up to my promise. Now it's time for me to move on again as I wash my hands of these Open Source forums that have shown me nothing but greed, suffering, and ridicule.
As for the cell in the video it had to be replaced as it had flaws and errors in it's design and even it's replacement had to again be replaced for the very same reasons as I had to learn how to build the thing correctly by way of trial and error. Here are the other designs that lead up to the one I am using now.
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And this is my current design with all the bugs worked out of it and some improvements made to the original Meyer design that solved the problems I saw he was having with the unit.
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Again all of this was done by way of trial and error until I got it right enough to stop having the problems I was seeing. The one in the video actually would take 12kv or more to get it to work correctly. The other one didn't have enough resistance in the form of water between the plates, and this new on has been designed to take all of these problems and more out of the device.
On this site I did as promised. I posted the solution but it was openly rejected and once I saw it's rejection was total and/or complete I removed it. I now yield to the Blind Leaders as I choose to no longer fight them. I have a mission in front of me that I will be following to the best of my abilities to do so. Like those you talked about but never mentioned I too am not looking for fame or glory but truly looking to help the poor. Unlike them I gave hope to the idea that this technology would be accepted by the Open Source community but I stand here now knowing that I was wrong about that as the propaganda is just too strong and I simply wasn't able to break through it. I will do as my heart tells me but know that it too can not be fully trusted as after all it is only human. I will do my best to obey the most high YAH and follow his commandments to the best of my abilities to do so as that is what is required of man and especially from his people as I am of the seed of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and we made a covenant with the most high and are still bound by it. So, I bid you all farewell as I take on this next chapter of my life in service to the most high YAH the creator of all things.
Bye for now,
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#112 ·
Very nice cells you have. Honestly that's good work, I know how much time and effort and $ it takes to get one made...
You could be right about Max. That is a good point because one thing many people are missing here is proper scientific documentation and measurements.
Anyways I would advise you to cover up your cells and connections between them with a conductive metal shield. You might also want to use some coax cable for your connections. When you really get things working the exposure to the radiation released will make you sicker than a dog. Trust me. It only takes operating the cell unshielded for a few minutes to make you sick for hours.
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#113 ·
surely anyone looking at those cells has to admit , they are quality items
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#114 ·
surely anyone looking at those cells has to admit , they are quality items
I agree with you here.
Edward makes nice and beautifull components.
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#115 ·
Very nice cells you have. Honestly that's good work, I know how much time and effort and $ it takes to get one made...
You could be right about Max. That is a good point because one thing many people are missing here is proper scientific documentation and measurements.
Anyways I would advise you to cover up your cells and connections between them with a conductive metal shield. You might also want to use some coax cable for your connections. When you really get things working the exposure to the radiation released will make you sicker than a dog. Trust me. It only takes operating the cell unshielded for a few minutes to make you sick for hours.
I think it was artinvegas that said Stan was diagnosed Prostate cancer a few years before he died....Perhaps the radiation exposure over time had something to do with it? But for his age that's also not uncommon...
Well, 1 on 5 people will get cancer, is it?
So, he might just be unlucky.....
This with all well ment respect.
Its sad he is not with us anymore.
The world would might have looked a bit cleaner....
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#117 ·
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In this photo in order for us to compare notes you must hook up your differential probe to D&E shown in the photo as that is the point that shows you what voltage you are applying to the load which is the water fuel capacitor.
This way we can compare apples to apples. This connection point is most important as it tells you how much voltage you are placing on the plates of the exciter array. If the resonant cavities are built the same or close to the ones in Meyer's 11 resonant cavity cell then according to Meyer each resonant cavity must have 1kv or more in order to work correctly. So, for an 11 cell exciter array it will take 11kv or more at measurement points D&E to get the exciter array working correctly. For a cell with 10 resonant cavities it will take 10kv or more measured at points D&E to get the exciter array to work correctly. However there is a catch to this as the more resonant cavities you remover the higher the Voltage Intensifier circuit's resistance has to be to make up for the loss in resistance and at the same time the chokes must be larger to make up for the increase in capacitance. These are the trends that will allow you to correctly design your exciter arrays. Example if you make an exciter array with only 6 resonant cavities more than likely you will have to make use of some resistance wire as that is a lot of lost of resistance in the form of water going from 11 to 6 resonant cavities and the chokes will have to be very large to make up for the increase in capacitance.
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