TGS

Without a differential probe one can't view what this technology is doing on the secondary side as it is an isolated circuit and it must remain that way. If you give it a ground it will take it as it is actively searching for one. You all need to be taught how to read the waveform correctly as I can tell you have no idea what you are actually looking at.

The waveform is to be read by the near vertical lines as that is when it is applying a B+ and B- voltage potential to the plates of the exciter array. In the waveform I showed you I put in five pulses and if you count the near vertical lines you will see it has ten of them which is pulse doubling. The waveform isn't perfect as the B+ and B- voltages need to be as close to being equal as one can get them to be. The time for the near vertical lines has to be faster than the relaxation time for water as when it is the water sees it as being the same time. This is how you read the waveform correctly.

Meyer doesn't state that there needs to be a B+ and B- voltage just to be saying something he is telling us how the technology works to make use of voltage to break the bonds of the water molecules. This is how "The Electrical Polarization Process" works. This time as I re-post the learning information take the time to actually read the information being given to you before spouting off at the mouth with a bunch of nonsense.
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Here is a video that will teach you how a differential probe works:


Without this measuring device you simply can't view what this technology doing. You need to be able to get a differential reading of what is happening at the plates of the water fuel capacitor. In science we don't assume there is a negative voltage there we actually measure it with the proper tools for the job.

Using the Electrical Polarization Process to break the bonds of the water molecules is what we are trying to do in replicating Meyer's technology, correct? All of you running around telling people you don't need a negative voltage when Meyer himself clearly states we need an equal negative and positive voltage being applied to the plates of the water fuel capacitor are going against what Meyer teaches about this technology we are all trying to duplicate. You running around believing you don't need a differential probe to be able to view this technology isn't going to change the fact that you do need a differential probe to be able to view this technology.

All the other points you made will be ignored as you simply have no idea what you are talking about as you assume too much with no facts to back up what you are saying. You have no idea what my setup looks like right now as I stopped sharing that information since the 2013 Global BEM to those I don't know or trust. Since you don't have a differential probe you have no idea what the waveform actually looks like as you simply don't have the right tools to be able to view this technology.

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So my truth telling is considered verbal abuse huh? Interesting. It just goes to shows how far people actually are from the truth of this technology. As for following you around talk to Steve as he has the history behind why I returned to this forum and you will be surprised to find out it has nothing to do with you.

Everything I ever said about your version of this technology was true as with this technology you don't have a pot or a window to throw it out of. You don't have a WFC built to Meyer's standards, you don't have a differential probe, you don't have a properly built VIC transformer, need I go on? You have nothing but a bunch of untested ideas being compared to my actual experimental data with all the said components. These are the facts are they not? I have built all of these things and have been running experiments on them getting results that no one else is getting currently working on this technology. These results when explained sound just like Meyer's words on how this technology actually works from his descriptions... you know high voltage while restricting the flow of amps and the water bath not heating up over time and all of that.

I'd make real important breakthroughs that would help everyone get their set ups running like Meyer's words describes and you would treat them as nothing of importance telling everyone there was nothing to see here. But unknown to you some did give what I was showing a try and got the exact same results I was getting by getting high voltage while restricting the flow of amps into the mA range after they gave what I was showing everyone a try while ignoring you. You see what makes me different is I am running experiments that everyone can follow given they are willing to build this technology using the information given to us by Don Gable and get the necessary test equipment needed to be able to read and view this technology. My work can be followed and those that have followed it are getting the exact same results I am getting which in the world of science is known as second source verification. I do things by trial and error making use of the scientific method to solve problems and then try again and repeat until I get it right. Why on earth you, or anyone else, would resist this type of hands on approach is beyond me?

In a heated debate between one of Max's supporters I got them to admit that I am the only one, other than those that chose to follow my work, that is showing voltages this high being applied to the water fuel cell while restricting the flow of amps at the same time right now. Which shows there are some good people left in this world as normally when I ask questions like this people fall back on pride and ego and start making up stories that can never be verified. The "Blind Leaders" I talked about are much worse as they will not only start making up stories but will refuse to do any test that would allow someone to actually evaluate their work properly, IE, providing any MMW numbers or running timed temperature test showing there the water isn't being heated up while they push amps through the water as the voltages they are at are simply far below the threshold for ionization to take place. They make one claim after another but none can be verified or copied by others. They suffer from a need to be always be better than everyone else even if they are not provably. Most of the time they can not be saved as they have backed themselves into a corner with all of their lies from which they would have to swallow their puffed up pride and ego and that is something they are simply unwilling to do. In my last dealings with a Blind Leader and his followers they learned the power of reflection in that I'd ask them a question and they would in turn reflect that question back on me trying to make it sound as if I was fishing for information. But that type of fighting relies on someone not answering the questions so I simply answered the question they refused to answer. But then I realized that it works both ways as they didn't know the answer to the questions I was asking and figured out a way for me to give them the information that they needed so that they would be able to answer these questions in the future if asked. But I'm a lot smarter than that and only answered questions that can be easily read in the patents if one just takes the time to read through them to find the solutions to the questions I was asking. I didn't answer any questions that require one to learn from actually performing the experiments.

There is one thing that I do know that in time will hold to be true and that is the road I am on right now others will have to travel down these same paths that I have already been on as it's only a matter of time. I can say this as I understand the core science behind this technology and there are only a few ways to go about breaking the bonds of the water molecules like this. It's not ego or pride talking it's just what I have learned from trial and error with actual hands on experimentation making use of the scientific method as a tool to help guide my efforts.

Well, time to get back to work.
Good experimenting everyone take care,
TGS

How did Meyer's Injector achieve focus fusion without Mega Amps in the spark, to produce a magnetic Z-pinch?

I did make a response but felt it was too much information sharing so I  removed it. This question of yours has nothing to do with the information being shared in the interview video and ignores the fact that this technology works by way of IONIZATION which has already been proven to be true. As was said awhile back you don't get to ask questions as you are not a friend to the technology but one that is unknowingly or knowingly working for those that sell energy or working directly on their behalf out of ignorance. This time I guess the phase "it sucks to be you" applies as it's going to be used on you by me rather you like it or not. You don't get to ask me any questions as you burnt that bridge already.

It is pointless talking you to as you don't have an exciter array from which to work it nor do you have an injector from which to work with. You don't have an differential probe nor many other needed items to be able to observe this technology correctly. You don't even have a voltage intensifier circuit from which to work on as it seems your trying to solve Meyer's work with out duplicate a single thing Meyer used. No 8xa circuit, no anything dealing with Meyer's technology as given to us in the patents or from Don Gable's information sharing with all of us.

When I say the people of this forum it doesn't mean you do you understand? Again you burnt that bridge already.

TGS

Now this message goes out to all of the members on this forum. The time for asking me questions is coming to a close as I must get back to work soon. So, please watch the video and if you have any questions feel free to ask as now is the time to do so.

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Shalom everyone,
TGS

electrotek i think i understood your idea,, thanks you a lot i will give it a try... but if the resistors aren't exactly the same how do i manage to it? if i increase capacitance from one side it should get unbalanced,, ? do you think is possible to build with a single rail power supply?

if i undestood well the final resistance should be 1000 ohm ? for the opamp sensing side? in series with a 20Mohm ? so how the output of the opamp become 50ohm impedance?

I'll give you and example of why you have to buy the right equipment.

Say your running an experiment at college in your chemistry class and it needs to be within +/- 0.00005. You take your materials and run to the local market and use their scales which only have a dial on them. What will your instructor say once you tell him what you did and why?

Like I said this fundraiser is going to show you just who your friends truly are.

Shalom,
TGS

Edd i think anyone that work in this technology today has a spirit of help the next although a commom problem today to all is this financial crisis... many of us are already married and they have their life to carry on normaly one would not spend more than 50$ at a time...

i tried fundraising before as i told you and got even a little mad when i saw nobody of my real life friend helped... i understand their side however... the only time when this fundraising worked was at the energetic forum right at the start some few people, i have here their names yet... from this forum also helped...

but man i really would be loosing my energy and time if i was to get mad if the crew cannot help today...

when i started this technology i was playing in the subway in milan and use to few hours playing and singing inside the train and at the end of the month i spend it all on 555 timers, transistors, copper, electrodes... well in the first months i remember to have gone with 20000euro. i always got some luky with the money for the technology... many of the high top equipment i get like labview 8000$ was totally free.. my cell was made at the university machines so i only spent like 1000$ or little more only of materials for just it..

i worked with platinum, paladium, barium titanate... i build a lathe milling maschine... i did manythings and aways someone somehow help...   now i get my tools to build things... that summing with the ability i learned to build whatever i want makes me really happy.

if we sum at least 9 years expending +_ 10000 euros each.. than i expended more than would cost to buy a house here... luckly i have no great ambition... but i feel that with my way of thinking and capabilities developed i can do more than just make it work...

thats why i dont really care about having spend all... but is understandable that anyone living and paying their bills dont want or some times cannot take some money out without a strong reason...

as a retribution to who wants to donate me a nice help for buying the probe, or that could lend me a probe like that or bring me one... i would offer 1 month in my beach house here in brazil for how many friends you want to bring or family how about it?

i could just say help me and could be enough that when it work you will be welcome to come and see

i have very good contacts here in brazil, i worked with cinema and music, television here,  than  if we can prove this working i believe they can help somehow to get this technology to the world it would be no problem for me.

thank you all in advance

Sebosfato,

It's all about sacrifice as each and every person in these forums can go a day without a meal and give that money for that day to you. I have a family of six and yet I am willing to do my part to help you for I understand the meaning of sacrifice. So what if I have to go a day or two or even a week without eating big deal as this is for a good cause. Do you understand where I am coming from? All of us can do this without putting ourselves out too much but it comes down to choice and/or motive.

Remember what I told you. These forums are full of people that work for those that sell energy and their motive for being here is to keep this technology from coming out to the world as they will lose their livelihood. Just think of all the industries that are going to be put under when this technology goes mainstream. I am talking about any company that puts there power to the grid system and the grid system itself plus all of those that sell energy to power up the worlds moving machines. The only one that I can see that is sort of safe is solar but all of their solar farms will be gone as the take the energy they get from the sun and put it into a system of energy enslavement as that's just what the grid system is a system of energy enslavement.

They don't want you to get the right test equipment as you will start to see what I see and they can't have that. The need us all fighting tooth and nail so that nothing ever gets done and will tell you that, "Oh, you don't need to get the proper equipment just build your own." But they know you need precision to gain the scientific communities support and you are not going to get it with a home built item as you need the right tools for the job.

But like I said their fear is you will start to sound like me after you get the same tools I am using. And the more people that start sounding the same will show only one thing that this technology is in fact real and what we will be doing can be replicated by others. I already have others that have replicated what I am doing after they started listening to what I had to say and gave it a try in their labs. Trust me once you get this differential probe you will be able to see just what happens when the B+ and B- voltages are close to being equal plus a whole lot more. They can't have us working together like this for it spells the end of their way of life.

Like I said the best way to weed out friends from foes is to start a fundraiser as the foes will turn on you and withdraw all of their verbal support for you I know these things for it happened to me. Then you will find them starting counter threads to tell people you aren't telling the world the truth which is starting up a propaganda campaign against you. I've seen these things play out many times over since I started working on this technology back in 2006 and as such I have learned how this enemy operates as I've had to deal with them first hand.

Get a crowd fundraiser going as you have my support and if the people can see that I am willing to sacrifice for you given our past then just maybe they too will give you their support. Trust me when I tell you this those that are truly not your friends are going to turn on you but let them as they were truly never your friends in the first place. Like I said all it takes is for us to take a day without eating and give that money to you and I don't know a man or a woman alive that can't do that if they wanted too.

Shabbat Shalom,
TGS

i just tried but its only for american citizens,,, that link for donations is perfectly safe by the way it is the ebay in brazil its called mercado libre and the company thru where i receive money of things i sell on the ebay... like paypal... i have a paypal too but need to check since its a long time idont remember to use...

if you feel better with that..

i really hope that if those 300 guests looking the pages we are writting could give maybe 3 dollars i could have the ability to buy this http://www.globalmediapro.com/dp/A2JGB4/Pintek-DP-30K-Differential-Probe-30KV-50MHz/

it costs around 1500R$ of brazilian money there are also some taxes for transfering the money to them already in my bank... and when it arrives it get more taxes end up costing some where around 3000R$...

this would end up in dollars costing 1000$ dolars...

i have some very nice equipment i would be willing to exchange by one like that... i need to sell some things i have here... i have a all set for television broadcasting with many receivers antenas... each costed equivalengt to 3000 dollars i have like 20 of that.. but is very hard to find some company to buy it.. i´m trying

i got all this from my job i left it had no end so i took to my house to sell it and ishare with them50%

anyway its being hard...

i hope in this time of great crisis some good souls that have being blessed with material goods and cant wait more to see this thing happening and believe i can do it and believe that maybe with that special tool in my hands i can do it some faster i would really be very honestly honored to use it the best i can and compensate back every each of you who donated perhaps not with something material but imediately if you start to believe you will be filled with hope because i´m just working for a better world.

i have no ipad no iphone no ipod no inothing.. i have no bicicle, i have no car... all i got in the last 9 years was expended to this reseach... i dont even buy new cloths.. trully all i need is seeing this thing working

some people in the way helped me a lot, like my parents, brothers, friends, neighbours coleghes teachers,.. all of them are waiting too...

My thoughts exactly as there are 932 members in this forum and if we act collectively then we can do this with ease for you.

As of right now I am in the middle of a very large purchase and I can't touch my credit cards for about two or more months so we have to figure out a way that I could help you like pay pal or something. I'd like a crowdfunding platform as then I can share it with my friends and them their friends and so forth and we can all track your progress. Not many of us even have credit cards now days as they are just a drain on  real income and most of us have figured that out. Mines is just for company credit so that I can make purchases easier but pay it off quickly to avoid all the charges.

I looked a bit at these two are they good for you to use? "Catarse and Movere are now the main crowdfunding websites in Brazil."

If we work together we can get you this differential probe as it has a very high impedance which makes it very good for use with this technology.

Shalom,
TGS

i thank you for your good will i would love to be helped now!

 i tried to make a fundraising campaign on facebook... not even no dollar achieved... i would really promisse that anyone who wants to help in donating i will only use of course the money for that finality...

here it is the links...

i created a link that anyone could donate a fixed money monthly to help ...

https://www.mercadopago.com/mlb/debits/new?preapproval_plan_id=ce587e578d96409194fb6767032f4500

Can you make a gofundme account as I am not comfortable providing that amount of information about my credit cards in times like this as I have had my information stolen before several times now. You can create one for free and tell us all what it is about here and we will be able to follow your progress as who knows I might have to donate twice: https://www.gofundme.com/

Shalom,
TGS

I did answer your questions, but you ignored what I said.

It's hard to see a hero turn into an ogre.  Many times, I would have shut down my Ed Gray thread, but you kept me going, also wearing a bull eye on your back.  Or so I thought.  Now I see you differently.  : (

That's all folks.

You don't understand the science so talking with you is like talking with someone with diminished capacity.

I don't see any valid questions concerning the video or the technology so I guess my work here is done for the moment.
Nor do I see any answers to questions posed.
I'll check in from time to time but know this. Know already all what you need to know if you can understand the science I posted.

Thanks Steve but I can't post replies as I'd like too as a result.

Can you all read them as it shows up to me as just an Array.

Anyway, both Max and I have the system hooked up exactly the same and our wave forms are thus exactly the same despite outlawstc's inability to read the scope correctly. Think if it this way, if we both have everything hooked up the exact same way how could we have two different wave forms? Our wave forms are the same as the only difference is the load being placed on the VIC transformer. Plus outlawstc didn't bother to watch the video interview of my partner and I as that event is the "Global Breakthrough Energy Movement" that was held in Boulder, Colorado back in 2013 not the tesla tech. At that time Max and I were friends as I even offered to pay for the event for him and others offered him free room and board and were going to pick him up which is free travel but for some reason he didn't want to go.

This is the type of people I have had to deal with for a very long time concerning this technology people that can't reason to well and make things up as they go along. So again, how can we have two different wave forms if we have the entire setup hooked up exactly the same and are taking our measurements at the exact same spot? The only difference is the load that was being placed on the VIC transformer as I had mines hooked up to ten resonant cavities hooked up in series and he had his hooked up to two resonant cavities hooked up in series and the resonant cavities are the load being placed on the VIC transformer. After all this time you can't see that, really? We both have our setups hooked up exactly like this:
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So tell me again how can we have two different wave forms? This folks is part of the problem plaguing this technology as some of the people wanting to solve this technology just aren't up to the task at hand. From reading your post you have no idea how to answer that question as you just failed to do so right here in front of everyone for the record. I'd be willing to bet your not laughing now, huh? And for the record outside of myself Max is one of the people I am pinning my hopes on as well as Ronnie Walker and his crew in case something happens to me. I've given up on Russ as his heart just doesn't seem to be in it. Moving on now as I have had enough of this Tom Foolery.

This technology at it's surface seems simple but as you dig into it you find out quickly that you have to take Meyer's words and translate them into a scientific meaning. I don't believe this was done out of stupidity on Meyer's part but as a way to hide the technology in plain sight as after all he was also a business man and who wants everybody stealing your ideas. So, with that in mind I set out to get at the core science that drives this technology and I found it after several years of research. Water molecules can be broken down by taking the electrons away from the atoms that make it up, that is the core science behind this technology and Meyer used a strong ionization field to do so. This is also how plants break the bonds of the water molecules as they take away it's electrons. Now the method that these two different technologies use to accomplish this is different but the core science remains the same. So, any method that can get the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules will work towards breaking the bonds of the water molecules. Meyer chose a method that didn't require much energy input which was creating a high voltage potential energy differential field as shown here:

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But again may I remind all of you this isn't what the actual wave form looks like as this shows an impossible situation but legally it can be used as it is just a block diagram. This wave form is from outlawstc which shows how the wave form actually looks like as again the drawing figure 10-5 shows an impossible situation:

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But the drawing shows Meyer placed a ionizing field on the water molecules which causes the atoms that make up the water molecules to start ejecting their electrons and again the core science remains the same. To get the highest level of amp restriction the B+ must be equal but of opposite voltage to the B- voltage. This is not an easy task to do but I have managed to get mines to within 100 volts of each other and sometimes only 20 volts but that doesn't get used as it falls in the error of the reading devices I use. The lowest current flow through the exciter array was measured at only 0.7 mA at 9kv potential difference measured across the exciter array.

I agree no one should be ignored.  Anyone might have some little thing which is important.  It is the off topic which should be ignored.  More so if off topic is to distract or misdirect or clutter.  Off topic is ignore in reverse.  Some say too much "ignore yours, here is mine".  Even copy long messages from their own thread, instead of giving a simple link, with only a short discussion.  Which may still be off topic to the other's thread.  This should be ignored.

I don't understand this post. Do you or do you not want this technology and just who is being ignored?

I was telling you about magnetic field since long time ago look at a recent patent. http://www.google.com/patents/WO2015125981A1?cl=en

How about a little help, I need to switch a capacitor voltage like this while having an ac line passing nearby how would I go about it with the electronics??? The maximum voltages are irrelvant I just want to switch their voltages like this they don't have to be equal.

Not sure if you are talking to me or not as I don't remember talking to you, but in Meyer's technology that is what the blocking diode is for as it will switch on and off just as you drew up. As for finding something to switch like that I can't be of help to you there, okay?

As far as the maximum voltage being irrelevant and the B+ and B- voltages not needing to be equal you are wrong about that as this technology will require a different type of ratio being that we will be needing a voltage per amount of water breakdown ratio as that is how this technology works. This is letting voltage do the work just at I stated in the 2013 Global BEM video for ionization is the key to breaking the bonds of the water molecules with this method of water decomposition.

Best of luck to you on finding something to switch your high voltages.

TGS

Quote from: X-Blade on January 17, 2016, 13:59:05 pm

sabosfato, 200w with tiny bubbles is far below from Faraday electrolysis.

I´m looking for start a reaction that if started theoretically will generate endless amounts of gas... i´m nor really worried now about efficiency... i´m looking for breaking the molecule!

more specifically turning off the covallent force of the molecules in bulk

i was cosidering if i had some sort of laser superimposed on the electrical polarization process could be just enough for doing that...  thats because a laser is able to do a fast transistion for the oxygen orbital electrons in the way my theory requires..

if i was able to i would already input killowatts of power... to see what comes

the problem is that is already very hard to get this levels of rms power..

the sound of the transformer is really loud

With your setup if you balance the B+ and B- voltages you will get a very high voltage being applied to your exciter array but it will not be the same way Meyer did it. They must be kept within 20 volts of each other at all times, its a been there done that sort of thing. You really need to increase your primary turn count twenty times or more from what you are using right now.
Your transformer is going to get really hot so placing it in a cool oil bath will help you out a lot; http://www.electrical4u.com/transformer-insulating-oil-and-types-of-transformer-oil/ When I had my setup like yours it would actually start to boil the oil so keep an eye on the temps so you don't burn through the wires insulation.

And just so you know with your set up your going to need to reach 11kv before you reach the threshold for ionization. So don't listen at all to those like X-Blade as they have no idea how this technology actually works still thinking it has something to do with Faraday style electrolysis.

Jealous people is really what this is all about isn't it?  Those who are jealous of your success, who wish to be in your place and who wish that you lose the things that you have in order to be better than you is what I hear coming from all of these negative comments from you people. I showed a waveform getting 8.8kv to measurement points D&E and this success has turned out to too good for people to accept and caused them to become jealous of me.

A jealous person won’t come and tell you that he\she is jealous of you nor will they say it directly to one of their friends but instead their jealousy will appear in the form of hatred, resentment and gossiping.

Not to hurt their Egos jealous people will never say it directly but the envy they have towards you will spill out of their mouths in the form of non constructive criticism, rude treatment or disrespect for you. These actions I see in practically all of you.

I am not about to apologize for my successes as I know I put in the work in order to be successful with this technology. A long time ago I use to believe in open source and would share what I learned very openly. But after many would claim they came up with the ideas I would share less and less. Now I have totally given up on open source as all I see is competition which leads to jealousy which leads to resentment when some shows results that they themselves can't do. These people will then resort to lying to make themselves look better than those who's work they have become jealous of. In the spirit of competition they want to be first and if they have too lie, cheat, and steal to get there that's fine by them as it's only a means to an end that puts them on top.

I left open source as it's underlining mission clashes with my company's goals. As they consistently show a non-caring attitude towards their fellow man. Never do they see the big picture nor do they realize who's side they are on as they typically can't see past their own noses and/or self interest. They will reflect what they are onto others as it is a form of mental illness they have.

Now I have ask Steve to delete this thread as it only goes to show just how much open source has truly failed as it's mission has been hijacked thus it is a complete and otter failure towards it's original goals.

TGS because you got this waveform dont mean you achieved that.

This post doesn't make any sense. Are you saying I posted a lie? All I did was share the results I am getting you all are the ones that took offense to it. I have plenty of eye witnesses of me putting a high voltage to the load at points D&E to include Moray King, Russ Gries, and a whole lot more. Sorry I didn't reach the ionization threshold back then but I still needed to figure a few things out in order to achieve the needed voltage to bring about the ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules.

Just to be honest with you all that waveform has problems that I had to figure out and figure them out I did. Now it looks nice and smooth right from the start. Will I post such results? Not at a site that is totally hostile towards TGS attempting to bring the technology to the market place. Practically all of you here on this site are enemies to me and my company and could truly care less if the company swims or sinks. Most of you simply can't see the big picture as your minds are only about your own self interest. Take the KWS guy for example he makes post to show what exactly? From my standpoint I have no idea as he simply doesn't make any sense to me.

KWS makes a post as if there is a panel of judges out there that will determine who out there is worthy of this technology or not. To this individual it matters not all of the hard work I put into figuring out this technology as in his view I simply didn't earn it. Now when look up examples of people that do things by putting in the work required to get the job done they deserve it, but not to this enemy of the technology as he is stuck in La la land.


But more importantly what does it matter when it comes to just who will attempt to bring this technology to the market place? Do you want the world to have this technology or not!? Like I said there are only two sides to be on one is on the side of those that sell us energy enslavement and the other is those that sell us stuff so we can gain our energy independence. Sorry it had to be me but know that I put it in the work required to figure this technology out and trust me I failed many times along the way. But I wasn't afraid to fail and kept spending my money to improve upon the results I was getting. Like Russ I too have quite a large bone yard of failures but that is what it takes to get this technology up and working and yes I earned it the hard way by putting in the work by way of trial and error making use of the scientific and engineering methods. As it truly is just as Meyer said, the inventor has to be a loner and somewhat thick skinned as no one is willing to help but all so ready to hinder ones efforts to bring about a technology such as this as not many of you will show support of any kind just as Meyer said you would be doing. The responses I have gotten on this and many other sites is total proof that Meyer's words were words of wisdom and truth. The examples of his words being true are all around me just take an honest look in the mirror and look at all of your actions towards someone doing his best to bring this technology to the market place with nothing but ill wishes of failure and saying that I don't deserve it as it shouldn't be a person like me when you have no idea what type of a person I am other than the fact that I am a black Hebrew Israelite. That bible quote Meyer used comes from a book of the history of my people, yeah that's right my people are direct bloodline descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob and from where I stand many of you have a big problem with that.

Sorrry....not sorry to burst your bubble but these guys only beat you to it by 16 years.
http://www.wasserauto.de/html/stanley_meyer.html

And you would be yet another enemy of the technology to add to the list? Where to you people come from? What True Green Solutions is doing right now is trying to bring this technology to the people that need it most. The technology was not easy to gain enough understanding of to be able to duplicate it as you are well aware of. But since you like to go back 16 years let me see a single product that they have on the market for the people to buy. Just one company that is doing right by the people at trying to bring this technology to the market so that they can have access to it, can you show me one? I know of one but only one that is attempting to step up to the plate and build this technology for the many that simply can not build it for themselves even with a complete set up plans in their hands.

Who are these people that simply could not build this technology for themselves? Your mother, grandmother & grandfather, sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles, cousins, friends, and billions of people whom you don't know. How are they to be able to get access to this technology unless someone steps up to the plate and builds it for them in a manor that the technology is completely safe for use? The arrogance of you people is simply astounding at times along with your stupidity but I guess they come hand in hand. Why are you so adamant at preventing this technology from coming out? Just who's payroll are you on, the oil companies, the coal companies, you tell me? As one thing is clear and that is you are not willing to support True Green Solutions mission to bring this technology out to this world so that automatically puts you on the side of those that don't want this technology to see the light of day as there are only two sides from which to be on. True Green Solutions with it's mission of "Ushering in the science of freedom" has many enemies and you are just one more to add to the list as a true supporter of the current system of energy enslavement. You see there are only two sides from which to be on and by default you have sided on the side of the energy sellers but are too ignorant to know it. You wish for the company to fold or will do anything in your power to make the company go belly up which is exactly what the energy sellers need on their side which is a free non-paid worker for them to keep the status quo.

But you don't see this larger picture as you are not so bright in the mind as to be able to see things like this. As here you are talking crap to a business owner who's primary mission is to bring this technology out to the masses. A mission to provide to the people a quality product that is safe for use that will give them energy independence and you are dead set against the company and it's mission to the point of taking action to prevent the company from completing it's mission. So, again, just who's payroll are you actually on?

http://www.truegreensolutions.net/ Doing what it can to bring this technology to the people.

8XA IS NOT RESONANT CIRCUIT!

This was the first patents from Stanley Meyer before the resonant system.

Dont try to achieve resonance with this because you will get frustrated.

This shows the true difference from all of you and me as I learned something for I got resonance with the 8xa circuit but more than that I made sense of the words by way of experimentation using the scientific method which is something none of you ever try and make use of.

Like any tool it is only as good as the person making use of it and since it is clear to me that most if not all of you never bothered to even pick up the tool known as the scientific method you've been totally stuck in trying to figure out this technology. You all get mad at me for showing an understanding of this technology but never take the time to attempt to understand anything that I say. I can't even count just how many times I have pointed everyone in the right direction to only be told to go away as we don't want what it is you are showing us. I have spoken of the New Zealand video many times in the past and even took the time to post the video for you all to look over.

The 8xa circuit is of Meyer's early work and from there one can gain an understanding of this technology. Did you know that you can re-wire it to be just like a VIC transformer? Nope because you are too busy running your mouths and typing away on your keyboards to ever get to performing any real world experiments. Your all so afraid of failing that you never start doing anything. Or you are so strapped for cash that you can't afford to build anything. Either way if you don't get some experiments under your belt you will never learn anything. This is the primary reason why when I speak of how this technology actually works you have no idea what I am talking about for you have no practical experience with this technology as you are just working with theories in the mind.

The voltage intensifier circuit was the hardest part of this technology to figure out and I went through more than 20 transformers before I got the hang of it and was able to start seeing just what it is actually doing. I have a lot of experience in building these transformers now having made and tested all types of different cores. I made VIC's with I, C, E, and the donut cores, wired these things up all types of ways. But I took notes as using the scientific method requires the use of a laboratory note book. I learned by doing as sitting on one's behind doesn't give any real world experiences with this technology only hands on boots on the ground work does.

Example, in the photo I just posted of the 8xa circuit you will see the words, "Increased coil length equally increases applied voltage level/amp restriction since induction/capacitance increases proportionally." Did any of you give these words a try and observe the results? More than likely the answer is no, right? as you are too cheap to build more than one coil size and test it in a manor that would give you a chance to see what these words are talking about. So to all of you these are just words that have no real meaning but for me I learned the meaning behind the words as there was a lesson to be learn here. The 8xa circuit is an easy circuit to make but it's old Meyer tech and since it has no dollar value you can make right now you don't waste your time with it. I took the time to learn this technology from the ground up through the foot steps of Meyer as he learned this technology. Sure I had to spend some money on something I could never sell but the lessons that needed to be learned from this sure was worth it. I think I made and tested at least 10 different size choke coils and from this I learned. When I felt I was ready to move back to the voltage intensifier circuits I did so and made all the progress I have shown you in figuring out how to get the high voltage to the load and not have it be trapped at the secondary coil. So when you see me post waveform shots like this know it took a long time to figure out how to get the high voltage to the load.
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/personalpics009_zpscf31888c.jpg)
As these results didn't come easy as it took a lot of hard work dealing with older Meyer technology to be able to get this far. But the Nay Sayers told you these results are a dime a dozen but I have yet to see a single person show results like this. Then I get the question, "where is the gas production?" and when I answer it to the best of my abilities to do so the answer I give is rejected. But now it seems common knowledge that you need 1kv or more per resonant cavity to get this technology up and running correctly, hum... I wonder where that came from?

I have come to the conclusion that what you all really want is for someone to help you start a business with this technology. I just observe all of the competition going on and came to this conclusion. You aren't wiling to work for it and some have even rejected it when it was freely given to them.

This year is going to prove interesting as I have a lot planned for this year and if all works as planned it will be a year to remember.