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Stan’s Legacy

haithar

154 posts · 22 more in threads this archive does not carry · writing between Jul 2008 and Aug 2012

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Steorn Orbo

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It's most likely a scam juding from past inventors and companies. I thought about how they could have cheated on the overunity test. the oscilloscope shows the energy as I² * R. They could have chosen a larger R than in reality and make it look like overunity. As i said i'm interested in testing from independent people.

Steorn Orbo

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So now i watched their overunity videos.
Apparently they measured current over time and compared energy in and energy out with energy out being 3.xx times larger than energy in, depending on the position of the pickup coil.
Is anyone going to buy the developer license? If their claim is true after all the 419€ are nothing compared to the change it can bring, but because of the type of this technology one cannot be 100% sure. I'm hoping for some bloggers to visit them and take their own measurements over the next two weeks, then I'll decide.

Who would need a complicated Stan Meyer system if it was so easy like they claim..
I'm sure some of you will have heard about Frank Znidarsic.
Some guy on Youtube spent countless hours to compile it into several video parts,
if you are interested in that and are able to do high school math then this is well worth the time:
[youtube]HLgAzgnR18U[/youtube]
I have only linked the first part, currently there are 12 parts and a new one is added everyday until the series is complete.
Steve,

How did your last build go with regard to getting to self sustaining?

The German video appeared to be straight up electrolysis so it would not be likely that they could get to a self sustaining state. If best case real world is 50KW/H2 Kg, and Faraday was 33KW/H2 Kg, and 1 Kg of H2 has 12-19 KW of power value in it, they would appear to be a good ways away from anything close to self sustaining?

No, i was not able to run a selfsustaining system with hho and drycells and ionizers.
That is simply not possible. An engine is like 30% efficient. My drycells are around 120% faraday efficient. Much more then the anton cells, btw.

The germans have been tricking us all.
And i think i know how.
To be honest, their result is not bad. However, theY didnt tell you what was in the bublers.....

Steve

Even if they had a carbon-based but transparent water-like liquid in their bubblers, that whole process would still be pretty efficient, wouldn't it? How much of this liquid could get into the engine per minute? Probably not much.
The video format is .flv
It should work if you append the file extension onto the name.

They don't claim to produce hydrogen with an efficiency of >1, although the ANTON cell is more efficient than available Dry cells. See measurement videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrEntelecheia/videos According to the forum entries they were just as surprised as anyone else that the motor ran in a closed loop. Btw i have all the parts they used in that video (except the generator) and if i finally have some time i'll try to check how much of "HHO" gas i need to run something like this.

btw Steve can you answer my PM? I have lost the account information of my main account.

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If best case real world is 50KW/H2 Kg, and Faraday was 33KW/H2 Kg, and 1 Kg of H2 has 12-19 KW of power value in it, they would appear to be a good ways away from anything close to self sustaining?
The units of this literally don't make sense.

Dear Haithar,

I have answerd yr pm today.

Steve

thanks, i got my account back.

Steve,

How did your last build go with regard to getting to self sustaining?

The German video appeared to be straight up electrolysis so it would not be likely that they could get to a self sustaining state. If best case real world is 50KW/H2 Kg, and Faraday was 33KW/H2 Kg, and 1 Kg of H2 has 12-19 KW of power value in it, they would appear to be a good ways away from anything close to self sustaining?

No, i was not able to run a selfsustaining system with hho and drycells and ionizers.
That is simply not possible. An engine is like 30% efficient. My drycells are around 120% faraday efficient. Much more then the anton cells, btw.

The germans have been tricking us all.
And i think i know how.
To be honest, their result is not bad. However, theY didnt tell you what was in the bublers.....

Steve
I'm really not sure since they have been running a rather large block heat and power plant with a few combined dry cells: Not saying that is special energy-wise, but it shows that you don't need unbelievably huge amounts of gas to run motors.

spark timing for implosion?

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I think he's right, it would be steam, because it releases energy, exothermic reaction, it would only turn to water if you removed this heat... but when you heat things they expand, so it would go counter to your implosion suction... I don't understand the german in the videos.


Anyway, test the theory and see if you could make something like that work
I do agree that the exothermic energy released will most likely heat the created water-molecules so much that they will (probably) convert to steam.
One would have to calculate to get the temperature and state of matter the water/steam is in, this is important to know the density of the created steam. On the other hand it's possible that the enthalpy of the gas is given off to the outside and the steam is quickly converted into water again.


The video shows the following: A HHO generator is plugged into the top connection of the reactor chamber, the bottom connection is connected to the water reservoir seen. there are two valves above and beneath the reactor which can be closed and opened.
The reactor has a cable which creates a spark to ignite the HHO mix.


In the first video they ignite the HHO (top valve is open) and see what happens: The water is is sucked into the reaction chamber, the result of underpressure in the chamber after the reaction. They try different versions with valves closed, open, ... In the third video they test different hose diameters and watch how long it takes for the water to go into the reaction chamber.

spark timing for implosion?

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how would you explain the experiments in the videos then?




also where do you have the 6% from? i'm interested in that, because i may be running some motor tests in the not so far future.

spark timing for implosion?

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The question is: is the energy liberated through implosion stronger than the heat generated with combustion, which could expand a second gas (air) and move a piston like it usually happens with petrol.
Or could both effects be used together for a higher efficiency..

spark timing for implosion?

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Hi,
i ask myself why the  spark timing is adjusted to create a spark at the top center position.
We know that if water is converted to H2 and O2 the volume of the gas is in the 1:1600 range. That means when the gas is burned and converts back to water it implodes, because the volume of 1600 is converted to water with volume 1.
Wouldn't the spark be best timed at the bottom center position and the resulting vacuum will pull the piston up?


Experiments regarding the implosion of HHO:
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As you can see when the reaction of the gas occurs water is sucked into the reactor chamber by a vacuum. I hope you can understand what he is doing, he is explaining everything, but in german.






This is assuming that no air is mixed with the gas obviously, which would counter the implosion effect by expansion of the heated air.