Atomic Hydrogen Furnace
Started by Aaron Murakami · · 12 posts · last reply 4 October 2016
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The Atomic Hydrogen Furnace is a concept described by William Lyne in his book: Occult Ether Physics
It is based on Irving Langmuir's discovery of atomic hydrogen and his atomic hydrogen torch, which was apparently able to produce way more heat than the energy it took to run it.
William Lyne's concept of the atomic hydrogen furnace had a hydrogen supply from a tank but as he shows, it could very well be an electrolysis cell to create atomic hydrogen from from water.
To understand this concept, please get a copy of William Lyne's book here: Occult Ether Physics
"Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's "Ideal Flying Machine" and the Conspiracy to Conceal It, 4th revised and expanded edition, 2012 (including updates on Lyne Atomic Hydrogen Furnace). Lyne invented the Lyne Atomic Hydrogen Furnace in 1964, published plans in Occult Ether Physics in 1997. This invention has resulted in the so-called "Rossi-Focardi LENR Device" (based on his invention)."
Hopefully, this will get the conversation going so that we can create an open source project where we can see successful replications of this very important technology. -
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I've read it. Fascinating stuff. Super simple to build too.
Probably not super safe unless you know what you are doing. That's probably why he suggests sticking with Hydrogen instead of using Helium which he describes as being much more powerful. Too powerful to be safe.
I would be willing to contribute to an open source project in whatever way I can. -
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Hi Aaron,
Thanks for the information..very good indeed!
Just about the Irving Langmuir...... i'm keen to know the Plasma -chemical Interaction of H Atoms under Electric Field exciation by ways of different types of it Plasmas viz. Spark-Discharge, Arc-Discharge, Low Pressure Glow-Discharge, or even the High-frequency Induction electric discharge(electrodeless) through a bulk of Hydrogen gas. when i read on the method used originally by Langmuir...the excitor power supply is a Quasi-Arc Discharge Plasma... as the out put transformer has a open circuit Voltage of 350V or so... and the other pecularity is that the dissociated H-Atoms (in their Plasma state.Ionized) under go Combustion with the ambient oxygen Gas to result into a Co-sustained Oxy-Hydrogen flame.. the role of the associated excitor electrodes is also vital as they are made up of Tungsten metal
which cause occulsion of Hydrogen molecule along with it electrical Polarization. i'm sure Stan might have been inspired to work on his Hydrogen Gas gun based on the similar concept.
As far as i have read on the Atomic Hydrogen welding equipment...they use 'cracking of ammonia' to obtain the Hydrogen Gas..
rgds
Faraday88. -
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MIT's Plasmatron is based on Rabinovich's work. Air/Gasoline or Diesel enter and are ionized by a corona discharge - that freed up hydrogen is fed to the intake and there have been increases up to 30% in efficiency. Just a HV corona discharge by whatever technical term. But in Russia, Rabinovich's original patents on this were using WATER as the source for the hydrogen. I'll start a new thread on the Plasmatron.
I'm just bringing this up as an example of HV breakdown of hydrogen - not saying it will give the same result as the plasma arc.
The tungsten is a catalyst - it won't add to or take away from the chemistry. When the tungsten is hot enough, hydrogen can be instantly cracked from the ammonia - related to a benefit of having a tungsten plasma plug for Stan Meyer water fuel applications.
Anyway, there doesn't seem to be many people who have tried to replicate this furnace - just saw one or two vids on youtube.
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When nitrogen at low pressure was introduced into a
bulb containing a tungsten filament at extremely h
igh
temperatures, such as 2800
K., the nitrogen disappeared at a rate which was in
dependent of its pressure.
This suggested that the reaction velocity was limit
ed by the rate at which the tungsten evaporated fro
m the
filament. To check this hypothesis the rate of loss
of weight of filaments at various temperatures was
measured in good vacuum. This rate varied with the
temperature in accordance with known thermodynamic
laws, and it was concluded that the loss of weight
was really due to evaporation and not to chemical a
ction of
residual gases or to electric currents that passed
from the filament to the surrounding space.
A comparison of the rate of disappearance of nitrog
en with the loss of weight in the filament showed t
hat one
molecule of nitrogen disappeared for every atom of
tungsten that evaporated. A brown compound, WN
2
, was
formed which deposited on the bulb and decomposed w
hen water vapor was introduced, forming ammonia
gas.
From time to time the question kept arising-how goo
d would a lamp be if it had a perfect vacuum? And n
ow,
from his studies, he began to have an answer. Hydro
gen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon monoxide, and in fact
every gas that he introduced, with the exception of
water vapor, did not produce blackening of the lam
p bulb.
The serious blackening that occurred with only smal
l amounts of water vapor depended upon a cyclic
reaction in which atomic hydrogen played an essenti
al part. The water vapor of molecules in contact
with the
hot filament produced a volatile oxide of tungsten
and the hydrogen was liberated in atomic form. The
volatile oxide deposited on the bulb where it was r
educed to the metallic state by the atomic hydrogen
, while
the water vapor produced returned to the filament a
nd caused the action to be repeated indefinitely. T
hus, a
minute quantity of water vapor may cause a relative
ly enormous amount of tungsten to be carried to the
bulb."
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I do believe that this kind of concept have a great fascination about atomic hydrogen. Unfortunately, this kind of process is not really good or it would not be safe to use other wise try to have some good equipment in order you to make a good process of it. -
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I think H2 dissociation / ionization a very promising technology, the giza power plant lecture on youtube shows evidence that the pyramids might have used this effect by using microwave frequency wave guides and reflectors acting on hydrogen gas produced by simple chemical reaction, how the power was used is speculation, but there are analogous design features to wardenclyffe, the fact it was on an aquifer was one, and the use of conductors and dielectrics - granite and limestone.
the jln labs version really interested me, i wonder how hard it would be to scale up. -
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William Lyne will be speaking at the conference!
It will be a rare opportunity to spend some time with this legend. He is the author of multiple books including Occult Ether Physics and is well known for his work with his Lyne Atomic Hydrogen Furnace.
In several interviews, Eric Dollard has said many of the aetheric concepts that William Lyne shares are valid - much is rooted in the works of JJ Thompson and Tesla. This is a presentation you'll want to see!
You can find his full bio and talk description here: 2014 Energy Science Conference -
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Hello,Aaron Murakami wrote:
The Atomic Hydrogen Furnace is a concept described by William Lyne in his book: Occult Ether Physics
It is based on Irving Langmuir's discovery of atomic hydrogen and his atomic hydrogen torch, which was apparently able to produce way more heat than the energy it took to run it.
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Hopefully, this will get the conversation going so that we can create an open source project where we can see successful replications of this very important technology.
This might help the discussion from the original concept patented by Langmuir.
Enjoy
Dwane -
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will read it. interesting -
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I dont know will be the effect of this book.. but yes, you should go through once.. its awesome -
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I've read it. Fascinating stuff. Super simple to build too.
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