DESOLDERING. Vapourizing lead? Learn from my mistake.
Started by thedude · · 15 posts · last reply 22 March 2012
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#2 ·
Great tale of caution!
If you have sinus issues, I would suggest the use of a neti pot, instead of snorting saline solution. Same thing, however one is a daily yogic practice which cleanses, and the other is a bit more brutal. They both have the same effectiveness in removing mucus, however the later method causes increased inflammatory reaction, which is detrimental to what you are trying to do! -
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Also useful is to have a portable ultrasonic nebulizer they have become pretty cheap lately (26$ on ebay). This will allow you to get any sort of health substance directly into your lungs more easily. In your case you might also take a look at colloidal silver for your lung infection. And from here on I would suggest you OD on the heavy metals chelating agents you posted. And perhaps you should look into some sort of test or blood analysis that measures the heavy metal content in your body so you have a reference point for a later test after the therapy. -
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I will do. Thanks Armagdn03.Armagdn03 wrote:
Great tale of caution!
If you have sinus issues, I would suggest the use of a neti pot, instead of snorting saline solution. Same thing, however one is a daily yogic practice which cleanses, and the other is a bit more brutal. They both have the same effectiveness in removing mucus, however the later method causes increased inflammatory reaction, which is detrimental to what you are trying to do!
I found this additional information on the use of Neti Pot solutions used for nasal irrigation
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While nasal irrigation can be carried out using ordinary tap water, this is NOT safe (See Warning) and additionally can be uncomfortable because it irritates the mucous membranes. Therefore an isotonic or hypertonic salt water solution is normally used, i.e. water with enough salt to match the tonicity of the body cells and blood. For the same reason, lukewarm water is preferred over cold water, which in addition to irritating nasal membranes can also exaggerate the gag reflex during irrigation. Use of distilled, sterile or previously boiled and cooled water over ordinary tap water is advised. Tap water safe for drinking is not necessarily safe for nasal irrigation due to risk of rare but fatal brain infection. A small amount of baking soda is sometimes employed as a buffering agent to adjust the pH of the irrigating solution to that of the body.
Many pharmacies stock pre-manufactured sachets of pharmaceutical grade salt and baking soda designed to be used with the volume of water their corresponding device uses. Sometimes manufactured solutions such as a lactated Ringer's solution is used.
Optional additives include xylitol which is claimed to draw water into the sinus regions and helps displace bacteria.[33] Xylitol is commonly used to prevent acute otitis media in Europe and dental caries in the United States,[34] but research into xylitol use in the sinus cavities is lacking. Another nasal irrigation additive is aloe extract, which helps to prevent nasal dryness.[citation needed] Sodium citrate and citric acid help not only to balance the pH, also helps to improve the sense of smell.[citation needed] As noted above, in December 2011, the Louisiana state health department reported 2 deaths from Naegleria fowleri in which the use of contaminated tap water for nasal irrigation was strongly implicated.
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Interesting. Had not even heard of a ultrasonic nebulizer. Thanks for that suggestion broli.broli wrote:
Also useful is to have a portable ultrasonic nebulizer they have become pretty cheap lately (26$ on ebay). This will allow you to get any sort of health substance directly into your lungs more easily. In your case you might also take a look at colloidal silver for your lung infection. And from here on I would suggest you OD on the heavy metals chelating agents you posted. And perhaps you should look into some sort of test or blood analysis that measures the heavy metal content in your body so you have a reference point for a later test after the therapy.
I've been wanting to make my own colloidal silver for some time now and I'm going to get moving on that project now. Another product that i meant to mention that i'm currently taking for cleansing, is called UMAC-Core Marine phytoplankton (chlorella, spirulina,blue-green,red) contains several different species. I agree that my job is just beginning with regard to treating the toxicity i've allowed into my body.
Thank you both for your input.
I appreciate it very much.
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Good info on the lead! I dont do a lot of desoldering like this but it gave me a simple idea. A small shop vac with water in it as well as the filters. Make a portable hood and adapt the vac hose to the top of it. You could adapt a small fan or computer fans inside the hood to help matters. -
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Yes Iotayodi. Being that i live in Manitoba, Canada, it is not always feasible for me to work outside as our winters are pretty long and cold typically. I have been thinking of an uptake exhaust system with flexible duct that i can literally take right over to my soldering station while i'm working.Iotayodi wrote:
Good info on the lead! I dont do a lot of desoldering like this but it gave me a simple idea. A small shop vac with water in it as well as the filters. Make a portable hood and adapt the vac hose to the top of it. You could adapt a small fan or computer fans inside the hood to help matters.
At this time i've suspended working on soldering and tabbing my triple bus barred 6"x6" solar cells as they require 18" of solder tabbing on the front to attach the tabs and and additional 18" of solder on the back to link them together! 36" per cell and just under 100 of them to do. I'm encapsulating them into a 4'x8' sheet of poly carbonate that i've mounted into a custom built frame, so i am forced to solder over the glass. A flexible duct would allow me to have it positioned anywhere around the workspace of the solar panel. I don't want to do any more work on this until either i have warm enough weather to do outside or the exhaust system set up in my lab. Other issue is the sylgard 184 product that i'm using to encapsulate the cell is very strong smelling (like fibreglass epox and resin) and will have a full 4'x8' of exposure to air as it cures over 8+ hours. Won't want to do that in the house either. Very concerned over inhalants now. :P
On another note. While thinking on the subject during the writing of this post i decided i was hungry for some good garlic spaghetti sauce again. I made one with lots of vegetable and onions and of course, lots of garlic. Funny thing did occur and I found myself feeling lethargic and kinda listless afterward. Typically i'm used to feeling kinda hot and sweaty after ingesting lots of garlic. This time i gave up working in the lab for the sake of lack of concentration. I passed out very early and woke up feeling like i was almost dealing with a malady of some sort. So i started doing research on the effect of Garlic. :P
Ok i'm starting to sound like a paranoid freak here but i found that there are some sites on the web that are promoting the idea that Garlic can pose a sort of neuro-toxic threat to our brains. While operating as a natural antibacterial and antibiotic it can also pose some other not so beneficial effects. I just wanted to mention this here since i went so far out of my way to promote the use of garlic for my sinus and lung infection. I don't want to give the impression that i would dose with it regularly with out the need to do so. So hard to know what to believe. I found this link, but like any subject on the interwebs, there are positions on both sides of the fence to consider. So don't just take my word on the issue. My instincts are telling me there could be some truth to the matter though.
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Thanks for posting your experience, it is an important warning for every one playing with hho torchs (including me).
And for your health condition I would suggest you to try MMS, it will kill any infection really very fast and it is a good chealator that will help you to remove the lead and any other heavy metals in short/medium time.
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Linesman Pliers
@The dude
Wow, that is a real bummer but thanks for sharing. I too lived in Manitoba, just moved back to BC two years ago. Are you in the peg? I was.
I learned a trick from a fellow experimenter. In a lot of cases, components are found on a board, and around the needed components is usually.. a whole lot of nothing. (That we needed)
Rather than desoldering, typically, I now often take a very heavy duty pair of linesmen pliers or big heavy metal sheers and cut the area right out of the board surround the component I want. then I place "the chunk" in a vice with it being at a high point.
It does a few things; first off desoldering is often tough due to heat dissipating everywhere and not being hot enough where you want it. Secondly, again, heat, get the heat flowing up to the component and not to surrounding areas.
Then I usually use my large gun, 250 watts and a pump or soldering braid.
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Soldering
Wish you fast recovery Dude and thanks for sharing your experience.
Yogis have many techniques for cleansing as another guy said here. One of them power of the mind. Just be aware of your pain in your body. By awareness only mind heals the body. -
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Hi charly2.charly2 wrote:
Thanks for posting your experience, it is an important warning for every one playing with hho torchs (including me).
And for your health condition I would suggest you to try MMS, it will kill any infection really very fast and it is a good chealator that will help you to remove the lead and any other heavy metals in short/medium time.
Thanks again dude. Thanks for your suggestion. I am very open minded to new products. I have to admit that i had no real prior knowledge of MMS
(Miracle Mineral Solution). I did some research. There are a few sites supporting its benefits.
However, one of the first sites to come up when i searched "Health MMS" on google was a due to being comprised of 28% sodium chlorate solution.
The Canadian government is siting direct health hazard in relation to the consumption of MMS and have requested that MMSsupplier.com remove all of their products from the Canadian market.
Now, I'm not one for just hopping on the "mainstream" band wagon. But do you, or anyone, have any counter points to site against these allegations? -
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for got the link
Here is the link to that advisory on MMS
@ Kcarring. I'm not in Winnipeg now, but have lived there in the past. I'm out in the bushes just outside Brandon now.
Have spent about 4 years on Vancouver Island during my wild and crazy days as a youth. 
I do miss the west coast for it beauty and ocean.
Ya i've clipped a lot of boards away in the way you mentioned. It is the right way to go. I've buggered a transformer when i wasn't careful with that method, but that was just me being careless and not going slowly and carefully enough. Your words are wisdom. Used to keep copper braid around as well. Need to order up some more with my next passive components shopping list.
@ Guruji. You know it! By far our most valuable healing tool is that of our own mind. I believe that our ability to influence healing through meditation is beyond remarkable. I'll let you in on the truth of my hot showers that i mentioned previously to help hydrate my sinus and lungs. The entire time that i am dowsing my head in a constant stream, i am thanking the water for its healing powers and expressing my love for its healing nature. While standing there I meditate for a period and visualize the water moving through my body and penetrating, revitalizing and empowering my cells. Might sound a little bit "out there", so to speak. But for me it works. I do bounce back very quickly. I agree with your appreciation for the minds ability to generate and healing state of being.
@ charly2. I hope you don't find my speculation on MMS too disagreeable. I very much value your opinion on the matter and i do not have any personal experience with this product. Thanks for your kind concern for my story as well.
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@dude - another Canadian- Maritimer here. Yes - I have managed the same thing years ago, stripping PC broads of useful parts. I was lucky to be outside, but the poison still gets in the system.
Fresh air and good water help, and spring - We just had 18C here yesterday.
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@ thedude, yea I had read about how bad could be to take mms, the FDA banned it too. I had to read the Jim Humble's books to understand and get the confidence before dinking it.
I've drinking it once a week for almost 2 years up today, my general health is better than before. I know 9 people drinking it.
But almos everythig in this world in excess can be considered as poison. So if you drink more than your body can handle you are going to have a bad experience like nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea. This will hapen if is taken without the basic knowledge and and drinkin without control, yes, in that way it can be considered as dangerous.
The idea is not to get sick with it, it is very powerfull, so following the protocols you will avoid all bad experiences.
It is very good killing bacteria and fungus, but not so good with viruses.
Btw, it smell horrible, and can be unpleasant for most people.
Hope this helps
Charly2. -
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Heya Wiz! Really need to get out to the the East at some point soon. Heard its beautiful. Ya its no fun getting choked off by that crap. Going to avoid for certain in the future.wizofid wrote:
@dude - another Canadian- Maritimer here. Yes - I have managed the same thing years ago, stripping PC broads of useful parts. I was lucky to be outside, but the poison still gets in the system.
Fresh air and good water help, and spring - We just had 18C here yesterday.
C458
Found this little image about hunting in Canada. :P
Stay safe EH!
Thanks Charly for the clarification.charly2 wrote:
@ thedude, yea I had read about how bad could be to take mms, the FDA banned it too. I had to read the Jim Humble's books to understand and get the confidence before dinking it.
I've drinking it once a week for almost 2 years up today, my general health is better than before. I know 9 people drinking it.
But almos everythig in this world in excess can be considered as poison. So if you drink more than your body can handle you are going to have a bad experience like nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea. This will hapen if is taken without the basic knowledge and and drinkin without control, yes, in that way it can be considered as dangerous.
The idea is not to get sick with it, it is very powerfull, so following the protocols you will avoid all bad experiences.
It is very good killing bacteria and fungus, but not so good with viruses.
Btw, it smell horrible, and can be unpleasant for most people.
Hope this helps
Charly2. Your right. All things must be dealt with in moderation. Even garlic. :P Whew!
I appreciate your perspective on this and I am not deterred from considering MMS. I've learned to be skeptical of what is broadly pronounced by government or other regulatory agencies (FDA) by default. Too many hands shaking behind windowless walls IMO. What is considered "Quackery" by many physicians and professionals in the medical society at large can often lead to general misconceptions in public opinion. Products that serve real medical function, but are not regulatory by official agencies, like black salve or Asea, are very often lacquered with a inappropriate layer of risk. Heck, if i stayed home and drank nothing but orange juice every day for a few weeks, i'd become sick as hell too. :P
Thanks for your response.
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Hi Dude,
Garlic is also a chelator, so win-win with that one, I think.
Regarding the colloidal silver, I have a cs maker, but will only use the cs as a disinfectant. With due respect to others and their choices, I personally am dead against taking any colloidal metal. If someone insists, I would say at least no larger particles than ionic size (e.g., ionic silver). I think you'll find people dead against cs online for what appear to me to be solid reasons - good to do some research. Some claim that once in, it never gets out. Maybe it works for some; I just prefer to go a more natural route.
By way of sharing, my wife and I sent in hair samples to Analytic Research Labs in the US for mineral/heavy metal analysis. They send back a detailed report and recommended supplements based on your profile. I've been taking the supplements 3 months. Did the chlorella, cilantro, garlic and a few other things (juicing) a few years. Thought I was metal-free, but am I'm finding that the body hangs onto the heavy metals until it has ready access to the minerals that should've been there in the first place, then it dumps 'em. First month, I was pretty tired, dumping heavy metals and toxins; could taste metals in my mouth, especially coming out of the teeth (molars). Also frees up fluoride in bones. Anyway, if you're looking for something more, thought I'd share. Here's their website:
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All the best to you
Bob in Greater Ottawa
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