Fixed it, gonna post it here and edit the original post and include it, but my handwritten notes have some good info, so gonna leave the original....sorry all this one is polished though 
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Yeah, lol stayed up late drawing it, sorry...machined the assembly, and then actually wired the components correctly that day, reversed the SCR and Q1 and Q2 NPNs polarity to the FWB rectifier and C1 capacitor as if PNPs when drawing it up tired last night 🤦♂️
Verbal correction while I fix it - (PNPs won't work as SCR conducts in the same manner as a NPN)...FWB positive goes directly to C1 capacitor positive terminal (not ground), SCR Cathode connects directly to FWB negative, SCR anode connects to Q1 NPN emitter, Q1 collector connects C1 capacitor negative terminal. Then, Q2 emitter connects directly to C1 capacitor negative terminal, Q2 collector connects to primary negative, Primary positive then connects directly to C1 positive terminal.....🥴🥱 like I said days ago...switching on the negative....🤦♂️ sorry, the rest is correct.
Verbal correction while I fix it - (PNPs won't work as SCR conducts in the same manner as a NPN)...FWB positive goes directly to C1 capacitor positive terminal (not ground), SCR Cathode connects directly to FWB negative, SCR anode connects to Q1 NPN emitter, Q1 collector connects C1 capacitor negative terminal. Then, Q2 emitter connects directly to C1 capacitor negative terminal, Q2 collector connects to primary negative, Primary positive then connects directly to C1 positive terminal.....🥴🥱 like I said days ago...switching on the negative....🤦♂️ sorry, the rest is correct.
Spotted a mistake on the FWB rectifier and SCR connection polarity...working on the fix now
Furthermore, the intermixed discharge of these two flows creates a distinct HV, low amperage arc, then a slightly lower HV, high current discharge. High-surge current density is needed to make it happen....together with a low impedance primary makes for a tricky delivery. The alternate gating is to fill the rather small capacitor, and then disconnect it before discharging into the primary...while it's not a lot of power over time, it's quite a high surge current, something like 80amps in 33milliseconds or so....if you wanted to ramp it even further with, say a .48uh primary, E-Core epoxy insulated high performance ignition coil, you would probably need a smaller capacitor and surge-current would most likely be even higher.
Also, that circuit schematic isn't exact, pull-down resistors would need to be used, along with correct limiting resistors for the NPN gates, the SCR gate and correct voltage dividing....I have not found a single simulator that can correctly simulate this....and I doubt I will. So, I am carefully proceeding, as my SCR is $158....lol
Also, that circuit schematic isn't exact, pull-down resistors would need to be used, along with correct limiting resistors for the NPN gates, the SCR gate and correct voltage dividing....I have not found a single simulator that can correctly simulate this....and I doubt I will. So, I am carefully proceeding, as my SCR is $158....lol
I mean, it's all laid out....but, I will try and reiterate...Stan did several different things, the demo cell (Dave Lawton replication) is the worst. The next iteration Stan developed right before the miniaturized plug version, was by his own words "tweaked" to produce more gas. That is the autotransformer and diode positive feedback loop. The same circuit drives the last iteration (water fuel plugs). The conversation I initially had with chat gpt is correct, the second theory I had about instantaneous voltage distribution across an inductor (how a variac can be ran in step-up or step-down) is ALSO correct...I initially didn't think both could happen...but. after running the ignition coil/diode chain feedback loop at 12v with a 1/2 watt limiting 220ohm resistor in series with the primary....I swept every harmonic up until it drops off at around 3mhz. The first resonance was found at right around 150hz. In resonance at such low power, the phenomena I showed when dumping a capacitor straight into the primary (disappearing forward induction, straight to flyback polarity) did not happen. Instead using two channels, I set channel one to trigger using the cmos signal on the isolated side of my opto. Then I started by probing the negative of the primary. I found a much higher voltage mirrored signal, with the same phase (lowest input current, and voltage rise on primary in resonance). Probing the primary LV+ before the diodes (hooked to LV+ but, unhooked from the secondary HV lead) I saw almost nothing. Moving to the end of the free-floating diode chain I saw a curious sight, but it would not trigger, i attached the second channel ground to the primary negative while second channel probe was attached to end of diode chain, and shorted the common ground in my oscilloscope. I detached the triggering ground of channel 1, and checked again (now grounded to LV+) ...on the other side of the diode chain, free-floating in air...was a HV wave of opposite polarity but in phase. The diode chain was blocking it from causing issues and the standing resonant tension across the primary kept the two inverted ground potentials separated across the primary despite the HV lead conducting through a neon load to primary ground. Two opposing currents standing still across the primary. The same thing happening across the secondary...these are the opposing counter currents of self/mutual induction....not opposing.....instead, moved out of the way, just waiting all politely lol.
When allowed to conduct, this lower powered manifestation does increase the overall power seen in the load neon....but not like before (not as intense, and the wrong polarity).....the neon shows that the polarity is NOT flyback polarity...primary ground is positive biased to the diode chain/HV lead. So, without the current density, the magnetic flux isn't strong enough to produce enough opposing self/mutual induction counter-flow to overcome the normal flow and pull it all into the backside of the secondary (postive feedback loop).....because, the higher the magnetism, the longer it takes the forward current to get across the primary coil and the higher the counter-emf voltage climbs , yet the primary voltage travels across the coil instantly...and here's the key, this autotransformer voltage distribution (instantly across the primary......and the much higher impedance secondary, as if one long variac in step-up mode) results in the LV+ overextending all the way to the top of the secondary and becoming HV+. This results in a much stronger/faster pull on the primary current lagging behind 90deg. This in turn creates an even larger counter self/mutual induction than normal, the assymetry of the primary + secondary inductance as one coil, means the voltage of the mutually induced counter current in the secondary overcomes the autotransformer voltage (HV+) faster than the primary surge-current can get through the primary (the increased voltage=greater magnetism=greater opposed self/mutual induction=greater initial current lag....quite counter-intuitively) and it makes the diode chain start to conduct the opposing mutual-induction from the secondary, and the opposing self-induction from the primary to practically zero ohm backside of the secondary. This not only removes the opposition out of the way of the primary current making its way all the way to the tip of the secondary, these two flows, now create their own opposing self/mutual induction flows that pile up on the primary current/voltage, as such, the primary current moves faster than it would normally cross the primary and now wants to go up to the LV+ turned HV+ at the top of the secondary, the opposing flows head to same place in an opposite direction through the diode chain...this compounding positive feedback loop continues until the primary current empties from the capacitor. The moment the capacitor empties, the magnetic field collapses and both currents reverse polarity and all of the currents are in the secondary (either in the coil, or on it's backside in the feedback loop)...the 100uf capacitor is not enough to make if all the way across the primary (if it makes it at all), the self/mutual induced currents flip to HV+ , the primary HV+ at the top of the secondary flips to negative and through the low resistance HV lead, keeps the diodes conducting. The HV+ counter-flows are more opposed to ground, and when I sprayed water in a confined glass bottle containing the triple electrode setup I showed before, it avoided the middle diode chain electrode and skin effect conducted on the wet glass around it to the ground electrode....but, if the path to the middle electrode is the lower resistance than the ground electrode, the HV+ will strike lower HV+ of the primary current coming out of the diode chain, and together they will then pull even more current from the ground electrode.
There is some wave destruction as the discharge voltage is lower then normal flyback (normal flyback spark can span the entire distance, and this phenomena has to be positioned to span two 1/2 distances)....but ALL the current (minus loses) is applied to HV....the primary current is not destroyed as normally happens.....hopefully it clicks now.
When allowed to conduct, this lower powered manifestation does increase the overall power seen in the load neon....but not like before (not as intense, and the wrong polarity).....the neon shows that the polarity is NOT flyback polarity...primary ground is positive biased to the diode chain/HV lead. So, without the current density, the magnetic flux isn't strong enough to produce enough opposing self/mutual induction counter-flow to overcome the normal flow and pull it all into the backside of the secondary (postive feedback loop).....because, the higher the magnetism, the longer it takes the forward current to get across the primary coil and the higher the counter-emf voltage climbs , yet the primary voltage travels across the coil instantly...and here's the key, this autotransformer voltage distribution (instantly across the primary......and the much higher impedance secondary, as if one long variac in step-up mode) results in the LV+ overextending all the way to the top of the secondary and becoming HV+. This results in a much stronger/faster pull on the primary current lagging behind 90deg. This in turn creates an even larger counter self/mutual induction than normal, the assymetry of the primary + secondary inductance as one coil, means the voltage of the mutually induced counter current in the secondary overcomes the autotransformer voltage (HV+) faster than the primary surge-current can get through the primary (the increased voltage=greater magnetism=greater opposed self/mutual induction=greater initial current lag....quite counter-intuitively) and it makes the diode chain start to conduct the opposing mutual-induction from the secondary, and the opposing self-induction from the primary to practically zero ohm backside of the secondary. This not only removes the opposition out of the way of the primary current making its way all the way to the tip of the secondary, these two flows, now create their own opposing self/mutual induction flows that pile up on the primary current/voltage, as such, the primary current moves faster than it would normally cross the primary and now wants to go up to the LV+ turned HV+ at the top of the secondary, the opposing flows head to same place in an opposite direction through the diode chain...this compounding positive feedback loop continues until the primary current empties from the capacitor. The moment the capacitor empties, the magnetic field collapses and both currents reverse polarity and all of the currents are in the secondary (either in the coil, or on it's backside in the feedback loop)...the 100uf capacitor is not enough to make if all the way across the primary (if it makes it at all), the self/mutual induced currents flip to HV+ , the primary HV+ at the top of the secondary flips to negative and through the low resistance HV lead, keeps the diodes conducting. The HV+ counter-flows are more opposed to ground, and when I sprayed water in a confined glass bottle containing the triple electrode setup I showed before, it avoided the middle diode chain electrode and skin effect conducted on the wet glass around it to the ground electrode....but, if the path to the middle electrode is the lower resistance than the ground electrode, the HV+ will strike lower HV+ of the primary current coming out of the diode chain, and together they will then pull even more current from the ground electrode.
There is some wave destruction as the discharge voltage is lower then normal flyback (normal flyback spark can span the entire distance, and this phenomena has to be positioned to span two 1/2 distances)....but ALL the current (minus loses) is applied to HV....the primary current is not destroyed as normally happens.....hopefully it clicks now.
P.S. I didn't draw or mention the chokes, because I already explained their function in previous analysis of this autotransformer feedback loop. They delay current flow, to bring it in harmony with the primary current dump. The only thing that isn't %100 certain is the placement of the resistive load...I placed it on the negative because of Stan's patent that describes a custom resistor on the negative consisting of a sandwich stack of stainless steel and carbon....that, and my observation of the 3 terminal discharge I shared in video before. The HV lead must arc to the LV+ diode string (it would rather arc to ground), then current can be seen rising from the ground up to the LV+. That is how the current amplification phenomena manifests. I will repost videos somewhere more secure than YouTube in the future, both videos are actually correct...but, idk...it's so easy to make one yourself, it's not a priority of mine...and if you do, it will be self-evident.
P.P.S. the chokes would go on the HV lead to the tube set, and the negative lead to tube set...the EEC resisitive load would most likely go on the LV+ after the diodes (like I said in earlier posts, ignore the misinfo and do not wind the chokes to nullify mutual induction)...good luck everyone.
Edit: I made an educated guess on the chokes, and the EEC resistive load in the previous post's edit...pretty sure I got it licked....
P.P.S. the chokes would go on the HV lead to the tube set, and the negative lead to tube set...the EEC resisitive load would most likely go on the LV+ after the diodes (like I said in earlier posts, ignore the misinfo and do not wind the chokes to nullify mutual induction)...good luck everyone.
Edit: I made an educated guess on the chokes, and the EEC resistive load in the previous post's edit...pretty sure I got it licked....
Last thing for now.
My custom wound toroidal transformer is (temporarily was) a huge success. I used a EL817 optoisolator to trigger a pre-amp ksp2222a npn, that triggers the power-stage 2n3055 npn transistor all commonly powered (except the input signal) by a Vhf engineering 11-15v regulated power supply I set to 13.5v. The input signal ground is attached to common ground.
The results were observed by monitoring the input signal on the LED side of the optoisolator and common ground on channel A of my oscilloscope (setting this to the trigger channel of the oscilloscope), and then channel B was attached to the 2n3055 tab (collector).
The results showed an incredibly high bandwidth of operation, and a pleasant audible musical quality reminiscent of retro 8-bit arcade music 🤣
I applied a neon across the secondary to aid in visual observation and was the only secondary load during my tests. I found that the MgZn ferrite core "rings" during the entire operation, from 1hz to 15mhz. The first resonance was found at around 150hz, the most powerful resonance at approximately 300hz, but higher harmonics at 900hz and 1.8mh were barely lower voltage than 300hz, going to higher harmonics produced more significantly lower voltages. I couldn't observe the secondary side as I do not have a probe capable of enduring the high voltage. However, my oscilloscope read just under 300v peaks on the primary side in the same polarity as the input, but out of phase 180deg, matching the T-Off period of the input at 300hz resonance.
Sadly, transferring my breadboard circuit to protoboard, I reverse biased the ksp2222a accidentally and overvoltaged the emitter to gate, frying the only ksp2222a I had at the time, and the opto. Only economical source of ksp2222a I found was in China (after trying multiple pre-amp npn transistors, the ksp2222a performed amazingly), and they recently arrived. I knew they would be slightly different than the one I had used, so I replaced the 220ohm limiting resistors I had used, with variable 500ohm resistors. Again, sadly...they performed very poorly, the circuit worked, but the performance observed in the waveform was atrocious. The transformer operation was dampened and the waveform was not ringing like it was before and the highest voltage observed on the collector tab was 34v...I resoldered many times getting it all back together, and that coupled with the leaky variable resistors I suspect was responsible for the poor performance, as I saw the characteristic ringing oscillations I was after, unreliably, and momentarily when I would physically push on the variable resistors. So I yet again remade the signal and amplification circuit on a protoboard using my original 220ohm resistors, all new ICs and never soldering above 300c. I'm nearly ready to test it again, and I'm hoping I again see the performance I had on my breadboard. If I do, I will post pics, maybe a video, and I will make a circuit diagram showing how well all NPN triggering works...oh yeah, it's actually 3 NPNs, as the output side of the opto is also an NPN.
My custom wound toroidal transformer is (temporarily was) a huge success. I used a EL817 optoisolator to trigger a pre-amp ksp2222a npn, that triggers the power-stage 2n3055 npn transistor all commonly powered (except the input signal) by a Vhf engineering 11-15v regulated power supply I set to 13.5v. The input signal ground is attached to common ground.
The results were observed by monitoring the input signal on the LED side of the optoisolator and common ground on channel A of my oscilloscope (setting this to the trigger channel of the oscilloscope), and then channel B was attached to the 2n3055 tab (collector).
The results showed an incredibly high bandwidth of operation, and a pleasant audible musical quality reminiscent of retro 8-bit arcade music 🤣
I applied a neon across the secondary to aid in visual observation and was the only secondary load during my tests. I found that the MgZn ferrite core "rings" during the entire operation, from 1hz to 15mhz. The first resonance was found at around 150hz, the most powerful resonance at approximately 300hz, but higher harmonics at 900hz and 1.8mh were barely lower voltage than 300hz, going to higher harmonics produced more significantly lower voltages. I couldn't observe the secondary side as I do not have a probe capable of enduring the high voltage. However, my oscilloscope read just under 300v peaks on the primary side in the same polarity as the input, but out of phase 180deg, matching the T-Off period of the input at 300hz resonance.
Sadly, transferring my breadboard circuit to protoboard, I reverse biased the ksp2222a accidentally and overvoltaged the emitter to gate, frying the only ksp2222a I had at the time, and the opto. Only economical source of ksp2222a I found was in China (after trying multiple pre-amp npn transistors, the ksp2222a performed amazingly), and they recently arrived. I knew they would be slightly different than the one I had used, so I replaced the 220ohm limiting resistors I had used, with variable 500ohm resistors. Again, sadly...they performed very poorly, the circuit worked, but the performance observed in the waveform was atrocious. The transformer operation was dampened and the waveform was not ringing like it was before and the highest voltage observed on the collector tab was 34v...I resoldered many times getting it all back together, and that coupled with the leaky variable resistors I suspect was responsible for the poor performance, as I saw the characteristic ringing oscillations I was after, unreliably, and momentarily when I would physically push on the variable resistors. So I yet again remade the signal and amplification circuit on a protoboard using my original 220ohm resistors, all new ICs and never soldering above 300c. I'm nearly ready to test it again, and I'm hoping I again see the performance I had on my breadboard. If I do, I will post pics, maybe a video, and I will make a circuit diagram showing how well all NPN triggering works...oh yeah, it's actually 3 NPNs, as the output side of the opto is also an NPN.
I am posting currently from my cell phone...I recently moved my PC desk and my work station to create a proper work area. I need to finish setting up my PC so I can edit these illustrations with color overlays to make my observations visually obvious to others. But, for a "teaser" to my revelation, I will post the unedited key illustration(s) from Stan's patents now, and verbally explain it.
If you analyze the attached illustration(s), specifically 8b, you will see the "Voltage intensifier circuit" is analogous to an ignition coil (if not an actual standard ignition coil). Analyzing Stan's illustration attached, labeled 8b, notice the common connection between the primary and secondary (autotransformer)...notice the "ground" symbol connection at this junction. That "ground" symbol is deceptive...the polarization of the primary is backwards in the illustration, it's either deceptive, or just a conceptual diagram. The truthful polarization of that coil would have the ground symbol actually be low-voltage positive at that common connection point, and common ground at the opposite side of the primary.
I'm a conspiracy theorist through and through...and it's my suspiscion that this illustration was edited after the fact, evidenced by the anomalous continuation of the elipse at the top of secondary coil past the termination point to the diode and choke leading to the middle electrode, and also, if you zoom into various areas of the illustration...it appears the edit was done very crudely with MS paint 🤣
The original is photocopied and contains line breaks, inclusions and other optical artifacts....the edited areas are perfectly straight digitally created lines without optical artifacts, and if you look really hard, you can see slight misalignment, and portions of the original (removed) lines barely showing underneath.
I implore you to, at least temporarily, assume what I say is correct, and ignore the specifics of the deceptive alterations. The core of Stan's illustration persists, and the edits only mislead those who would attempt to create a circuit directly from the illustration instead of having a true understanding of the phenomena.
Now, analyze 8b's primary positive connection, notice the evidence of editing at this connection and then at several spots along the path...realize that this is actually the true point of the common primary/secondary connection, and then superimpose my circuit over it in your mind...this is the low-voltage positive, the path after the current limiting resistor is an edit...look at how perfect the illustration line is, it's a digital edit after the fact, it's so obvious. Something critical has been altered, so, just look at the core premise of the illustration....realize that it's my circuit's "split positive" diode chain path to the third electrode....quite literally, look at the last diode's polarization, look at the electrode arrangement, the inner electrode extends past the outter electrode, the floating 3rd electrode supplying LV+....it's what I have shown you here!!!
Lastly, let's analyze the familiar waveform of the attached Fig7 illustration.
What do you see? I used to think it was a gated resonant frequency...It is NOT!!! It is actually the synthesized equivalent of ~100uf capacitor at 120v....(ironic???) It's rectified 60hz AC...each pulse is 120hz four pulses long...that's a 30hz pulse, or a 33.3millisecond pulse. It's not a coincidence that the calculated capacitance of a capacitor taking 33.3milliseconds to discharge across an ignition coil primary having 7.6ohm resistance, and 1.48uh impedance (the value of my Spectra c624 ignition coil primary) is 90.7uf 🤔
If you analyze the attached illustration(s), specifically 8b, you will see the "Voltage intensifier circuit" is analogous to an ignition coil (if not an actual standard ignition coil). Analyzing Stan's illustration attached, labeled 8b, notice the common connection between the primary and secondary (autotransformer)...notice the "ground" symbol connection at this junction. That "ground" symbol is deceptive...the polarization of the primary is backwards in the illustration, it's either deceptive, or just a conceptual diagram. The truthful polarization of that coil would have the ground symbol actually be low-voltage positive at that common connection point, and common ground at the opposite side of the primary.
I'm a conspiracy theorist through and through...and it's my suspiscion that this illustration was edited after the fact, evidenced by the anomalous continuation of the elipse at the top of secondary coil past the termination point to the diode and choke leading to the middle electrode, and also, if you zoom into various areas of the illustration...it appears the edit was done very crudely with MS paint 🤣
The original is photocopied and contains line breaks, inclusions and other optical artifacts....the edited areas are perfectly straight digitally created lines without optical artifacts, and if you look really hard, you can see slight misalignment, and portions of the original (removed) lines barely showing underneath.
I implore you to, at least temporarily, assume what I say is correct, and ignore the specifics of the deceptive alterations. The core of Stan's illustration persists, and the edits only mislead those who would attempt to create a circuit directly from the illustration instead of having a true understanding of the phenomena.
Now, analyze 8b's primary positive connection, notice the evidence of editing at this connection and then at several spots along the path...realize that this is actually the true point of the common primary/secondary connection, and then superimpose my circuit over it in your mind...this is the low-voltage positive, the path after the current limiting resistor is an edit...look at how perfect the illustration line is, it's a digital edit after the fact, it's so obvious. Something critical has been altered, so, just look at the core premise of the illustration....realize that it's my circuit's "split positive" diode chain path to the third electrode....quite literally, look at the last diode's polarization, look at the electrode arrangement, the inner electrode extends past the outter electrode, the floating 3rd electrode supplying LV+....it's what I have shown you here!!!
Lastly, let's analyze the familiar waveform of the attached Fig7 illustration.
What do you see? I used to think it was a gated resonant frequency...It is NOT!!! It is actually the synthesized equivalent of ~100uf capacitor at 120v....(ironic???) It's rectified 60hz AC...each pulse is 120hz four pulses long...that's a 30hz pulse, or a 33.3millisecond pulse. It's not a coincidence that the calculated capacitance of a capacitor taking 33.3milliseconds to discharge across an ignition coil primary having 7.6ohm resistance, and 1.48uh impedance (the value of my Spectra c624 ignition coil primary) is 90.7uf 🤔
Taking a break from hand-winding the torroid (hands are sore from straightening that 14awg as I wound)...
Anyway, I was messing with the ignition coil circuit again and did some more rigorous tests (video soon)...I was more right 12 years ago 🤦♂️😅
It's not a postive feedback loop....threw me for a loop because it is operating in flyback polarity 100%...it's so much simpler...kinda bummed it doesn't reroute the self/mutual inductions....it just omits them all together. But it's definitely not ionizing the airgap with the forward induced pulse and dumping the cap across the air-gap....
It's still free power amplification, but not as eloquent as I imagined.
Anyway...remember a standard ignition coil is an autotransformer, just like a variac...but the wiper arm isn't movable (its a center-tap), and the coil is assymetrical (way higher impedance on the secondary portion).
So, there's two ways to run a variac...step-down (usual mode), and step-up (not common).
In step-down mode, the source is applied across the entire coil, and the load/output is on the bottom of the coil and the wiper arm. For ease of calculations, let's say source is 240v across the entire coil, and there are 240 turns....that means 1v/turn. So whatever turn you set the wiper arm to is the voltage output 240-0v...so setting it to midway, 120 turns, outputs 120v.
Now, step-up mode....reverse source and load....source is on the bottom of the coil, and the wiper arm. Load is across entire coil....so, coil is still 240 turns, but source is now 120v....it's still 1v/turn, so if we set source to 120 turns, it's 120v at midway, plus another 120 turns up to load...@1v/turn it's 120v+120v...load sees 240v
So, back to the ignition coil....it's a variac in step-up mode (just induction optimized and wayyyyy more turns, and thinner windings higher up the series coil)...if we remember back to the behavior of a capacitor across an inductor...voltage transfers instantly across the inductor, before current (therefore before opposite induction voltage)....so, instantaneously before any induced pulse, there is a huge current-less step-up voltage in phase with applied primary voltage at HV lead....making it HV+....
The current hasn't left the capacitor yet, but the diodes are turned on to conduct, and the LV+ is many orders of magnitude below the HV+, so it conducts the LV+ away from the primary inductor, the HV+ only losses a tiny voltage potential because it's impedance/turns is/are so much higher, then the remaining HV+ pulls the current up from the LV-, amplifying the total wattage for free....
In the video, I'm going to make, I will show the 3-contact spark-gap I remembered. The infamous "split the positive" setup I did all the years ago, and it's waaaaay more reliable and obvious (this ties into so many OU devices)...I'm gonna try and get it on super-slowmo too...I put some UV glasses on and you can actually see the spark from the HV+ and the current coming up from the LV-. The neon is pushed so far over-rating the orange neon is blue-white, and the negative is sputtering metal onto the glass (super high-velocity electrons/ions)....I need to get ahold of ionizing smoke detector and see if it's pushing x-rays....but one more video first lol
I figured it out through a couple of observations (like the more energetic arc can't jump as long of a gap as the normal inductive flyback arc...so must be lower voltage), but most notably when messing with the tri-spark-gap configuration (split-positive)....I made the gap to the negative too far, and the HV lead Arc'd to the diodes (LV+), and not to the LV- at all....it fried the diode chain, and I realized the HV+ arc'd to LV+ as LV- bias and over-voltaged the 6k reverse voltage of the chain...
Here's where I verified what I thought I remembered...lol
https://eepower.com/technical-articles/constructing-and-operating-an-autotransformer/
Anyway, gonna make the video now...takes forever to upload these days...will post a follow up with it soon.
P.S. I think this may relate to Stan's negative choke (wiper arm)....especially looking at something said to P85 years ago by a person who knew his shit on Stan's setup...yes P85, I be lurking lol....the guy who told you how to wire Lawton PLL...
[EDIT]...
As the HV+ pulls the current from the LV-, there must be "Chain-Linked" reverse current flow out of the primary (same as flyback collapse) which would increase the HV+ charge....so there is some positive feedback....it's just not the "prime-mover" like I thought.
Anyway, I was messing with the ignition coil circuit again and did some more rigorous tests (video soon)...I was more right 12 years ago 🤦♂️😅
It's not a postive feedback loop....threw me for a loop because it is operating in flyback polarity 100%...it's so much simpler...kinda bummed it doesn't reroute the self/mutual inductions....it just omits them all together. But it's definitely not ionizing the airgap with the forward induced pulse and dumping the cap across the air-gap....
It's still free power amplification, but not as eloquent as I imagined.
Anyway...remember a standard ignition coil is an autotransformer, just like a variac...but the wiper arm isn't movable (its a center-tap), and the coil is assymetrical (way higher impedance on the secondary portion).
So, there's two ways to run a variac...step-down (usual mode), and step-up (not common).
In step-down mode, the source is applied across the entire coil, and the load/output is on the bottom of the coil and the wiper arm. For ease of calculations, let's say source is 240v across the entire coil, and there are 240 turns....that means 1v/turn. So whatever turn you set the wiper arm to is the voltage output 240-0v...so setting it to midway, 120 turns, outputs 120v.
Now, step-up mode....reverse source and load....source is on the bottom of the coil, and the wiper arm. Load is across entire coil....so, coil is still 240 turns, but source is now 120v....it's still 1v/turn, so if we set source to 120 turns, it's 120v at midway, plus another 120 turns up to load...@1v/turn it's 120v+120v...load sees 240v
So, back to the ignition coil....it's a variac in step-up mode (just induction optimized and wayyyyy more turns, and thinner windings higher up the series coil)...if we remember back to the behavior of a capacitor across an inductor...voltage transfers instantly across the inductor, before current (therefore before opposite induction voltage)....so, instantaneously before any induced pulse, there is a huge current-less step-up voltage in phase with applied primary voltage at HV lead....making it HV+....
The current hasn't left the capacitor yet, but the diodes are turned on to conduct, and the LV+ is many orders of magnitude below the HV+, so it conducts the LV+ away from the primary inductor, the HV+ only losses a tiny voltage potential because it's impedance/turns is/are so much higher, then the remaining HV+ pulls the current up from the LV-, amplifying the total wattage for free....
In the video, I'm going to make, I will show the 3-contact spark-gap I remembered. The infamous "split the positive" setup I did all the years ago, and it's waaaaay more reliable and obvious (this ties into so many OU devices)...I'm gonna try and get it on super-slowmo too...I put some UV glasses on and you can actually see the spark from the HV+ and the current coming up from the LV-. The neon is pushed so far over-rating the orange neon is blue-white, and the negative is sputtering metal onto the glass (super high-velocity electrons/ions)....I need to get ahold of ionizing smoke detector and see if it's pushing x-rays....but one more video first lol
I figured it out through a couple of observations (like the more energetic arc can't jump as long of a gap as the normal inductive flyback arc...so must be lower voltage), but most notably when messing with the tri-spark-gap configuration (split-positive)....I made the gap to the negative too far, and the HV lead Arc'd to the diodes (LV+), and not to the LV- at all....it fried the diode chain, and I realized the HV+ arc'd to LV+ as LV- bias and over-voltaged the 6k reverse voltage of the chain...
Here's where I verified what I thought I remembered...lol
https://eepower.com/technical-articles/constructing-and-operating-an-autotransformer/
Anyway, gonna make the video now...takes forever to upload these days...will post a follow up with it soon.
P.S. I think this may relate to Stan's negative choke (wiper arm)....especially looking at something said to P85 years ago by a person who knew his shit on Stan's setup...yes P85, I be lurking lol....the guy who told you how to wire Lawton PLL...
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As the HV+ pulls the current from the LV-, there must be "Chain-Linked" reverse current flow out of the primary (same as flyback collapse) which would increase the HV+ charge....so there is some positive feedback....it's just not the "prime-mover" like I thought.
You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them
I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space
The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken
I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard
Use a car paste for polishing at the end phase
I used 60-220grit dry ceramic based sandpaper to start/remove welds, then 600grit ceramic wet sandpaper, then 2000grit ceramic wet sandpaper...finished the inner electrode with titanium dioxide buffing compound. Achieved a mirror finish, there's a few tiny hairline scratches here and there, I will do a final buff before assembly. Also tapped the inner electrode (will fabricate a brass or copper lug embedded in the PETG mount to attach) and a small tap on the outter electrode for electrical connection. Should bounce all that light around real nice. (Pics attached)
Very nice electrodes
If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it
This is a good idea, I will do that
Disappointed today, I had a 4.6" ferrite toroid delivered today...it was shattered in about 6 pieces 😰
Luckily a free replacement is on the way...hopefully they package it a little better this time 🤞
Luckily a free replacement is on the way...hopefully they package it a little better this time 🤞
Thanks, doing some experiments to see if 410nm is opaque to glass/water...to see what kind of housing to make the container/window out of.
Woke up early for this....these babies came earlier than expected. About to bust out the drill press while I wait on some other components, Gas processor+EEC 🤔
Well, CD4047BE worked like a charm....
Just mocked up, waiting on some components to arrive to really finish it....but, it works like a charm. Gating pulse generator is compliment-gating the resonant pulse generator, and simultaneously driving a dummy LED (will be swapped for an opto-darlington). Super exciting....
A few key points to CD4047BE; Timing capacitor needs to be non-polar. The input on the main compliment-gating CD4047 has a 10Kohm pull-down resistor to ground, preventing a floating input. For the chip to act as it should, you shouldn't use less than 10Kohm timing resistor, and shouldn't be more 1Mohm. The timing capacitor should not be less than 100pf...super simple. When the rest of my components get here, I will decide/finalize the opto section....Need to decide if I am going to wire the darlington's gate to emitter to make it an opto-diode...less gain, but should operate cleanly up to around 300Mhz.
Attached are pics of the waveform, and the test circuit with dummy LED lit up....
Just mocked up, waiting on some components to arrive to really finish it....but, it works like a charm. Gating pulse generator is compliment-gating the resonant pulse generator, and simultaneously driving a dummy LED (will be swapped for an opto-darlington). Super exciting....
A few key points to CD4047BE; Timing capacitor needs to be non-polar. The input on the main compliment-gating CD4047 has a 10Kohm pull-down resistor to ground, preventing a floating input. For the chip to act as it should, you shouldn't use less than 10Kohm timing resistor, and shouldn't be more 1Mohm. The timing capacitor should not be less than 100pf...super simple. When the rest of my components get here, I will decide/finalize the opto section....Need to decide if I am going to wire the darlington's gate to emitter to make it an opto-diode...less gain, but should operate cleanly up to around 300Mhz.
Attached are pics of the waveform, and the test circuit with dummy LED lit up....
It would also lock electrons "in motion" as they try to bleed off through resistor instead of snapping back through ion relaxation (that would also encourage solvated electrons, that would respond to an orthagonal magnetic field 🤔)...then we supply a much lower resistive path to ground with the Electron Exctraction Circuit...OK, gonna go make the gating half of my dual CD4047B pulse generator Finished the main resonant frequency, compliment-gating mode CD4047B...now I just have to make another free-running one to gate it...I could just use the 1/2 frequency Q or Q not output, but, one of them is slightly out of phase, and not sure if 50% duty cycle of resonant frequency is going to be right...I can adjust it uncoupled to resonant frequency with a second one...gonna pull down the gate signal with a resistor just enough to still be a high-state input, but simutaneously trigger a H11G2 optodarlington, to trigger a NTE5569 1400v 80 amp SCR.
Ok....that's why there's a huge Mohm resistor on Stan's negative, instead of true insulating coating....voltage travels from - to +, and current travels from + to -...it's a resistor in series, not a bleed-off resistor...it allows voltage to pass instantly and therefore pull current from the +, but when the current gets to the negative it can't flow much at all....but we still get that influx flow into the water capacitor to power the choke effects...and everything on the negative side choke, assymetrically gets pulled into the feedback loop durring choke influx....it would rarifiy the negative leg of the secondary, causing a rise in negative voltage....those mirrored, in-phase AC-like pulses in Stan's patents.....wow, it just dawned on me...OK, no insulation, just some custom high resistance load resistors on each negative, all wired in series...👍
Almost forgot....we also need to bleed off the energy with the Electron Extraction Circuit to discharge the water capacitor. Because even though DC can't technically flow through/past a capacitor....much like an inductor, an empty capacitor will allow an influx of voltage, that pulls in, aka "condensces" (capacitors used to be called condensers), or, otherwise fills the capacacitor with current. So to keep getting choking action out of the chokes, we have to periodically drain the Water Capacitor. We drain it, in such a way that electrons leave the water capacitor to neutralize and nucleate the temporarily dissacociated ions into neutral molecular gasses....and again, on the surface, it looks like regular electrolysis to the meters and scopes.
Now, on to the secondary....and those pesky "chokes" (think of that word....choke....) we want to do the opposite of what was just demonstrated. Instead of neutralizing self, and or mutual-induction opposition forces, we want to amplify these time-delaying forces.
The claim that the chokes flux should nullify each other, is misinformation. The very term "choke" describes thier action....to restrict and prevent flow,...to "choke". Having the two coil's flux cancel, by not reversing the polarity of negative side choke (same direction coil, opposite direction flow) would also cancel their opposing induced flows....there would literally be no reason to wind the chokes at all...the diode isn't blocking anything then, as the WFC would only see positive spikes, with very little inductive ripple.
That would do nothing constructive to restrict amperage and it would, in fact, sabotage the next primary forward current flow (the energy we have to pay for) after the flyback that just pulsed the secondary. Because it would cause an opposite voltage (direction) mutual-induction in the primary....the chokes would be doing nothing, and the amplified current flow in the secondary we just so cleverly maximized/amplified have to fight the re-routed flow induced from primary current, and simutaneously create a high opposition reverse flow that would destroy our forward pulse.....horrible idea!!!!
Instead, the chokes have additive flux, restricting current flow severely, additive self/mutual-inductance...that, because of only one "pumping diode" on the positive side, is allowed to reverse flow from the negative side into our positive feedback loop. This would have two very significant results....
A. Accelerating the primary current, and increasing the primary current time-compression even more (compounding even more harmony), and....
B. Forcefully removing/sucking the opposing self/mutual-induced currents from the chokes, into the positive feedback loop, removing the opposing voltage from the pumping diode, accelerating the flyback collapse of the chokes, accelerating the secondary flow into (and simutaneously out of) the WFC (and into the positive feedback loop), all while the primary flyback collapse starts....
The result is....two harmonious, mutually accelerating, helical, caduceus S-flows....one in the primary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop, and a mirrored one with the secondary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop...each, accelerating each other towards infinity (limited by imperfect components....but very HUGE amplification).......Lastly, it all would be there in the positive feedback loop, existing both outside the secondary, but inside the secondary the moment the primary flyback occurs and shuts down the feedback loop's diode(s).....only to start all over again...I present to you....Stan's crypticly understated "double pulse" two mirrored S-flows,...aka, the infinity loop, aka the "flux capacitor".......But....wait, there's more.....something would have to give...failure of water dielectric, blown diodes, arc'd out burnt windings....something would give...so, this event....happening with every resonant pulse, HAS to be modulated...aka "gated"....aka turned off periodically before components fail....and that compliment gating, off-signal, immediately turns on a completely separate circuit, to extract electrons using that huge stored charge.... Funniest part, if you don't know whats going on, and test it at any part of the system...it just looks like plain old electrolysis.....
That's it, demystified (more on Gas processor and atomic hydrogen later)...it doesn't outright violate any laws...buuuuut, it does require "outside energy" to explain the amplification....that, I argue is a quantum Aether, I argue these opposing self/mutual-inductance forces are polarized eddy-like currents of sticky Aether dragging against our currents as we force them through the aether, aka the "heavy-side flow", polarized and in opposition to our currents, causing drag "every action has an equal and opposite reaction"....whatever we push against, or pull against, pushes or pulls back against us.
In an attempt to balance our "unnatural" imbalance (the entire Universe interacts on the basis of reaching equilibrium/balance)...it manifests a measurable opposition, and we can reroute it, and severely imbalance the Aether and rhen use the influx of balancing Aetheric energy to amplify our energy.....Furthermore, the flyback time-compression is caused also by the Aether....we pay energy to perform work (push the Aether away with a magnetic field)....like blowing up a balloon under the ocean....when we stop, the atmospheric pressure of the Aether collapses it so hard and fast that it spikes past ground-state equilibrium....towards infinity...and in a fraction of the time....🤓😎
The claim that the chokes flux should nullify each other, is misinformation. The very term "choke" describes thier action....to restrict and prevent flow,...to "choke". Having the two coil's flux cancel, by not reversing the polarity of negative side choke (same direction coil, opposite direction flow) would also cancel their opposing induced flows....there would literally be no reason to wind the chokes at all...the diode isn't blocking anything then, as the WFC would only see positive spikes, with very little inductive ripple.
That would do nothing constructive to restrict amperage and it would, in fact, sabotage the next primary forward current flow (the energy we have to pay for) after the flyback that just pulsed the secondary. Because it would cause an opposite voltage (direction) mutual-induction in the primary....the chokes would be doing nothing, and the amplified current flow in the secondary we just so cleverly maximized/amplified have to fight the re-routed flow induced from primary current, and simutaneously create a high opposition reverse flow that would destroy our forward pulse.....horrible idea!!!!
Instead, the chokes have additive flux, restricting current flow severely, additive self/mutual-inductance...that, because of only one "pumping diode" on the positive side, is allowed to reverse flow from the negative side into our positive feedback loop. This would have two very significant results....
A. Accelerating the primary current, and increasing the primary current time-compression even more (compounding even more harmony), and....
B. Forcefully removing/sucking the opposing self/mutual-induced currents from the chokes, into the positive feedback loop, removing the opposing voltage from the pumping diode, accelerating the flyback collapse of the chokes, accelerating the secondary flow into (and simutaneously out of) the WFC (and into the positive feedback loop), all while the primary flyback collapse starts....
The result is....two harmonious, mutually accelerating, helical, caduceus S-flows....one in the primary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop, and a mirrored one with the secondary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop...each, accelerating each other towards infinity (limited by imperfect components....but very HUGE amplification).......Lastly, it all would be there in the positive feedback loop, existing both outside the secondary, but inside the secondary the moment the primary flyback occurs and shuts down the feedback loop's diode(s).....only to start all over again...I present to you....Stan's crypticly understated "double pulse" two mirrored S-flows,...aka, the infinity loop, aka the "flux capacitor".......But....wait, there's more.....something would have to give...failure of water dielectric, blown diodes, arc'd out burnt windings....something would give...so, this event....happening with every resonant pulse, HAS to be modulated...aka "gated"....aka turned off periodically before components fail....and that compliment gating, off-signal, immediately turns on a completely separate circuit, to extract electrons using that huge stored charge.... Funniest part, if you don't know whats going on, and test it at any part of the system...it just looks like plain old electrolysis.....
That's it, demystified (more on Gas processor and atomic hydrogen later)...it doesn't outright violate any laws...buuuuut, it does require "outside energy" to explain the amplification....that, I argue is a quantum Aether, I argue these opposing self/mutual-inductance forces are polarized eddy-like currents of sticky Aether dragging against our currents as we force them through the aether, aka the "heavy-side flow", polarized and in opposition to our currents, causing drag "every action has an equal and opposite reaction"....whatever we push against, or pull against, pushes or pulls back against us.
In an attempt to balance our "unnatural" imbalance (the entire Universe interacts on the basis of reaching equilibrium/balance)...it manifests a measurable opposition, and we can reroute it, and severely imbalance the Aether and rhen use the influx of balancing Aetheric energy to amplify our energy.....Furthermore, the flyback time-compression is caused also by the Aether....we pay energy to perform work (push the Aether away with a magnetic field)....like blowing up a balloon under the ocean....when we stop, the atmospheric pressure of the Aether collapses it so hard and fast that it spikes past ground-state equilibrium....towards infinity...and in a fraction of the time....🤓😎
First video in years....I need to find my real camera...phones is too slow 😪. Although, you clearly see plasma from the top electrode when I first remove the diode string....the video doesn't do the phenomena justice.
Anyway, take a look at what I'm trying to share...
The anomalous event is so fast, the camera never once caught it...just the sound and the "after flash". Yet the previous "normal sparks" were caught, but they had plenty of error.
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Anyway, take a look at what I'm trying to share...
The anomalous event is so fast, the camera never once caught it...just the sound and the "after flash". Yet the previous "normal sparks" were caught, but they had plenty of error.
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