johnd

Ive been doing some digging recently at some ou devices using tesla coils . I just had a bit of a brainwave and thought why not mix the two together , ie add a fuel cell to the tesla tech ?
This devise by don smith looks interesting (page 110-123)


And this replication of the Kapanadze by jean louise jaudin looks easy enough to do :
http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/index.htm

They would be no good for vehicles because they need an earth but might work on stationary applications ?
What do you think ?

John

Dont dig deeper than you already have , that thing is a scam

Thanks Dankie , there is a hell of a lot of disinfo on the net ey .

John

heres whats on my mind and where im at with my rotary vic project.. i ran out of wire when i was winding my coils and had to wait for some work to get more wire. yesterday i ordered some double sided copper clad for my diode board, some insulating paper, and some more wire..  i am using 27 gauge and will have 30 winds secondary and 30 winds for each bifilars..  this will give me a total of 90 per cavity.. i have a big alternator like stans and i am hopping that 90 total will not be to much...

john, did u have a hard time getting 47 in the cavity or did you find you still had room? i would rather take the time to reduce the winds now rather then later if i need to...

Definately had room for more , but obviously it depends on the stator . You need to be able to fit 2 loops in one channel the way Kevin does it (trailing edge of last loop and leading edge of next loop) .
John

I think the cheapest and easiest way for pulse width modulation or signal generation is just shelling out 150 dollars for a decent lab grade unit. If I had known this before I bought the Lawton circuit for the same price, I would have gone with a nice one with tons of options and an LED readout. I found one on eBay for 130 not too long ago. The Lawton circuit works great too, I just like the extra bells and whistles. Unless your replicating, how the signal is generated is really not an issue.

Unless you want to fit the unit in a car 

thanks steve , good stuff .......That looks like quite a project for an electronics dummy like me

Hello , im new to the forum . Ive been fiddling about with hho for well over a year now and still not managed to produce much gas . Ive made a lawton pwm and messed about with transformers and vic's . Ive moded a quare wave as per kevin west but neither seems to quite cut it . Has anyone got a schematic of a pwm without the duty cycle problems of the lawton circuit ? Ive rewired an alternator the same as kevin too and it puts out 500v when my cell isnt connected but that goes down to about 50 with the cell on .
Cheers
John

Hello , just started fiddling again after some time out . Ive got one of tony's 8XA circuits which ive been playing about with using various chokes that i had lying around . How do you size the chokes properly though ?

John

Do you mean you would wire the stator phases like this ? :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4188222835/

Im using distilled water . Tried using the caps and inductors but it made no difference . I think Kevin has been getting some great results . If i produced the same amount of gas i would be happy .

this is the setup :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4187689843/

im putting a square wave into the alternator ( kevin west's mod) , infact its totaly the same setup , same wave but no gas . He has no idea why either ??
Im getting about 100v 1a out with the cell connected . Im totally flumoxed

Im getting a great waveform out now but still no gas !!!! grrrrrrr !!!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4187143663/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4187910092/

Any idea's ?

the pictures didnt show on the last post for some reason :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172832598/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172077279/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172833904/

I just tried the other configeration but produced no more gas than straight into a bridge  . Im not saying i did it correct but spent all day making some small triflar inductors to put in the alternator with 1n5408 diodes ....
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172835144/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172832598/)
It aint pretty but neither am i lol ...
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172077279/)
nothing exciting on the scope ....
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/45482143@N08/4172833904/)
oh well ....

Thanks donald , i read that thread , very interesting . Mine is done very similar to the first drawing but it would be quite easy to modify it to the second one . Mine is a delco remy and have 47 winds per loop , 13 loops per phase going into a full bridge .
Do you know how big and how many winds per choke ? And would they be triflar ?
I havent had the same results as kevin which is frustrating , the only difference on mine is the resistor size (i have some on order ) and im using de ionised water instead of distilled (also on order ) . Distilled water used to be everywhere but its really hard to find in the uk now for some reason , its all just deionised .
I should have them by the weekend and really cant wait to try them ...... fingers crossed

Many thanks for the reply's . Im off on holiday tomorrow , but when i   come back im going to have a go at replicating scott cramtons cell .   Apparantly he is getting 6lpm @1 amp pulsing an alternator . Its   constructed the same as meyers demo cell with the slots to make the tube   pairs resonate .
  If i can generate 6lpm it should be enough to run a petrol generator ...... happy days .

Many thanks for the reply's . Im off on holiday tomorrow , but when i   come back im going to have a go at replicating scott cramtons cell .   Apparantly he is getting 6lpm @1 amp pulsing an alternator . Its   constructed the same as meyers demo cell with the slots to make the tube   pairs resonate .
If i can generate 6lpm it should be enough to run a petrol generator ...... happy days .

There   are construction plans on Patric Kelly's site if anyone is interested .   The site is well worth looking at if you have an interest in free   energy :
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

           scott cramton design starts on page 39

John

Hello , im trying to find out how much gas you can get from 1litre of water . I read it somewhere a while ago but cant find it . Anyone know ?
Cheers
John

Still wanna get rid of those bubbles eh? Maybe you would like to try ultrasonics?



Bubz

Now that is interesting !!! Thanks for the link bubz

was you using red led's with your cell ?
Dynodon mentioned water was pumped through the resonant cavity . I wonder if this helped or if it was just to take the milky water to the plugs ?
Whatever we do though , 1/4 lpm is no where near enough production . I might just bite the bullet and rewire my stator like donald and outlaw .

John

Well ive done a few more tests but they have been slightly disapointing . The first was a lpm test which was only about a 1/4 lpm  . Then i got some tubes and covered 2 with heat shrink insulation and 2 without ..... The tubes without the heatshrink seemed to produce more ! The last test was puting a big bifilar choke between the alternator and the cell . This raised the voltage from 25 v to 100 v ish but produced less gas ....... sigh ......

John