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Water powered 1 cyl riding mower engine has alternators, and electric start starter. You tube 2008 2 videos by S1R9A9M9 . About 7 peak amps current (not average amps,) at about 15 % duty cycle , and requiring about 110v DC to zero ohms resistance spark plug . Water flow slowly into carb, with choke. MUST BE APPLIED THROUGH CARB VACUUM TO WORK. Georgia technicians converted several car engines back in 2005-2008. Spark plug electrolysis, without separate cell. There is also some water vapor creating pressure to push piston , of polarized charge ions separating from each other during piston movement, along with small amount Hydrogen gas. . Timing must be changed ATDC to about -34 degrees. Must be magnetic field applied to plug cable, and electromagnet with current .Web site shut down. I copied tech data so as could review later. Nathren got himself in trouble with other's accidents of reproducing, and won't talk any more. He either used Inverter box with series inductors + diodes, or just hand wound electromagnet with separate hand wound step up pulse transformer for the 110v. Alternators together with one diode for pulsing on+ off DC as about 8 amps dc at idle speed after starting. To start, without alternator on, vibrating relay used to get vibrating contacts for the 12v battery. After the Briggs 18hp engine running, him and son disconnected the car battery, so as self running on the 12 magnets alternators. Flywheel goes around 360 degrees. On time POWER only about 15-34% of the time. Electromagnet called the S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly. See photos on internet. The shop technicians did not publish report, since the car engines were slightly rough running, and the special commercial relays were no longer available to purchase. I had figured out , they were using the wrong inverter type box. There are 3 types of inverters to change to DC. Square wave, modified square wave, and pure sine wave. The modified one does not deal properly with INDUCTORS , as inside their relay. They should have used the more expensive pure sine wave box inverter. Alliexpress china is cheaper than Ebay/ Amazon.
Superimposed Voltage / Current passes Through!
Pulsing DC 40 volts, 15 amps, about 60 cycles, passing through 13Turn coil over steel core, going to separate load resistor, that has one line wire UNDERNEATH coil also, that is from different circuit of higher voltage, milliamps pulsing, at lower 15 cycles. This 2nd wire acts as a full loop circuit flux secondary side of STEP DOWN transformer of 13 to 1 ratio. Am I to assume this "automatic" secondary #12 gauge single line side has somewhat of an increased current passing through it also , to it's separate low ohms load resistance? (S1R9A9M9 Electromagnet as also being transformer means same time by induction )?
Pulsing DC 40 volts, 15 amps, about 60 cycles, passing through 13Turn coil over steel core, going to separate load resistor, that has one line wire UNDERNEATH coil also, that is from different circuit of higher voltage, milliamps pulsing, at lower 15 cycles. This 2nd wire acts as a full loop circuit flux secondary side of STEP DOWN transformer of 13 to 1 ratio. Am I to assume this "automatic" secondary #12 gauge single line side has somewhat of an increased current passing through it also , to it's separate low ohms load resistance? (S1R9A9M9 Electromagnet as also being transformer means same time by induction )?
S1R9A9M9 Reference Time Data Given
Important TIME LINE data here today, for the You tube videos of the Briggs engine that ran on water in Georgia.
June 24, 2008 summer. Successful 2 video demonstrations of 18HP Briggs mower engine running on water in carb. Son removes engine from shop and puts it in back yard with father on cement block with large holes for main shaft and other hidden items.. The shop technicians had reconfigured the water fuel system , not Nathren father who is not tech minded. ( from original web forum data sheets)
August 2008, two months later. The back porch scene Georgia, Nathren father, failed attempt to run same engine on water in carb, with JUST S1R9A9M9 coils assembly and resistance lightbulb load on battery. Helper holds camera . PROBABLY NOT the son , also Nathren, since he was a technician who worked on designs in work shop with the 2 other technicians. Son would have known about all parts used on Briggs engine to run it properly.
"The Smack" two videos were on the later December 2010 at Nathren's property. He got donations for charges incurred for the 1000mile trip. Just another young mechanic guy who thinks he knows everything. Several common tests were not done with the Briggs engine at that time. Engine again, not running on water. Son not present.
February 7, 2011. Nathren senior attempts to disassemble engine and discovers rust from engine setting too long , from 2008. Piston cylinder scored and valve(s) stuck. This proves engine would not run from Aug 2008 + Dec2010.
Conclusion : Briggs engine not proven could not run on Hydrogen gas derived from spark plug electrolysis and water vapor pressure from repulsion of ions. Original extra parts such as Inverter + special Relay, alternators hook up, were NOT put back on engine for proper RETESTING, and would not have worked any way due to NO available engine COMPRESSION
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Another Simulated "Magic" Relay Construction-
April Update New S1R Construction Relay Improvement Box -
Today finished recent build for ANOTHER Georgia Relay simulation with improvements built in. Larger Carlon sealable box, similar to the small one. Original was from 2008 Georgia.
(1) Dual inputs option High volts positive or negative. (2) Option inputs 110v DC positive or negative (3) added Tesla magnetic spark gap with copper foil extra conduction + containment than just vacuum. (4) Full vacuum chamber for containment and transfer of Radiant Energy to spark plug. (5) original relay had one diode for emittance. This one has 4 in parallel.(6) The 3 inductors are exact as 1.75mhenry as originals, as 18-gauge wire , and are in proper orientation as end-to-end matching. There is no confliction during hi volts pulse as there are always 2 open unused pin terminals on top cover of 5 total. This is a series type circuit with ignition pulse entering exactly at diodes.
I was also contemplating about small amount of Browns gas as electrified water vapor pressure as charged ions of water vapor repelling and forming pressure for engine piston, as well as the hydrogen gas formed and exploding. Battery DC does not make Browns gas. A power supply type dc as pulses is required. What do you think? The Georgia technicians mentioned about bench tests of charged water vapor on edge of metal sheet. Nathren senior looked on and saw that, to report on the forum. Another paragraph commented on water vapor contributing to engine running.
The 2008 converted Briggs engine was running (water in carb) at idle speed, most likely with hidden dual coils relay as part of the contribution of efficiency. 110v DC 7 amps applied with ignition for spark plug electrolysis to Hydrogen gas. You tube videos S1R9A9M9.
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Source Derivation of Original S1R9A9M9 Triple Coils Assembly
I made up paper folders for the different sections of S1R project. Today informing you about the 3 main components of the mower engine conversion of 2008, and reasons why. I'm going with the flow. The technicians in Georgia work shop did all the tinkering. Nathren senior is a non technical person. Long ago, I was the one who told you about the Briggs on board Dual alternators, running on 12 permanent magnets. Nathren said there weren't any. I found photo of the alternators wire harness behind starter showing as being present. With car battery removed , after starter use, there has to be source of electrical power.Now it is reasonably assumed the new mower engine is converted same way as the cars, with Inverter + Relay. The dimensions of relay allow fit inside plastic tub sideways, with S1r coil.
The technicians had earlier did a test in engine compartment about a hand wound electromagnet. That was called the 60 turns coil test. I sent you paper on that. 20 amps battery DC current flows through wire coil 60 turns OVER PLUG WIRE with steel core with amp gauge and resistor load. When ignition fires, the gauge momentary drops to 12 amps. 60% balance amps in electromagnet due to the ignition line inducing reactance ohms into the low volts line. By viewing on their oscilloscope, the TIME extension of spark was realized.
Now, in general, the magnetic field is in direct proportion to amps current within the same LENGTH coil. So the maximum amps from alternators as 15AMPS DC full wave rectified is divided up for 4.4A SEPARATE electromagnet to load resistor to ground, and 10.6 amps Inverter box primary side. Core steel nail or long screw was 3/16" at 3-4" long. 10.6+4.4 = 15 amps. So then reducing down the 20A to 4.4A is the SAME ratio 4.5 of winds. So 60 turns / 4.5 = "13" turns #16 gauge insulated wire S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
The #12-#14 bare copper wire was used as a FRAME SUPPORT for 90 degree 7 winds. The idea was to cause disruption interference with the ignition coil Magnetron to form longer on time for use with hydrogen fuel. 90 degrees and the lower magnetic field. CORE STEEL ONLY UNDER !3 TURNS as the electromagnet.
I did bench tests with neon bulbs graduated meter showing transfer of 90-200 volts induction to battery side coils. Some guys in forum grabbed the ends of low volts wires and got shocked. I also determined that bare wire cannot be used as shorting, "tick tick" noise and flash . This will cause uneven engine running. Insulated 16 gauge wire also shorted occasionally. I finally used 10KV white china high voltage cable to stop the shorts.
The conversion process needs an edge for efficiency. The car conversions worked, so to put it on video, the Briggs engine should work the same way. Nathren senior, shorted out the Green inverter box and left it in the videos. He said Inverter not used. Another smaller wattage unit was used for videos and probably hidden in cement block hole or underneath in ground hole. 100 volts is required for the tiny spark plug electrodes.
The Magic Relays, per cylinder, most likely were giving off Radiant Energy on each of the engines. High volts hits diode cathode . Diode shuts off. Plug fires, then diode on, releasing Radiant Energy. Data was from the alternate energy forum on Internet. The Relays perfect sealed chamber full vacuum allowed no dispersion of energy waves into air. The extra new energy follows circuit to spark plugs.
The triple coils is hooked up, through, from one end to the other end. In that regard your Megatran drawing is CORRECT. The old Georgia forum stated that it was just easier to wind 3 separate wire coils, with joint. Based on my drawing scenarios, the numbers 5 and 1 line, 7, and 13 turns are correct. The field was to slightly only adjust for late timing past TDC to get about 7 PEAK amps. Longer on time in milliseconds, past about 15% duty cycle, would lower the Peak pulse amps. The Georgia tech people said about 7 amps current was best for spark plug at about .080" gap , and the eventual slower eroding of electrodes. Please write back so I know you got my message.
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I made up paper folders for the different sections of S1R project. Today informing you about the 3 main components of the mower engine conversion of 2008, and reasons why. I'm going with the flow. The technicians in Georgia work shop did all the tinkering. Nathren senior is a non technical person. Long ago, I was the one who told you about the Briggs on board Dual alternators, running on 12 permanent magnets. Nathren said there weren't any. I found photo of the alternators wire harness behind starter showing as being present. With car battery removed , after starter use, there has to be source of electrical power.Now it is reasonably assumed the new mower engine is converted same way as the cars, with Inverter + Relay. The dimensions of relay allow fit inside plastic tub sideways, with S1r coil.
The technicians had earlier did a test in engine compartment about a hand wound electromagnet. That was called the 60 turns coil test. I sent you paper on that. 20 amps battery DC current flows through wire coil 60 turns OVER PLUG WIRE with steel core with amp gauge and resistor load. When ignition fires, the gauge momentary drops to 12 amps. 60% balance amps in electromagnet due to the ignition line inducing reactance ohms into the low volts line. By viewing on their oscilloscope, the TIME extension of spark was realized.
Now, in general, the magnetic field is in direct proportion to amps current within the same LENGTH coil. So the maximum amps from alternators as 15AMPS DC full wave rectified is divided up for 4.4A SEPARATE electromagnet to load resistor to ground, and 10.6 amps Inverter box primary side. Core steel nail or long screw was 3/16" at 3-4" long. 10.6+4.4 = 15 amps. So then reducing down the 20A to 4.4A is the SAME ratio 4.5 of winds. So 60 turns / 4.5 = "13" turns #16 gauge insulated wire S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
The #12-#14 bare copper wire was used as a FRAME SUPPORT for 90 degree 7 winds. The idea was to cause disruption interference with the ignition coil Magnetron to form longer on time for use with hydrogen fuel. 90 degrees and the lower magnetic field. CORE STEEL ONLY UNDER !3 TURNS as the electromagnet.
I did bench tests with neon bulbs graduated meter showing transfer of 90-200 volts induction to battery side coils. Some guys in forum grabbed the ends of low volts wires and got shocked. I also determined that bare wire cannot be used as shorting, "tick tick" noise and flash . This will cause uneven engine running. Insulated 16 gauge wire also shorted occasionally. I finally used 10KV white china high voltage cable to stop the shorts.
The conversion process needs an edge for efficiency. The car conversions worked, so to put it on video, the Briggs engine should work the same way. Nathren senior, shorted out the Green inverter box and left it in the videos. He said Inverter not used. Another smaller wattage unit was used for videos and probably hidden in cement block hole or underneath in ground hole. 100 volts is required for the tiny spark plug electrodes.
The Magic Relays, per cylinder, most likely were giving off Radiant Energy on each of the engines. High volts hits diode cathode . Diode shuts off. Plug fires, then diode on, releasing Radiant Energy. Data was from the alternate energy forum on Internet. The Relays perfect sealed chamber full vacuum allowed no dispersion of energy waves into air. The extra new energy follows circuit to spark plugs.
The triple coils is hooked up, through, from one end to the other end. In that regard your Megatran drawing is CORRECT. The old Georgia forum stated that it was just easier to wind 3 separate wire coils, with joint. Based on my drawing scenarios, the numbers 5 and 1 line, 7, and 13 turns are correct. The field was to slightly only adjust for late timing past TDC to get about 7 PEAK amps. Longer on time in milliseconds, past about 15% duty cycle, would lower the Peak pulse amps. The Georgia tech people said about 7 amps current was best for spark plug at about .080" gap , and the eventual slower eroding of electrodes. Please write back so I know you got my message.
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Update!
Data was finally found , about how to increase ignition volts on mower engine with SS Magnetron. It was a small parts set up from a Tesla US Patent. Yes, it adds a small inductor coil, diode, condenser, (capacitor) and wiring. One guy tested this and got 40KV on 50KV scale of ignition tester box. . Mower coils are usually 6-15KV . The conversion to Hydrogen requires firing at minimum 24KV or higher, for setting up the small plasma conduction path for the forthcoming heavier current to spark plug. Nathren in Georgia , about 2008, had said statement about implementing small Tesla circuit. This is in reference to the 2 Youtube videos of running 18HP Briggs engine on water in carb, - to hydrogen gas of spark plug electrolysis. There it is. There is Youtube video showing the bench set up to increase volts. My power supply on wood board is now complete for bench test of engine this spring. 7 amps average current from large wattage inverter box, but used on 17% dutycycle., as flywheel goes around per cycle.Their engines in Georgia did run, but unevenly, and they never figured it out why. They were using the wrong type Inverter box of 3 types. Inductors, as part of an electrical load require a pure sine wave type inverter . (2 inductors in relay) The secondary 110v side ALSO needs #gauge wire capable of 7 average amps flow. We know they had a 750watt Inverter box. The green 400W box was broken, and just left in the 2 videos as a distraction, cables not connected.. About 4 amps for the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet and about 11 amps for the inverter input side. Nathren said conversion took about 15 amps. THAT is max capability of the dual alternators on the Briggs 18HP engine. Main large battery is disconnected., after starter used. WHAT NATHREN PROBABLY MEANT, WHEN HE SAID THE ENGINE WOULD QUIT LATER WHEN BATTERY RAN DOWN, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DISCONNECTED CAR BATTERY. . HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL MILLIAMPS USE BATTERY FOR THE ADDED TESLA CIRCUIT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT BATTERY GROUND , SO AS KEEPING THE MAGNETRON WORKING. The side tab terminal on Magnetron is normally used to shut off lawnmower, by grounding the tab. A different flashlight battery pack has a different ground. What happens is, there is an increase in the back EMF of primary side, so as the ignition is raised up higher.in kv.?
Data was finally found , about how to increase ignition volts on mower engine with SS Magnetron. It was a small parts set up from a Tesla US Patent. Yes, it adds a small inductor coil, diode, condenser, (capacitor) and wiring. One guy tested this and got 40KV on 50KV scale of ignition tester box. . Mower coils are usually 6-15KV . The conversion to Hydrogen requires firing at minimum 24KV or higher, for setting up the small plasma conduction path for the forthcoming heavier current to spark plug. Nathren in Georgia , about 2008, had said statement about implementing small Tesla circuit. This is in reference to the 2 Youtube videos of running 18HP Briggs engine on water in carb, - to hydrogen gas of spark plug electrolysis. There it is. There is Youtube video showing the bench set up to increase volts. My power supply on wood board is now complete for bench test of engine this spring. 7 amps average current from large wattage inverter box, but used on 17% dutycycle., as flywheel goes around per cycle.Their engines in Georgia did run, but unevenly, and they never figured it out why. They were using the wrong type Inverter box of 3 types. Inductors, as part of an electrical load require a pure sine wave type inverter . (2 inductors in relay) The secondary 110v side ALSO needs #gauge wire capable of 7 average amps flow. We know they had a 750watt Inverter box. The green 400W box was broken, and just left in the 2 videos as a distraction, cables not connected.. About 4 amps for the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet and about 11 amps for the inverter input side. Nathren said conversion took about 15 amps. THAT is max capability of the dual alternators on the Briggs 18HP engine. Main large battery is disconnected., after starter used. WHAT NATHREN PROBABLY MEANT, WHEN HE SAID THE ENGINE WOULD QUIT LATER WHEN BATTERY RAN DOWN, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DISCONNECTED CAR BATTERY. . HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL MILLIAMPS USE BATTERY FOR THE ADDED TESLA CIRCUIT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT BATTERY GROUND , SO AS KEEPING THE MAGNETRON WORKING. The side tab terminal on Magnetron is normally used to shut off lawnmower, by grounding the tab. A different flashlight battery pack has a different ground. What happens is, there is an increase in the back EMF of primary side, so as the ignition is raised up higher.in kv.?
This 2008 video is an offshute of the earlier car engine conversions of spark plug electrolysis in Georgia . It is assumed, the same method was applied to the lawn mower engine here. The plastic tub holds the electromagnet putting field over plug wire to retard the timing , for use with hydrogen gas. Also in there is the dual coils relay for use with ONLY the interior 2 inductors and center diode. It is believed the vacuum sealed relay forms RADIANT ENERGY that benefits the firings. RE not escape because of no air, and follows wiring to plug. The 110v AC to Dc inverter (hidden in cement block rear hole ) sends 7 amps peak current as 2.6 amps average DC current through zero ohm Champion spark plug just AFTER the high volts pulse. The Magnetron trigger is aided by an added on, put together Patent TESLA small circuit that increases the Primary back emf , so as the secondary side gives way higher ignition volts, about 24KV as needed. Lawn mower ignition needs to be boosted up as equal to auto ignition coils. Uneven engine runnings during 2005-2008, was allieviated when adding in EGR for the Nitrogen content. Also the Inverter box should be changed to pure sine wave type,- not modified square wave type as commonly used, as not good with inductive electrical loads. The Briggs engine was self running on the ring , dual alternators under flywheel. The small flashlight battery pack for the ignition modification only used milliamps. The large car battery was only there for the starter motor, then completely disconnected. Low power conversion, but 18HP shown as working. The green Inverter in video background was broken and just left in video. That's why man said inverter WAS NOT USED in the 2 successful 2008 You Tube videos of S1R9A9M9.?
The Hefferlin manuscript was regarding steam to Hydrogen engine using high frequency. Back in those days , 1921-late 1940's, high frequency + high volts was only related to the famous high voltage Tesla coil. The extreme vibrations antagonized the molecules to separate very easily in heated chamber. The modern Patent reference I cited was to show that a particular frequency was relied on to make efficient hydrogen fuel gases from steam. Samuel Leach, 1970's Patents 4148701, 4113589,4247379,4272345 - special composite coating in chamber inside emits frequency when heated, extracts Hydrogen from steam. Newsweek April 19, 1976, Sam Leach's box pg78.
Tesla coils can be made/adjusted for many frequencies output. The secondary tube is made first and accurately adjusted. The Primary is then tuned to to that one. Early models were spark gap and capacitor type. Nowdays they can be solid state firings of secondary. Back issue Electronics magazines have articles.
The S1R9A9M9 Georgia engines conversions had used only AUTOLITE brand spark plugs with solid COPPER ROD center. There are many part numbers, but most are with internal resistor of about 4000 ohms. The AUTOLITE 295 is ZERO ohms, non resistor type, and not iridium type, as recently tested by me. This validates the Georgia electrical circuit as being able to pass the 7 Peak AMPS Current through spark plugs.
My Horvath Patent power Supply as beefed up CDI for powering the separate water cell is just about done. Fans being hooked up to keep China Inverter transistors / heatsink cooled. The end transformer TR2 with battery cable needs to be wound. 30 turns #12 and 3 turns #6. Photo to be sent later. I have been ordering parts for the aquarium box cell, as fittings gauges, special switches, etc.
Time to change the wall calendar! Happy Holidays!?
Tesla coils can be made/adjusted for many frequencies output. The secondary tube is made first and accurately adjusted. The Primary is then tuned to to that one. Early models were spark gap and capacitor type. Nowdays they can be solid state firings of secondary. Back issue Electronics magazines have articles.
The S1R9A9M9 Georgia engines conversions had used only AUTOLITE brand spark plugs with solid COPPER ROD center. There are many part numbers, but most are with internal resistor of about 4000 ohms. The AUTOLITE 295 is ZERO ohms, non resistor type, and not iridium type, as recently tested by me. This validates the Georgia electrical circuit as being able to pass the 7 Peak AMPS Current through spark plugs.
My Horvath Patent power Supply as beefed up CDI for powering the separate water cell is just about done. Fans being hooked up to keep China Inverter transistors / heatsink cooled. The end transformer TR2 with battery cable needs to be wound. 30 turns #12 and 3 turns #6. Photo to be sent later. I have been ordering parts for the aquarium box cell, as fittings gauges, special switches, etc.
Time to change the wall calendar! Happy Holidays!?
Amazing Stories v20n06 (1946 09.Ziff Davis)(cape1736)
Invention was kept away from the Germans during WW2. Short tech data published in Sept 1946 Amazing stories magazine, Now on internet free read. Frequency setting was 1.3Mhtz Tesla Coil high frequency, to break up molecules of water to fuel gases in chamber. Modern US Patent was interior coated heat exchanger with steam entry. The coating emits 1.3Mhtz . Engine runs on water to hydrogen. Waste exhaust heat boils water. "Burn water For Fuel"
The Hefferlin Manuscript.?
Invention was kept away from the Germans during WW2. Short tech data published in Sept 1946 Amazing stories magazine, Now on internet free read. Frequency setting was 1.3Mhtz Tesla Coil high frequency, to break up molecules of water to fuel gases in chamber. Modern US Patent was interior coated heat exchanger with steam entry. The coating emits 1.3Mhtz . Engine runs on water to hydrogen. Waste exhaust heat boils water. "Burn water For Fuel"
The Hefferlin Manuscript.?
The Meyer Hydrogen system is the 2nd best invention since bench top Cold Nuclear Fusion Heat. HHO is really H+ H+ O-- as charged ions. The gases have more energy total. The Patented Meyer term is Thermo explosive Energy. There were 3 systems. proof of design, concentric tubes water cell, and multi use injectors with electrons extraction, lasers and pulsed high voltage,- at pulse modulation. There are more gases evolved during off time as the on time. See Stan Meyer company manuals as,- Birth of new technology and Water Fuel Cell dealership Manual. Many Patents. The resultant true Meyer cell has thick, tiny, tiny, FOAM rising upwards in cell. All the rest is H2 with water vapor/ and or electrified water vapor large bubbles. Voltrolysis as >1500volts DC in plain distilled water.Deionized water was better. Two inductors resonated with cell and power source. Input secondary pulse through inductor to water capacitor as lowered volts to PREALIGN polarity water molecules. Then high volts DURING OFF TIME with vibration separates with no current, voltage pressure. Diodes make hydrogen, AC makes heated/ water. Very low wattage input. Overunity as huge efficiency. Power for engines and factory blast furnaces.
Mower Converted Water/Hydrogen
Those engines converted in Georgia 2005-2008, as I said before, had used electrolysis at spark plug at over 100volts dc for the hydrogen generated, but had also used BROWN'S Gas. Some people don't know about that. With a pulsed type DC power supply there is an electrical charge put on water vapor that also produces pressure due to expansion of like polarity gas. Both together form the piston pressure that runs the engine. The circuit also used Radiant Energy from the vacuum chamber Bakelite dual coils + diode that enhanced the reaction. The dual alternators on the mower engine ran electrical circuit on the built in 12 magnets providing AC when shaft is turned. The converted car engines used 2 batteries with alternator charging both during driving. Later, It was found that EGR Nitrogen added to engine increased efficiency further. Tech data taken, copied, from original web forum , now shut down.
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Mower engine Ran On Hydrogen From Water 2008
Another update conversion parts. Made replacement for the original Georgia special Relays they used back then , as vacuumed box chamber with 2 inductors, diodes and Tesla magnetic spark gap. Radiant energy to emit from 2 points. Inverter to DC power supply also completed + protection diodes bank + P.W.M. controller. Just finished the water tank processor with tiny bubbles air pump and magnetic polarization of plastic water line with neodymium magnets. Easier to extract hydrogen with electrolysis with H +H +O as polarized with the 106 degree angle shifted to 108 degrees.These are improvements to the conversion done back in 2005-2008.Engine casting insulated from bat neg , so as no interference with expensive Inverter box pure sine wave. Ignition changed to positive High volts only. The Briggs engine has no adjustment for timing , so as the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet provides field over plug wire as going up to late 34 degrees ATDC. The shut down web site had no replacement for the relays , so no completed circuit was released to the public. Took me 3 months to get the sealed box configured. Ohms law formula always used. The 6 stage project nearing completion. Manifold vacuum action causes volatility of water vapor and with the polarization, forms vapor pressure that aids the hydrogen combustion pressure. (Browns gas) The required embedded 78% Nitrogen added to water aids the Hydrogen burning process. It's also in the exhaust gases, - "EGR" The S1R9A9M9 method of spark plug electrolysis had several cars converted , lower power output , of course, but only Briggs engine was put on video. The shop tech's kept their own records, only Nathren put data on the web forum that I copied. In the 2 You tube 2008 videos, the engine was started with battery, battery removed, then the dual alternators under flywheel ran the circuit. Check out what a water engine sounds like. Questions?
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The DC generator is mounted under flywheel of all Briggs riding lawn mowers engines. On the S1R9A9M9 engine of 2008, it had what what called DUAL ALTERNATORS. The red and black wire is actually (2) separate AC alternators output. The opposite ends of the coils are grounded under the plastic ring under the flywheel. Black is AC power, not a ground wire. The 2 AC wires extend to rectification to recharge battery or provide power to extra circuit. It is UNUSUAL to use the 2 wires at same time for same purpose, instead of headlights + charging line. The flywheel contains 13 permanent magnets. 12 for the generator and 1 for the ignition. No input is used to run generator or ignition other than turning crankshaft. When hydrogen gas fuel is made at spark plug , the engine starts running. The battery was used for the starter motor only, then completely shut off. Power to make electrolysis is then coming from generator at idle speed. Salt water is allowed to flow into top of carb from hose + bottle. Diodes needed to get DC to make low efficiency electrolysis of water. Fuel gas forms at tips of spark plug and fires same time. The added wire coil changes the timing ,as is needed with hydrogen. The spark plug receives what is called pulse PEAK DC current as about 10A. Spark plug was changed to Champion QC12YC at 125 ohms , rather than original 4000ohms resistance. They also come apart to remove resistor to get a Zero ohms racing plug. ( copper #12 wire segment replacement)
You can verify an old used engine would just run by adding 70% alcohol, or acetylene gas from carbide stones + water added, or also Ether spray into carb. The sound of Nathren's water engine on hydrogen from 2008 sounds like a water pump. Youtube (2 )videos by S1R9A9M9
You can verify an old used engine would just run by adding 70% alcohol, or acetylene gas from carbide stones + water added, or also Ether spray into carb. The sound of Nathren's water engine on hydrogen from 2008 sounds like a water pump. Youtube (2 )videos by S1R9A9M9
The shop in Georgia had converted several cars , as 4,6,8 cylinder engines on mineral water. They all had standard alternators. The one most talked about was the 1978 Chevy ElCamino V8 running on mineral water. There was a separate 2nd battery used to run the Inverter box . The alternator charged both batteries with diode isolation box. For off idle power, the main jet in carb is re drilled about 33% larger. The car reported to get 18MPG water, but after later reusing some of the waste exhaust drippings, the mileage went way higher , due to the addition of Nitrogen embedded in the expelled water. Smother running engine also. The other v8 on engine stand was running electrical power generator 24 hours always on. The regular alternator recharged battery, and the GENERATOR provided free electricity for work shop. Data taken from the now shut down web forum. Spark plug electrolysis for hydrogen gas + water vapor pressure.
Proper Car Engine Power For S1R9A9M9 Conversion
This message is in regards to the Georgia conversions on the earlier 4,6, 8-cylinder engines , 2005-2008) used with mineral water. The shop had worked on a hundred adjustments for years , trying to get it right. They talked about surging, rough engines, and some actual improvement came when it was Nathren (father) who was the only one who noticed about EGR being used on the better running engines.
I had made up a list of possibilities of minor changes that I had never submitted to them, possibly they never thought of.
I wanted to tell you about one of those on the list. The Georgia techs used the same Inverter box on each car with the matching relays per cylinder, to make use of the inductors and diodes. Now,....... There are several types of Inverters 110v AC output. (I prefer the 220v units as diodes bank loses about 10 volts)
There is the low frequency 60 cycles as modified corrected sine wave (square waves).
The 500W 20khz high frequency open board China Inverters with multiple outputs.
The 500-600W 60 cycles pure sine wave circuit Inverter unit.
The 1000W Blue box Tataliken brand 12v to 220v from China direct Aliexpress $27.92 on sale. Pure sine wave.
The specs sheet is important. See also not saying 250W continuous power 500W peak. Read the fine print. You want the 500W as general use continuous. This is so you can get a higher amps value as peak. (Average amps used is low)
Why this is important is because Inverters also give a specification for Peak, temporary current under 40% duty cycle. Such as 400W to 800W with an associated peak amps pulse current. The cheaper quality Inverters are mostly modified/corrected sine wave. What that means is, not quality repeatable same peak current in fast pulses. It is now assumed that the Georgia techs needed to change their input power to Pure Sine Wave , more costly Inverters. It has to do with type of electrical load as resistive, inductive, etc. They had never , over the years finally corrected the engine running problem. Also, source to purchase exact special relays never found. They had been using the Green Inverter box Power On Board 400watts, modified sine wave, 12vDC to 110v AC.
Most people don't take the time to read all messages on subject. They don't like long paragraphs. There were 2 demonstrations back in 2008 regarding mower engine running at idle speed on salt water. The battery supplied amps for start only. The idle RPM dual alternators supplied up to15 amps for conversion circuit. Alternators + ignition self running by 12 +1 magnets and crankshaft rotation. . The Ignition coil on a Briggs engine is called a Magnetron (with SS trigger). The S1R coils assembly does 3 things. Am ample increase in high voltage, extension of timing from TDC to -34 degrees ATDC, and applying mild magnetism to spark plug electrodes. The added Inverter box supplies additional power 120v AC to DC , about 10Amps Peak pulse Amps to spark plug. This circuit was used by the tech people on all the earlier car engines tested . Those used also a special relay per cylinder. The S1R coils replaces the unabtainable obsolete 60 cycles traffic signals control relays. Approx 4A to electromagnet coils over plug wire, and 11 amps to primary side of Inverter, for 15 A Max 12-14v DC from alternators full wave DC. The mower circuit also used an inductor of 1.75millihenry , and extra required spark gap. The plastic housing had room for 1 relay . There was talk about the relay diode joint with high volts entrance point forming Radiant Energy that may have increased conversion efficiency. The Vacuum sealed relay stops loss of RF in ambiant air. The salt water and 120v DC at plug forms hydrogen gas and fires same time. (spark plug electrolysis) There was also water vapor pressure contributing to the piston compression. There are several US Patents on same thing, going way back in time. Low engine power output but usable, as for instance operating an electrical 120v AC power generator. The tech people said a higher HP engine required by ratio to add a generator requiring certain HP. Ohm's laws still in effect.
You can make a pop gun from firing capacitor into salt water in a large plastic syringe. The plunger will shoot out + hit the wall. Electrolysis of water for Hydrogen gas and fire same time. Insert 2 screws close together at the compression end of syringe with water. Keep the whole board. Use battery to run the charger circuit for the capacitor. (Use instead of lighting up a flash lamp.) Man from Philippines did this awhile back.. Another man discharged 500uf capacitor charged from several hundred volts supply, into mower engine spark plug. Salt water was put on end electrodes. When fired as electrolysis, it forms hydrogen gas and fires plug same time. His engine crankshaft turned over one revolution. Bench test was repeated. There are regular electrolytic caps and also whats called photo flash type which are called low ESR. These type discharge faster, less internal heating, and release more energy in one blast.
The Horvath US Patent showed how to run electrolysis cell on capacitor discharges which ended up as 30v + 200 pulse amps to electrodes in electrolyte, at 10khz.. Full schematic and parts list. Car ran on water.
Have you heard about the used oil furnace from 1950's that ran on water? Patent was issued to army service men in Texas for only adding the initial water line to T fitting for used oil burner on used jeep engine oil, to get 50% increase in efficiency. That was not what was written in their application for Patent. SS coil tubing in brick insulated firepot of oil burner hooked to input common water line. Oil furnace started. Temperature gauge monitored for temp up to 1500 degrees F. Then valve opened so as superheated steam is allowed in T fitting with oil to tiny nozzle. Nice burn flame runs constant. Then oil line was quickly shut off. Furnace still runs. Shock wave from 90 lbs pressure to zero AMBIENT in fire-pot forms Hydrogen and Oxygen torch flame that also heats heat ex changer. Normally water molecules separate at about 3000-6000 degrees which is too much energy. The vibration shock wave allows for disassociation at lower temperature. Electric motor with dual shafts ran 2 oil pumps at 90lbs. If input water shut off, and cooled down, then furnace has to be restarted on oil. A much smaller unit in crate was shown to a US senator in Washington building underground parking , as an open trunk display. This was somewhat similar to the propane operated camping stove with circular pores, vertical round fire brick insulated chimney, and interior SS tubing of initial water. When steam introduced to T fitting, the fuel used was shut down leaving burning circular torch flames. It probably used minerals free distilled water so as nozzle would not clog. (US Patent office not allow for over unity for public.- Free Energy is eliminated in issued US Patents. US- 1958, 2,863,499.
The water furnace did not have water or steam mixed with fuel oil. The heat ex-changer in brick highly insulated fire pot , was brought up to =/> 1500 degrees F. Oil removed when steam valve was opened. This was a new science phenomena when the shock wave broke up the H20 molecule at the unusual lowered temperature. Read paragraph again. The US Patent issued was NOT what was asked for in the complete application manuscript in 1950. Patent said steam mixed with fuel oil.
The water furnace did not have water or steam mixed with fuel oil. The heat ex-changer in brick highly insulated fire pot , was brought up to =/> 1500 degrees F. Oil removed when steam valve was opened. This was a new science phenomena when the shock wave broke up the H20 molecule at the unusual lowered temperature. Read paragraph again. The US Patent issued was NOT what was asked for in the complete application manuscript in 1950. Patent said steam mixed with fuel oil.
Fraud, Truth, And Antigravity Of John Keely Late 1800's
The Keely old documents also told of 4 demonstrations of antigravity. Triple heavy sirens on steel base that lifted when self induced inharmonic vibrations applied raised up the mass. The other was a hollow brass sphere that was floated with wire attached as thermopile of silver, gold, platinum . The third was 2 ton steel high pressure sphere tank that was lifted up onto a metal stand. - -That had an array of tuning forks that transmitted vibrations in thirds ratio to same triple wires to mass . Resonant frequency chord , with inharmonics thirds in ratio. People present in late 1800's that saw that demonstration signed affidavits to that effect. The fourth was a platform with operator on chair that lifted upwards by harmonic vibrations that was demonstrated to the US War department, as it was called back then.
Keely had one U.S. Patent issued on dual use flywheel and sold one invention to firm out west to vibrate inside wall of gold mine , so as to easily pick up material without heavy , hard digging.
The Keely old documents also told of 4 demonstrations of antigravity. Triple heavy sirens on steel base that lifted when self induced inharmonic vibrations applied raised up the mass. The other was a hollow brass sphere that was floated with wire attached as thermopile of silver, gold, platinum . The third was 2 ton steel high pressure sphere tank that was lifted up onto a metal stand. - -That had an array of tuning forks that transmitted vibrations in thirds ratio to same triple wires to mass . Resonant frequency chord , with inharmonics thirds in ratio. People present in late 1800's that saw that demonstration signed affidavits to that effect. The fourth was a platform with operator on chair that lifted upwards by harmonic vibrations that was demonstrated to the US War department, as it was called back then.
Keely had one U.S. Patent issued on dual use flywheel and sold one invention to firm out west to vibrate inside wall of gold mine , so as to easily pick up material without heavy , hard digging.