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How to increase number of turns for same value magnetic field strength 12 volt electromagnet of original 10amps DC + 7 turns and 13 turns, being changed to 6 amps DC worth of SAME magnetic field? (Simple proportions always come out for less turns.) It uses copper core of 7 turns connected to 13 turns 4mm rod steel core all on 10 amps. There is an electronics formula method that uses different constants for air, copper, steel, iron , and ferrite cores, that may not be needed. My guess calculation may be wrong. (I was thinking on 12 turns and 24 turns)

The way earlier Cold Fusion bench tests actually work, but have no precise controller mechanism. Set it up and wait. Those interested in that field should be looking in related areas of expertise of new techniques that could be applied. Check out the lab work of John W. Keely Philadelphia machine shop work of 1865-1899. Many books are available on his demonstrations of physics tests. I was impressed when he could make Hydrogen and Oxygen fuel gases easily from water with special harmonic vibrations applied with tuning fork array settings. Later, in the back of the Keely Discoveries book, he said that after a hundred expulsions of his resonance steel ball water chamber, there was gummy substance that he could not account for. Back in those days it was not generally known that 1 out of every 5000 molecules of water is Deuterium- Heavy Water, that has the constituency of glycerin!. The resonant frequency applied to chamber with ratio inharmonics did not affect the heavy water and had collected up in the chamber over time! Wow! See data available from S V P and the summery booklet of Keely's 3 original lab tech references called- The Snell Manuscript. He was a machinist, musician, and inventor of over 100 devices, and had the 5 Million dollar Keely Motor Company. Tesla didn't like Keely since Keely received more investors money than he did. I have about $500 in old documents over an 8 1/2 years study. There were about 500 of us studying Keely in the US. Lots of physics bench tests back then, such as attraction of same pole magnets, generation of 52 inches vacuum in hollow brass sphere in tray of mercury bath with open ended U manometer gauge, pulverization of granite block, self running fluid hydraulic rotating motor with 4 way valve generating 50lbs pressure water hammer, weight reduction demonstration of heavy steel pressure tank and Brass hollow globe, triple sirens on heavy base plate rises up and settles down with ratio of tone frequencies applied, generation of 23000 lbs pressure within 15 seconds of ETHER gas as proven on the lifting of weight on warehouse weigh scales. One US Patent was issued on dual use flywheel. The other rotating motor application was sent back because the investors names were not on it. His passing was noted in national newspapers and magazines but only listed the fake set ups found in upstairs rooms of his 2 floor building. He had researched and worked downstairs with array of tuning forks, logrithmic vibrating rods with series wires of silver, gold, and platinum as a transmitting wire with loops added to get multiplcation of frequencies in ratio. (We now call them thermocouples and thermopiles of differing metals. He wrote about his list of new laws in vibrational physics.

I studied the Horvath Patents for a long time,way back, and understand the circuits. A duplication does not need a new cast carburetor and machined spoked electrodes as in Patent. The Electrical circuit is just a beefed up capacitor discharge ignition for MAIN POWER, with improved efficiency electrolysis for hydrogen and oxygen at 40 amps, 450 watts battery draw. The spark plugs are changed to zero ohms racing type or just get Champion brand with same reach threads and remove resistor from top, and replace with bit of #12 copper wire segment. The gases flow from water safety can to a "spud in jet" as fitting on side of old 1 barrel carburetor at the venturi point. This beveled copper tube + farrow seal cap was also used on small engines on propane conversion without the expensive type kit purchase. Read Patent 3980053, then I can answer you about how it works. A 1994 Chevy Geo Metro 3 cylinder engine with fuel system injector replaced with a used, single barrel Carter carburetor would suffice. You make an aluminum plate adapter. It has a distributor that can be adjusted for timing. The Patent transformer core size was given, so as I had enlarged photo on copy machine to get size of other parts.Substitutes can be used when ordering parts as long as the necessary design systems are included. The on time of current pulses was 42 microseconds out of 100.. 1 / F = Period of frequency.10khz = 100 microseconds time. The duty cycle of oscillator was .006. (.6usec/100usec) 22 amps cap discharge = 300V DC X square root of 1microfarad / 185 microhenries coil of TR2 primary.. Frequency of pulses to SCR was 10,000 cycles. Tr1 FERRITE type transformer charges up the capacitor to 300v AC. Diodes added for full wave DC..Main capacitor HAS TO BE ONLY polypropylene 1MFD AT 1000 VOLTS DC type as LOW esr. The 22 was amps into primary of TR2. The secondary side was 10:1 ratio. The fast switch SCR is only the high frequency type like a GE model 35 amp. The reverse pulse on the primary side circuit of TR2 shuts off SCR inbetween pulses automatically. The 200A cell pulses creates more Hydrogen with the aid of magnetic field.The TR2 secondary uses NO DIODE RECTIFIER as the pulses ARE called "critical positive wave" with core as laminations, for the high frequency , instead of ferrite. This causes degraded pulse wave as positive DC. Get laminations from take apart microwave old transformer. You would build NARROW rectangle box of high temperature Gray pvc plates. . Two SS magnetic type plates and metal strips to add to each for spokes. The large Alnico or small multiple STRONG Neodymium magnets get taped to outside of box. N + S on opposite sides box. The cover gets holes for various brass fittings. Cut out rectangle rubber seal and drilled + tapped holes for cover screws.Magnetic Field is between the electrode strip gaps under water. The Oxygen and Hydrogen gaseous bubbles rise up and transfer to special brass wool type fast one way valve before entering the safety water can. Water cell should use baking soda with distilled water, so as no cleaning of container minerals build up. The Metro engine compartment is LARGE and has plenty room to work. Engine could also be put on engine stand, but you would need the Bell housing because the starter motor mounts there.. The car called Geo Metro XFI model with 3cyl did get the highest gas mileage of any car- 52MPG. In Canada it was called the Firefly. Don't forget to buy test meters such as LCR tester. The Analog type face + needle multimeters will measure volts at high frequency, not digital. Float valve attached to cover and small DC water pump, white plastic plug in breadboard for oscillator, ect, you get the idea. I have the sheet of proof reading corrections from poor Patent examiner mistakes.

The S1R9A9M9 car engine and lawn mower conversions to water in carbs back in 2005-2012, required what's called PLASMA PATH for the subsequent main energy going into the spark plugs. (To make it work) The Chevy V8 had a different, stronger, ignition coil called High Energy Ignition that was about 20-40Kv, instead of 10-15KV regular coil. A low high voltage does not allow extra, unusual, heavy current to pass through spark plugs. The Elcamino had this HEI built into the 1978 distributor cap. They then switched around the primary 2 wires so as the output would be positive, rather than regular negative high voltage. The special relays were then added per cylinder with input of both low and high volts + many exterior diodes. The 400Watt inverter changed the 110v AC to half wave DC using one diode, at about 45V DC. The car ran with lower power but about 18 miles per gallon of plain water. With the late timing and magnetic field that was added, The complete set up worked.

Then Nathren (S1R9A9M9) converted the Briggs 18HP riding mower engine to water, which is on the (2) 2008 You Tube videos. The common solid state trigger with (inductive type ignition) Magnetron coil on engine produced about 10kv while under compression. It's not enough to get the required PLASMA PATH for the forthcoming 10 amps current through spark plug. The added engine parts were enclosed in small plastic tub on side of engine. The hand wound S1R triple magnetic coils assembly, accessory spark gap, and other parts that would be needed for plasma path such as ---a peaking PF high volts capacitor across plug, OR high volts doubler circuit, OR 20kv blocking diode with small cap charge circuit to about 200v that would release fast energy through spark plug previewing the main 10 amps current. A CDI high volts type ignition cannot be used as the output is in Microseconds, while the spark plug electrolysis for Hydrogen requires Milliseconds time for contact of water with the current. These options would be better as it is best to only use the lowest voltage possible for the isolated power supply for the project. If using an extended length series diodes safety protection bank of 20-25KV, that requires a higher input from power supply to counter the larger voltage loss through diodes string. This is more data for those following this issue.

A successful conversion of a small mower engine to run on water in carburetor, is based on several actions at the same time. The ignition type has to be inductive ignition, not capacitor discharge ignition. This means the amps flowing through the spark plug must be from a DC power supply. The speed of CDI is too fast for proper contact with water molecules to MAKE hydrogen gas and water vapor pressure. The current has to be low, so as the tiny tips of plugs don't get burned out. The best setting was called 6-7 amps DC pulse according to S1R9A9M9. Nathren , in 2005-2012 worked with the 2 technicians in the shop for testing building alternate energy related set ups. Ignition primary wires can be switched around to get the opposite output polarity high volts. One man was his son who had the same name. They both contributed tech data on the previous website that is now closed down. So you have either positive or negative high voltage, diodes facing proper direction, proper resistance in circuit based on OHMS Laws, time delay lines added for way late retarded timing to -34 degrees, required magnetic field that travels down to plug tips ,and 6-7 amps DC current. The high volts pulse is NOT good enough to provide a proper PLASMA PATH for the expected current to pass through plugs. What is used is an added small circuit that has a SMALL capacitor charged with about 200v DC against a blocking 15kv FAST diode , hooked to the capacitor output. The initial high V. pulse out, in split second ,sees a different path rather than the effort for the spark gap. It presses against the ON diode that abruptly shuts off , compressing the high volts against the diode , that then reverses back and fires spark plug.. It takes with it, the small cap discharge very fast, providing energy path for the waiting main current. The delay line is provided by wire turns over the plug wiring, and also an inductor coil of about 1.5Millihenry in the high volts line. The Briggs mower has preset non adjustable timing at TDC. The Mag field stretches the firing time out to -34 degrees along with the the extra L coil.(see data on the S1R9A9M9 triple wire coils assembly that has several purposes same time). The MAIN power supply is to be called ISOLATED grounds, as is done with an Inverter box with a transformer separate secondary side with output single diode for about 45 volts pulsing half wave DC output. No filter capacitor. Output has to go through a safety series bank of 15kv total protection diodes . This short length series diode bank rests vertically on horizontal 80mm 12v fan .3amp, with see through plastic shroud. The heat released is blown upwards away from the diodes. Either FR607 with dual set screws European type wire terminal connectors, or fast flat plastic DTV32F plastic damper diodes on narrow aluminum heat sink. The inverter isolation separates the battery ground with the output power ground. The miniature added P.S. is a 150 watt 20khz open board inverter with fast bridge rectifier you add on. Two output.wires are soldered to the appropriate terminals for 200v AC. .The high volts sees the 2 diodes in the bridge through the ON 15Kv diode. It wants to bypass the plug gap effort, by going different route seeking the opposite high V polarity terminal. But the microwave diode stops it, and reverses back to plug. This technique is US Patented, US8555867B2 and has this output diode added to the capacitor that is on a regular type CDI . The left over energy, from firing Primary of ignition coil , goes through high volts diode along and goes with with the high voltage that fires plug. (Just firing ignition does not allow extra main energy current to pass to plugs. ) The small board power has to have enough watts and current to keep recharging the minimum 45uf 400v cap in between firings. The MAIN extra energy comes from the Inverter power supply. The ignition voltage has to be extended in time of milliseconds for more contact with the water. The CDI type deals with microseconds. The 15KV diode is said to also release RADIANT ENERGY that travels down to the combustion chamber. Tesla worked with this and had written about other special circuits for that purpose. See data on Tesla Hair Pin circuit that has extra spark gap and 2 capacitors output that releases radiant Energy. The earlier Georgia S1R9A9M9 car conversions all used special dual coils relay per cylinder, and they were IN VACUUM. I just assumed that the radiant energy if provided, was enclosed and not lost in the air, so as it would travel with the circuit all the way to spark plugs. They had diode, coil, diode, coil , diode to output. The high volts came in after the 2nd diode. The L coil charge from inverter was in front of the 2nd diode. They called them the "Magic Relays'. The required magnetic field came from them and traveled down the wire. (Also, a North + South neodymium magnetic ring type magnet fits over a steel spark plug and field is also there at the tips in combustion chamber-just another idea.

Have you heard about the used oil furnace from 1950's that ran on water? Patent was issued to army service men in Texas for only adding the initial water line to T fitting for used oil burner on used jeep engine oil, to get 50% increase in efficiency. That was not what was written in their application for Patent. SS coil tubing in brick insulated firepot of oil burner hooked to input common water line. Oil furnace started. Temperature gauge monitored for temp up to 1500 degrees F. Then valve opened so as superheated ONLY steam is allowed in T fitting with oil to tiny nozzle. Nice burn flame runs constant. Then oil line was quickly shut off. Furnace still runs. Shock wave from 90 lbs pressure to zero AMBIENT in fire-pot forms Hydrogen and Oxygen torch flame that also heats heat ex changer. Normally water molecules separate at about 3000-6000 degrees which is too much energy. The vibration shock wave allows for disassociation at lower temperature. Electric motor with dual shafts ran 2 oil pumps at 90lbs. If input water shut off, and cooled down, then furnace has to be restarted on oil. A much smaller unit in crate was shown to a US senator in Washington building underground parking , as an open trunk display. This was somewhat similar to the propane operated camping stove with circular pores, vertical round fire brick insulated chimney, and interior SS tubing of initial water. When steam introduced to T fitting, the fuel used was shut down leaving burning circular torch flames. It probably used minerals free distilled water so as nozzle would not clog. (US Patent office not allow for over unity for public.- Free Energy is eliminated in issued US Patents. US- 1958, 2,863,499.
The water furnace did not have water or steam mixed with fuel oil. The heat ex-changer in brick highly insulated fire pot , was brought up to =/> 1500 degrees F. Oil removed when steam valve was opened. This was a new science phenomena when the shock wave broke up the H20 molecule at the unusual lowered temperature. Read paragraph again. The US Patent issued was NOT what was asked for in the complete application manuscript in 1950. Patent said steam mixed with fuel oil.

AI computer says the engine spark on time is different (LESS) for 6000RPM as compared with idling 700 RPM. The regular Briggs mower engine Magnetron fires about .27 Milliseconds as about 10 degrees of flywheel rotation of 6000rpm. There may be confusion on my part, as regarding length of spark time, from normal Briggs Zero to continuance of spark such as to degrees to negative minus 34 degrees ATDC, and then some. Some engines start at BEFORE TDC but the Georgia AUTO engines conversions had timing start at about negative - 34 degrees ATDC PLUS the time lag due, to the 1.5MH inductor in series with the 10kv ignition. This allowed slightly more contact time of pulse current with the water at spark plug gap according to the forum tech data. (More Hydrogen formed) The high volts plasma path initiates electrolysis for the 6-7 amps,and then reduces in voltage as idling running engine. The S1R9A9M9 triple wires elecromagnet 6-7 amp coil magnetic field over the spark plug cable causes an extension of spark time, plus inductor time. This was to simulate timing as ATDC, since mower engine ignition coils are stationary, with firing start at zero, while the older car engines had adjustable distributor for any timing change and also -34 degrees to start. There was no exact data given on the Briggs spark time with the electromagnet field. The regular plug cable hooked to section of bare 5 turns copper wire under the field stress, before going to spark plug.This did cause spark time extension to some point. Oscilloscope test would be required.Their scope data was not given to us. Half wave DC Isolated power supply could possibly still be used, as they did, in conjunction with the dual inductors - as was in the original relays per cylinder. 1.5+1.5 = 3Millihenries as both together in series with low volts, and just one 1.5MH in series was with the high volts. . The assumption was that since cars used -34 degrees , then the Briggs should be in that range also, as being a 4 stroke engine.

Notes regarding the back EMF spike higher volts for the S1R9A9M9 engine to water in carb conversion.--

After considerable time with calculator , formulas, parts values, I have been unable to verify being able to obtain minimum 100 volts back EMF to superimpose on the circuit low 38v DC. The tech web site had mentioned several times a 6-7Amps and 100v was necessary for the circuit. Therefore, the result is that half wave DC is not required as power source to make usage of the off time for the extra time space, for the volts forward.( They may have only just meant the DC to AC Inverter box power as 100v) Both car conversions and the Briggs mower engine had ran on half wave DC. Also Briggs starting mode had used 12v battery, then removed. E volts = L Henries X I Amps / t spark time in second as extended. 2 Inductor coils in series was .003Henry. The needed value came out as 180 microseconds as too fast. (not about 28 milliseconds with time extension) Timing on car engines started at late minus 34 degrees plus the inductor in High V line. The Briggs timing started at zero degrees and extended to about minus 34 degrees plus the coils inductance. At that point the Hydrogen was formed, fired, and water vapor pressure was generated that contributed to piston pressure. I built 3 different ISOLATED power supplies for upcoming bench tests. They will be all changed over now to Full Wave DC that is more energy efficient. The special relay that was used back then that contained the 2 coils in vacuum, can be seen as drawing on internet as original hand drawing by Nathren's son and also computer generated red/black/blue circuit as same thing. No back EMF volts addition is available to main circuit conversion.

Old style electromagnetic dual coils relay cannot be found by many technicians. These were new extras, used for the electrical pole boxes of Georgia street traffic light signal 6volt lights many years back. Most nowadays are solid state replacement. These specialized relays were used in alternate energy tests due to exquisite properties. AC , 60 cycles, switching, latching, dual inductors, each about 1.5 Millihenry #21 gauge magnet wire, .7 ohm per coil, diode in between coils, coils each 1 3/4" by 3/4" with small core. The Bakelite outer black housing has no bracket, no markings, screw terminals on outside, and looks like an old vintage relay. Outer housing 3" long, 2" wide, and 1 1/2" high. The units are enclosed in VACUUM , so as will be extremely reliable in all weather conditions 24 hours a day, all year. When one was tapped and imploded, they are to be found with pivoting armature with 6 sets contacts inside. The alternate energy web site was closed down since no more than the original 15 can be found. When tested by technicians for hydrogen conversions, and other types did not work, they said they were worth their weight in gold. Search Please!

It was called "The 60 Turns Coil Test". I suspect now, that the analog with needle panel current meter would not register the fast ignition impulse as impressed on the adjacent wires. A small, open board type, China $35 battery operated with optional AC supply oscilloscope from E bay DSO 138 as "welded/ completed " ready to use, should be used with one ohm resistor on the GROUND side of the current line returning back to the power source. Ohms law says the volts read over resistor is the actual pulse current since I = E/ 1. The Georgia 3 technicians back about 2008 did have an old oscilloscope for use.The ignition pulse returns through engine casting for ground and not interfering on the ground side back to the 2nd power source. There would be interference and possible damage, if scope resistance probe was used on the same side as the high voltage .

Today I tried to replicate small test as described in the tech literature of S1R9A9M9 from 2008. The web forum had page regarding a side leakage inductance of wire coil wrappings that would reduce current flow on meter in 60 turns, by inducing a reactance ohms in the low voltage line, from the high voltage line. (increasing ohms) It was called "The 60 Turns Coils test".I varied the insulated high volts wire to bare copper wire. I varied the end connections for polarity of the outer coil as matching turns direction. I used a steel bolt core inside plastic tube with the 2 types ignition wire and then the 60 turns insulated wire from car battery. I had added 7kv diodes in series to protect the battery from the 6kv ignition. When repeatedly pushing the ignition single firing button switch, the amp gauge value never changed with all different adjustments. I suspect now, that the analog with needle panel current meter would not register the fast ignition impulse as impressed on the adjacent wires. A small China $35 battery/AC operated oscilloscope from E bay should be used with one ohm resistor on the GROUND side of the current line returning back to the power source. Ohms law says the volts read over resistor is the actual pulse current since I = E/ 1. The Georgia 3 technicians back about 2008 did have an oscilloscope for use.The ignition pulse returns through engine casting for ground and not interfering on the ground side to the 2nd power source. I don't doubt there was a higher volts transfer from one side to the other, since other people who did the test, had held the 2 wires wires and got shocked before.This was assuming the triple coils assembly of 2008, on the mower engine running on water in carburetor, Nathren needed the higher volts due to the spark plug being 125 ohms and can't get 10 amps to go through with just car battery. The superimposed volts over 1000 would push the 10 amps through the spark plug. Because of these negative tests I did, , it is now still possible of the bare ignition wire used to insure proper spark plug firing with the added 10 amps current. They may not of known in 2008 that Champion plugs can have the resistor removed and replaced with copper segment. The larger Briggs engines require LONG REACH Threads type plugs while smaller ones are short reach and have readily available zero ohms spark plugs. He probably , back then, could only get Champion QC12YC as long reach 125ohm instead of 4000ohms regular plug. My current series circuit can have the same resistance values without having to change them to get unchanging 6 amps. All his previous car engines had ran on 6-7 amps. In the original message board article from 2008, 20 amps on meter was reduced to 12 amps to same resistance load when cross firing was done for an experiment The only difference was, I used separate resistor for load to ground, as was done in the original 60turns test, rather than firing the amps through spark plug- AS WAS DONE IN THE S1R9A9M9 2008 You tube videos of running self powered engine of Hydrogen gas and water vapor pressure. There are voltage drops in series from my beginning 38V DC so as about 20v is left for the spark plug. My query at this time is whether to use half wave DC or Full wave DC. Both earlier conversions, cars + Briggs 18HP, had used half wave dc , as there is an off time 50% duty cycle, to make usage of the Back EMF from inductor inside relay greater than 100v.The 2008 videos had car battery 12v for starting, battery removed, then switched to alternator DC about 12-18v DC. He neglected to say it was self running . Most likely since all earlier car conversions had used certain dual coil relay sealed in vacuum per cylinder, that one was also used with the Brigg 18HP mower engine because it also fits inside the plastic deli tub on side of engine, and INDUCTORS ARE REQUIRED also . See videos again. The AI computer answered my question recently and gave a worked formula to get a back EMF of 100v from inductor with parallel diode to circuit output using 1.5MH inductor coil, 20volts, and 6 amps at fast discharge of 11 milliseconds. Inductor is also in High voltage line. This is ALSO as circuit published that was used in the car engine conversions based on speed of only INDUCTIVE TYPE ignition firing of spark plug. (The tiny electrodes of plugs may require much higher volts for common electrolysis to get sufficient Hydrogen WITH the accompanied vapor pressure to push pistons.)

The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly had several purposes same time. The magnetic field of 10A peak, 5A average DC causes the required time extension of spark so as water has more contact with it. It was not a step up or step-down transformer. The ignition coil on Briggs mower is called a Magnetron as it has an embedded SS trigger switch. Mowers are negative spark with positive ground. That means the spark jumps upward from metal casting to center of plug. An autotransformer with 3 leads requires a ground wire for primary. The spark would never work, as it would bypass plug and go up the side wire. That means S1r coils is just a type of electromagnet only, with end wire hooked to the negative high volts at top of plug. No adjustment of Briggs timing. Therefore, since old car engine could have distributor turned for timing change, Nathren used coils for that purpose. The cars conversions had inductance about 1.5MHenry for high volts line that also contributed to extended timing. So as the Briggs 18HP had RELAY in the plastic tub on side of engine as it dimension-ally fits. The same amps for magnetic field over plug wire also goes THROUGH spark plug. Electrolysis at plug tip electrodes for small Hydrogen is supplemented with water vapor pressure to move piston. The inductors provide also a required magnetic field at plug tips. The cars conversion has 400W 110vAC inverter box and output diode 50% duty cycle on time, while the Briggs alternators AC output to DC with diode or bridge rectification are outputting Pulsing on + off DC power at 50% duty cycle or full wave Bridge DC which has more power. The Briggs engine DUAL ALTERNATORS at low cranking speed has no output. The 12v battery ran circuit until engine was at idle RPM so as alternator would run circuit. Then battery was removed. It has 5-14.5 A capability at idle. The ohms resistance of circuit was in series as about .7-ohm MH coil, and voltage drops of the diodes for the formula I = E / R reduces the 12v battery. His car and mower engine conversions had 2-3 spark gaps in series. This kept the plugs firing, as not fouled with water. Do you understand all this?? The Champion plug comes apart so as resistor can be removed for zero ohms so as current can pass through spark plug. *****And there is a reason for the S1R coils having bare copper wire for the high volts cable section that bothered many other people over time. It has to do with GETTING cross - leakage inductance, so as there is a higher LOW volts to push the amps to plug, since plug was Champion YC12Yc 125 ohms, not zero ohms. They did not know it could come apart. The superimposed high volts over the 12v DC line allowed the higher push to get through the 125 ohms. Back to Ohms law E = I times R. Is the YouTube S1R9A9M9 Briggs water engine videos making more sense now?? The tech web site is shut down. The S1R coils copper insulated wiring came from chassis #16 gauge wiring of a riding lawn mower. Nathren's son used oscilloscope to get current reading peak of spark plug amps. Average current is about 1/2 peak amps as on a common hand meter. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Questions?

This is more clarification for those still interested in the S1R9A9M9 YOUTUBE mower engine conversion of water in carb as was done in 2008. The website Yahoo Groups waterFuel1978 data typed was by Nathren himself (the father) while his son was much more technical minded than him. The son had same name Nathren. The web forum data was signed Sir for the father, and Nathren for the son's data. Simple adjustable brass valve was not used for water line in that back yard test. The 2 people just squeezed the tubing for the amount of water flow to be allowed. The water upside down water bottle had loose cap so as air can bubble upward into bottle as the water flowed downward. LOW amount of water must be allowed to be pulled in by the vacuum of engine at carb top. (So engine not fowl the plug) The idling engine ran on electrolysis for hydrogen gas at spark plug in combustion chamber, aided by water vapor pressure same time. The EGR was not applied as per the previous car engines done, but was supposed to be added with adjustable valve. (Air compressed into water is is 78% Nitrogen aids engine efficiency) The 18HP Briggs engine normally used 4000 ohm resistive spark plug. It has LONG REACH threads that screws in to threaded hole. Nathren and 3 technicians in Georgia only found spark plug of 125 ohms - same threads. At that time they did not know about Champion spark plugs that can come apart. They could not make engine run on 5amps dc since 12-14 volts could not push current through a high value resistance. That's why circuit had added a triple S1R9A9M9 magnetic coils assembly that provided several uses the same time. (#1) magnetic field over plug BARE #12 copper 5 turns with 21 SPECIAL insulated turns extends spark time to late negative 38 degrees. (#2) 5 amps DC average on hand meter is Peak 10 amps DC current on oscilloscope - same amps for field also as going through spark plug . (#3) Timing change done different way since Briggs ignition coil Magnetron is not adjustable as on older car engines turning the distributor. (4) The use of Ohms law E = I X R says can't pass 5 amps through 125 ohms with about 14 volts. About 63 volts required that's not normally available. The wire for high voltage passing through the S1R coils was only bare copper wire. The insulated low voltage wire was SPECIAL wrapped over it. There was cross leakage inductance of higher voltage induced in the low side. This is how the current passed through the spark plug at higher superimposed pressure voltage. At that time they did not know that you could remove resistor from top of a long reach Champion plug and replace it with copper segment, and form a zero ohms plug, or RACING spark plug. Farther down the line, the two output wires go together to plug top. There is a magnetic field present at combustion chamber that aids the process. 7 A peak through 1-2 wire inductor coils in relay provides magnetic field transferred to plug gap. On Briggs engine there is a magnetic field from Sir coils with possible relay inductors also, as the dimensions fit inside the plastic tub. There is a "return ground" wire present so as low volts does not return through the casting of engine, as the high volts does. See in video the extension cord "Y" that connects as very long wire from under spark plug to side of plastic tub on side of engine. The separate return line was used on all car conversions with the 400w inverter box. Time in micro/milliseconds is saved by this method and less ohms resistance. Engine started on 12 battery, then battery removed. Engine ran on the under flywheel alternator and DC from diode(s) half wave or full wave DC. The quick positive engine demonstrations Videos 1+2, did not have ANY preventive safety measures as the 10KV was across the battery and dangerous for acid explosion only when battery connected to starter motor. After several non tech people got hurt by acid or burnt shorted wires, they changed the written data on web site so as a duplication wouldn't work . The 3rd video on back porch engine test did not have wire of 5 amps connected to spark plug. The other Youtube videos of "The Smack" testing same engine at Nathren's property also did not have 5 amps wire hooked to spark plug top, but to an alternate resistance load as fan motor. On the first running engine video you can see the 3 power wires coming down from the upper cowl into the plastic tub on side of engine. The heat of the 2008 summer, the heat of engine, had melted the spiral black electrical tape glue so as the heavy tub slides downward, exposing the upper power wires. The S1R coils are in the tub along with other parts such as required accessory spark gap . Nathren's, and tech friends invention was shown working , running on water, but he neglected to say it was self running from the 12 +1 MAGNETS under the spinning flywheel . (The Plus red cable from battery was removed.) That Briggs 18HP had "dual" alternators as originally for one side for 5A for riding mower AC headlights, and 4 A for battery charging. They can be put together for higher amps out, up to 16 amps Full Wave DC, idle speed. Web site shut down. Most of the tech data was on the car conversions using one relay of dual 1.5MH coils per cylinder using the 400W DC to 115vAC inverter source power with one diode output. The 15 relays they had were obsolete- non purchasable . That's why the S1R triple coils was the replacement and using 12v DC instead. See my other messages for other data. There are several US Patents on superimposing 2 power sources together. I use a made up Power supply of ISOLATED secondary side from China 20Khz Inverter open board with voltage doubler , so as the 2 grounds do not interfere. You cannot use the common dc to dc step up voltage converters sold, as it uses 2 of same ground.- non isolated. My set up is about 38V DC , because you need protection from High V., and there are voltage drop losses in series, with resistors + series diode bank , leaving about 20 volts to spark plug for the in series current flow. You could also use Power On Board 500W inverter box so as getting the secondary side transformer wire gauge as handling 6.5 amps, then hooking to SCR controlled adjustable AC voltage reducer with meter, to get about 38v DC after the following rectifier or diode, assuming the plug is zero ohms. The green box 400w 115vAC Power On board brand, is what the technicians used in the shop in Georgia 2008 with the "worth their weight in gold" vacuumed sealed AC 60cycles traffic signals switching relays used in pole boxes that allowed smooth running of car engines. Their Inverter they tested could not be used with the S1R coils assembly on mower engine, as it will bog down and quit, most likely from the coils leakage inductance interfering with box. They should of made the coils assembly right the first time with all insulation + proper plug, and proper protection including fuses. The box inverter or triple coils assembly will work due to the expected 38% only duty cycle of on time as flywheel goes around to fire again. The Inverter boxes have a Peak double value wattage usable , but only for very short time such as start mode, but can use a short duty cycle as not on 100% of the time. Nathren had said there was a 1 HP loss for every 6HP of an engine, and they run at a lower RPM. THE 1978 Elcamino was on 18 miles per gallon only stream mineral water at highway speeds, PLUS the required EGR usage, at 6-7 amps Peak 3.5 A average current, because of the 50% duty cycle after diode from Inverter box. That "Wife's" car was in security garage locked up, he was hassled and shot at by thugs, arrested once, and wife divorced him, and Web site, and property address no longer any good. How many people are trying to duplicate this spark plug electrolysis that also generates water vapor pressure same time at -34 degrees late timing past TDC?? See again his S1R9A9M9 first two Youtube videos of 18HP Briggs mower engine running idle speed on plain water in carburetor. It actually sounds like a water pump! A car alternator can be belted to the crankshaft for power output.

The Tesla Hair-Pin circuit for Radiant Energy may be useful in decision making for electrical circuits with inductors. For example, in 2006-20012 Georgia, a succession of dual coil switching relays were specifically used with in series HIGH VOLTAGE IGNITION during the Hydrogen car conversions and Briggs mower engine running on water in carbs. There was also water vapor pressure generated along with the Hydrogen gas at spark plug electrolysis. The High volts went through diode for half wave DC high frequency through spark gap (internal contacts of relay) , passing through two 1.5 Millihenry inductors , to spark plugs. The 3 multiple in series spark gaps, includes the distributor rotor gap along with the other two, insures the plugs as non fouling. The adjacent coil's magnetic field-from 38v pulsing 7 amps was in vicinity of the internal gaps , so as mimiking the Tesla Magnetic Spark Gap. (The low volts also went through coils of relay with exterior diodes after Box 400W Inverter to 110vAC.) The resulting WHITE SPARK Radiant Energy - not purple, red, or blue, would then flow down the wires, increasing efficiency, to spark plug without dissipating , due to bakelite relays being in sealed vacuum as best insulator. See S1R9A9M9 related Tech data and You Tube videos. His 1978 El Camino reported to get 18MPG water with EGR applied . There was 1HP loss for every 5HP. The mower engine can be seen self running on the alternator DC under the flywheel, battery disconnected, on You Tube video, and one relay with his triple timing coils, is in plastic tub of engine. Nathren had said those 15 discontinued Power Co. traffic signal pole service box AC electromechanical relays he purchased as surplus, were worth their weight in Gold!

S1R9A9M9 Relays then And Now

I studied and designed a replacement for the "magic dual coil relays" that were obsolete electromechanical and not available to purchase. Nathren had 15 in a box surplus. The 4 technicians in Georgia had tried to make duplicates hand made relay that did not work. They said the original relays were worth their weight in Gold. Engines ran mostly smooth when EGR was applied same time. Years later the unmarked relays were found to be new/sealed latching type switching replacements for the 60cycles electrical pole boxes in Georgia for traffic signal lights. I made up 3 samples coils and used the average values for about 1.5Millihenry for each one of 2. The CARS engine conversions put both low volts + high volts through it to run spark plugs on 6-7 amps. Plugs needed to be zero ohms- Champion plugs come apart to remove resistor, so as like a racing plug. It has been written that there may be Radiant Energy provided by the relay that travels down to spark plugs. Their sample 2 relays were NOT made in vacuum chamber, like mine was! I used Carlon sealable box with seal , parts inside, screws epoxied to lid, and brass fittings, valve, and vacuum gauge, and hand tool vacuum pimp. You cannot epoxy insulated wire to hole in lid. The air still enters under the insulation. This vacuum technique keeps the energy from expanding outward and follows down the wire. ( Diode-spark gap, N + S magnets parallel to gap- PF capacitor parallel to gap, and following inductor coil ) China Ebay sells these 21gauge wire .8mm as 1.5Mh. Dayton brand also, from Parts Plus, is less money. The car conversions had 400W inverter for 110v AC to half wave pulsing DC, about 40vDC, while Briggs 18HP started on 12v battery , then battery removed, and engine ran on the under-flywheel alternator current 10 amps pulsing DC. The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly had several uses same time! I remade several S1R coils so as to get same magnetic field over plug wire using 6 amps worth , so as more turns wire applied instead of 10 amps. Nathren's Briggs original plug 4000 ohms was changed to 125 ohms. Therefore to get 10 amps flow, he needed over 1000 volts. (Ohms law formula) That's why the original coils had BARE 12# wire for the high V. There was leakage inductance that superimposed higher volts for the low volts side!. The input was about 18 amps that dropped down to 10 amps flow due to the ohms reactance impressed on the low volts side from the high volts side! The web site had article about what was called (The 60turns coil test) Amperage reduced on 12v side with wrappings over the high volts wire.! . Nathren neglected to say mower engine was self running! I hope these notes are interesting to you. All engines ran at about minus 34 degrees timing on water vapor pressure generated ,with also Hydrogen gas generated and fired , using common electrolysis at tiny electrodes plug gap in combustion chamber. This was their invention , but not made marketable due to the relays. He said about 1 horsepower lost for every 6.

During 1940's WW2, Hungarian scientist emigrated to US to keep his invention from the German Nazi war machine. After several years, he revealed data about his conversion of prop plane engine to run on water tank. Steam generator from exhaust heat formed vapors in chamber with SS screens for electrodes. Certain setting Tesla coil was applied , so as efficient hydrogen and oxygen fuel gases were generated and operated the engine. Is there someone knowledgeable to design circuit and parts for high voltage Mhtz oscillator ? Is quarter wave secondary coil neccessary? Narrow, short, gray type high temperature PVC tube with #30 magnet wire, for about 15KV. See- The Hefferlin manuscript. On line , or back issue Sept 1946 Amazing Stories Magazine.

Under dash fuel miser computer used to test several gas savers in the past. Measurements of tenths of a gallon passing to carburetor. Under carb dual fine screens with nichrome wire heater with gaskets, did not work. The vacuum from intake manifold pulled air and gas way to fast, for system to work. The second one was "Gas cap gas saver". System used fumes from above liquid in tank flowing through the under car vapor containment system to added adjustable brass valve hooked to intake manifold. The cap in back had hole drilled so as one way valve on outside, and hose on interior side went down into tank. Air drawn in by vacuum formed gas fumes, from the bubbling action. The short piece of CLEAR hose of valve to manifold would allow one to see fumes running engine only from the tank. The carb IDLING jet was screwed in tight with screwdriver. Engine stops when tube pinched. Failed MPG because car only needing idling 5% of the time on road. Both water injection and steam injection in summer time actually worked at steady 11% mileage increase. The technique of restricting gas flow from carb TO intake manifold works also at 25%. Momentary Push button on dash , during deceleration's, allows vacuum to pull air slightly above carb float bowl . (like holding thumb on straw of water) The modern cars with fuel injection works also with similar method by relay clicked with MOMENTARY TYPE dash button for disconnecting grounds on all injectors. 25% savings. Small water cell for low efficiency hydrogen gas electrolysis generator also works for 10-20% gas mileage increase using amps draw from battery. The Last unit I tested actually worked and then failed after 3 weeks, as it fell apart due to not being professionally built. Under carb spoked spinner between gaskets and end bearings would make buzzing noise as with increasing /decreasing RPMs. Car had increased efficiency, as it would coast all way through town to driveway without touching accelerator pedal. Tone winding down at engine shut off. That was invented by man who passed away and the wife had sent me all the papers, and local newspaper articles.The fuel/air mixture was improved with the turbulence generated. Engines run on gasoline FUMES VAPORS and air, not liquid gas.

The unit shown years ago that ran on several 9v batteries, is most probably an oscillator hooked to an AC amplifier hooked to central electrode, with outer metal shell as opposite electrode. The tap / distilled water unit, as dialectic between plates, makes a "water capacitor" , and everyone knows that a small capacitor has it's own self resonant frequency. The water molecules then vibrate producing heat, as continuous reaction increasing. Look up methods of industrial "liquid float level measurement" of vats of liquids. They use the resonant frequency method which corresponds to the level of fluid. The Stan Meyer type process years ago in Ohio used it to make steam heat. Many Patents regarding Hydrogen generation. At low power level input, his water tank vessel would not freeze in winter. Farmers way years back , used to put hose in winter ponds hooked to running air compressor. The bubbling action vibrations kept molecules water bumping into each other for heat friction. The ponds stayed open in winter land. The firm displaying the sphere water heater demonstration accepts approximately open $250 donation, and the plans are free - not sold. Read their company notes. Video seen as You Tube video.

Power Supply For water Conversion (lawnmower engine)

Currently 2 have been hand built and tested for high wattage. The full wave DC type is kept as 2nd choice. The half wave DC unit is necessary because of it's use with 1,5MH inductor coil in the later circuit. The back EMF 2nd pulse out is to add to spark plug firing as needed. Small electrodes of a common electrolysis cell , for example, need much higher volts to get sufficient hydrogen bubbles. Spark plug gap in combustion chamber is that type. The originator in Georgia, 2005-2012, said circuit required 6-7 amps DC and over 100volts , so as there is sufficient hydrogen gas and water vapor pressure generated at about minus 34 degrees timing retarded. His circuit shown years ago, shows several diodes redirecting reverse high volts to plug. half wave type unit can be made 2 ways. One has Boost volts dc converter hooked to pass transistor MOSFET and separate PWM pulser unit with adjustable duty cycle for 50%. This power goes through primary of 1:1 transformer , so as secondary side is called ISOLATED. This way, the 2 grounds of circuit would not clash. The output diode is fast recovery if high frequency is used. The other half wave DC power supply is composed of China open board 20KHZ inverter , using the 18vAC terminals on board hooked to half wave type voltage doubler with 330uf caps low ESR, 105 degrees and fast recovery diodes.The output 28v DC is capable of 168 watts to simulate the end circuit that would be used. This unit has isolation also. The other full wave unit has the same inverter 20khz board with input from 19vDC boost converter , so as the output final is 27vDC with full wave rectification fast recovery, and capable of isolation, 6-7 amps current, and 168 watts. This is improvement over the original S1R9A9M9 circuit that was dangerous to the operator of high volts on 12v battery, and not using series diodes protection from ignition volts. There is also small magnetic field in combustion chamber aiding the process. I have added neodymium ring magnet to spark plug which also carries field to tips of plug. The copper wire joint of low v + high V is changed to steel magnetic wire in rubber hose to carry field down to plug, and provide voltage protection from the rubber. The S1R9A9M9 website is shut down, but was composed of questions and answers and tech notes that I captured before it's demise. The specific S1R triple coils assembly provided several uses the same time on 18HP Briggs engine, but was easier to do, than machining special plate to reposition the lawnmower ignition coil. My original wrong impression was that the coils needed the full voltage drop, as on the 18HP. I made 39 diff models until discovering the coils needed to be copper , while a separate adjustable HEAT power resistor is used to get exact spark plug current needed, and carries one of the several voltage drops.

Many years back the Engineer Zubris allowed his Patented circuit to be used on home built electric cars and motorcycles for Royalty $100 with advice for each unit made. His circuit adds a quick discharge current from capacitor into main winding of motor , split second before heavy amps goes in. The back EMF (resistance) is removed, and car gets faster acceleration and double mileage before recharging battery. His wife was mostly usually driving the converted electric VW bug. One day he drove it and it quit on side of road. Wires were added and parts to get it going again. The battery gauge seemed to be much slower to discharge. After studying the circuit , a Patent application was done, and issued.