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Bedini advice pls

#7 ·

arKzeRo wrote:

obtw i develop audio dsp software as a hobby, synthesis and efx applications mostly, so if that kind of thing is useful to anyone then let me know! i am always happy to create stuff for nice people - free that is! like the energy we all seek
Can you make a real time sound generator that can produce AM modulation of at least 3 wave that can be either sine or pulse, each wave can be shifted from 0 to 360, and frequency ranging from 0.1 HZ to max? People use this for electrolysis or interference experiment but so far there is no software that produce this as far as I know.

Bedini advice pls

#4 ·

What you want to achieve? If you just want a charger that work using Bedini principle build the solid state version. Mine cost under $1, with scrapped SLA batteryand coil. My efficiency is more than 50% conventionally. I call mine stingo.

waterfuelforall forum closing down.

#1 ·

Waterfuelforall is a forum for HHO experimenter which contain many topic on building hho system and its implementation on an engine.

Forum closing down
Hi Guys

I regret to announce to I will be closing down the WaterfuelForAll forum.
I have accepted an offer to join a company in the USA and will be moving there soon.
As a result I am in the process of selling my booster company to a local South African.
Should anyone would like to continue to host the WFA forum, they are welcome to contact me at [email protected]
and I will provide them the Forum database files.

In the meantime I suggest that you save/copy any information contained in this forum that is of any personal value to you.

Good luck and I wish those of you that are currently working on Boyce projects or anything similar just success!!

Best regards

Wouter

corona maker from insulated & bare wire

#1 ·

Here is my version of corona maker. Made from thin bare wire wound to insulated wire. The induction will force corona to come out the thin wire. Since the one that insulated do not exposed to air, only corona made by thin wire produce ozone. And if your driver circuit produce DC dominant HV you can make it produce mostly negative ino by connecting the coil the correct way.

Use neon bulb to check current direction. only leg with negative current in the neon will lit.



one way to wound it:


the corona, not very clear unfortunately, my webcam can not capture it well. Run at about 600mA at 10V.



Edit:
Now I use insulated wire as positive wound over a bare copper pipe as negative.



Slight modification to the circuit:

Is it ok to overcharge a capacitor?

#10 ·

I forgot to time my charging and overcharge my 55F capacitor again today. Seeing that it become hto I immediately sunk it on a water botol in front of me. It produce rigorous bubble for minutes .... I guess the bubble is H2 or O2, which may explode if there are spark around.

Is it ok to overcharge a capacitor?

#7 ·

EgmQC wrote:

In the formula , C is in farad so ((3.4v * 3.4v) * 55) * 0.5 = 317.9 Joules
Thanks for the correction .

sebosfato wrote:

If it's electrolitic it can explode or damage the dielectric, this will cause the capacitance to become smaller if it don't stop working.

Matthew Jones wrote:

Play it by ear and don't hold on to them while your charging. They can blow and it can be violent.
Thanks. I forgot that electrolytic will allow electrolysis and release oxygen/hydrogen bubble and may dent the cap or puffing. I should always monitor it. Thanks for the warning both of you .


EgmQC wrote:

And btw , measure the capacitance, i never seen in my entire life a capacitor with the exact capacitance as wrote on it, usually for low quality capacitor its 10% margin error and for high quality 1% or less, 5-10% on a 55 farad its a massive difference and can lead to wrong calculation if not tester before.

Matthew Jones wrote:

I have taken 100 volt caps up to 300 volt. They were good caps and still are. They test out exactly as they should. They have not changed in there Farrad rating even though they hold more voltage.

Ted Ewert wrote:

The rating on a cap is the "working" voltage, not the maximum voltage.
Thanks, that explain it .

Is it ok to overcharge a capacitor?

#1 ·

I have 55F 2.5V from Ben. It took 12 minutes 17 seconds to reach 3V, 0.5V more than rated voltage. I actually take it to 3.4V. Anyone here have experience with capacitor? What overcharging do to a capacitor?

This photo show less voltage, maybe because I accidently short it since I notice it instantly get warm. much warmer than right after charging.


COP measurement: Input is 600mA at 12V, 7.2 joules each seconds, 5306.4 joules total. Energy stored on the capacitor = 0.5 x C x V^2 = 0.5 x 55000000 x 3 x 3 = lol forget it. I think either my calculation screw up or my circuit screw up the cap....

Talk about catalysts

#2 ·

electrolysis catalyst

In electrolysis the catalyst is NaOH and KOH. When you put salt in water, it eventually turn into NaOH and Cl2. Baking soda and other salt or addition will end up as KOH or NaOH.

Carbon will increase electrolysis efficiency up to twice, but will be consumed. Which is why alcohol accelerate electrolysis but will only last few minutes.

Stoopidest Thing Youve ever Tried

#10 ·

Charging a lead acid with raidant charger with loose connection on one cell. It produce a lot of bubble. When the connection fall off, it sparking and goes "boom". Luckily it is only a small 4.5Ah one.

Lead Acid battery chemistry?

#10 ·

Richie_asg1 wrote:

Please also look at the addition of Phosphoric acid to the Electrolyte.
It also has the (chemical) effect of reducing crystal size, increasing output.
There seems to be a trade-off though, as capacity seems to be slightly reduced, although voltage is increased. Used for E.Vehicles.
Interesting, kinda like NiMH vs NiCd then?


Dave Michael Rogers wrote:

Using lead electrodes and sulphuric acid, exactly as Gaston Plante, the inventor of the solid plate lead acid battery had done himself, I noticed that the dendrite growths on the plate surfaces were very different when pulsed with HV impulses.
Thank you for the document .

Dave Michael Rogers wrote:

Gassing for pasted batteries is bad. BUT for solid plate batteries, it means that NEW active plate material is being grown, adding to the capacity of the battery, so not taking a battery past the gassing voltage means that no new plate material is made and will probably become lost to hardened sulphation.
I see . I guess we have to stick to C20 then, not over and not under.

Agree with cold boiling part.

Lead Acid battery chemistry?

#3 ·

It seems finer grain will also increase battery output current
Lead sulphate is an insulator, and therefore the way in which lead sulfate forms on the electrodes determined how easily the battery can be discharged.
Radiant charge are said to be unsuitable for sealed lead acid for more than normal gas generation.

According to the graph bellow, it indicate that the battery felt as being charged with more than normal voltage
Operation of Lead Acid Batteries
The charging reaction converts the lead sulfate at the negative electrode to lead. At the positive terminal the reaction converts the lead to lead oxide. As a by-product of this reaction, hydrogen is evolved. During the first part of the charging cycle, the conversion of lead sulfate to lead and lead oxide is the dominant reaction. However, as charging proceeds and most of the lead sulfate is converted to either lead or lead dioxide, the charging current electrolyzes the water from the electrolyte and both hydrogen and oxygen gas are evolved, a process known as the "gassing" of the battery. If current is being provided to the battery faster than lead sulfate can be converted, then gassing begins before all the lead sulfate is converted, that is, before the battery is fully charged. Gassing introduces several problems into a lead acid battery. Not only does the gassing of the battery raise safety concerns, due to the explosive nature of the hydrogen produced, but gassing also reduces the water in the battery, which must be manually replaced, introducing a maintenance component into the system. In addition, gassing may cause the shedding of active material from the electrolyte, thereby permanently reducing battery capacity. For these reasons, the battery should not regularly be charged above the voltage which causes gassing. The voltage across the battery and the gassing voltage are shown in the figure below.

According to this article, we should charge the battery with minimum gassing. This would means we have to reduce our input current significantly if we observe gas production.

Lead Acid battery chemistry?

#1 ·

Whatever charge lead acid battery, charge process require energy. And according to Bedini there is difference when people charging with radiant circuit.

Here is the standard process of charging. Anyone has other version, feel free to post them.
Accu Oerlikon - battery power

Bloom Energy's "Bloom Box"

#11 ·

Fuel cell is not green, do not reduce pollution, do not reduce our dependency to fossil fuel as long as industry still use fossil fuel to produce the hydrogen. They not going to use solar or wind soon enough to prevent the additional pollution by fuel cell technology. Don't expect the industry will use alternative method of producing hydrogen because for safety, the hydrogen produced must be 99.99% free of oxygen. A little bit of oxygen in storage means kaboom.

Bloom Energy's "Bloom Box"

#5 ·

phi1.62 wrote:

The inventor of the device hopes that within ten years it will be available to purchase for the domestic consumer at a cost of around $3000.
Agree that this isn't a solution for our energy problem. It introduce lethal bomb to everyone house / car.

Pulse charging Batteries - Conditioning & C.O.P relationship

#11 ·

Thanks, interesting setup .

Wouldn't the toroid will increase voltage like what meyer use in his VIC?



I read that if you can get rectifying property by using spesific voltage range. From Theory and calculation of electrical circuit.pdf, posted by dmonarch. from chapter II.


The graph is about arc can sustain at rectifying range, otherwise it will give frequent spark. The bottom scale is temperature, the right scale seems to be voltage. If I am not mistaken this is data for carbon.

I think you can adjust voltage by controlling your circuit current.