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My opinion:
- I think ionization require current. No one succeed doing ionizing with voltage only (Meyer). So insulated electrode may not ionize at all. However using even platinum plated electrode would not has long life with sea water.
- ionization of flowing water would be higher rate but will also leave the water not touching the electrode unaffected
- magnet may not be strong enough to separate ion
- there are heavy metal or other toxic material in the sea water because of pollution
- if the Cl- is forced to become Chlorine gas, the water will become less acid.
- there is effort of using only vortex to make the water less salty, see copy copieren video.

I often experience higher output current that input when I charge 3V battery with 12V source with my stingo.

On electrolysis cell, I also often see higher output current too.

The output power always lower on mine though. I guess it depend on the load.

That is your choice then. But it would be nice if you can provide link, it is hard to believe if it is only with word. Especially when real friends report postive results. And I hope you post link that mention testing procedure not just word from Phd or "experts".

The link I provide above can be verified to the dean at that university. I know one of their student use magnet to increase advantage on street race.

But, I don't promote magnet to my friends or relative anymore. It work but weak.

Now I am promoting female orgone device. Cemenite is one of them, I consider negative ionizer and copper air vortex too, Joe Cell is a much stronger one although harder to tame.

Not according to my experience. But you must be able to change fuel mixture ratio.

Magnet will not boost your car power in an instant if your car had fuel management system. Everyone promoting otherwise is a fraud.

I hope the study is not stupid enough to add magnet in fuel line without tuning. Even if the car is carburator version, enriching the mix would not automatically make engine more powerfull. With cemenite, I can beat bigger engine.


I have two friend here that use it and get good result.

I ride with thousand other biker here. And using cemenite definitely help accelerate faster on traffic light dash. Magnet help but only a little, maybe just a bike advantage after a 100 meter.

But I agree that some people spend too much money on magnetic solution. It is better to find used toroid magnet from speaker from junkyard or garage sale. Even some small one from small speaker can make a difference.

A friend who use carburator version KIA sephia report the use of three small toroid magnet change handling from rough with air conditioner to driveable. Almost similar to using higher rating fuel.

Robert hull once mention that using alumunium wrap on all the wire will change engine performance. So maybe alumunium wrap on fuel line can change performance too.


Magnet produce a little but fairly noticeable change. Not sure if fuel injector electro magnet do that, because the fuel should only exposed to one polarity only.

Now I consider cemenite to be better fuel enhancer than magnet. For the kitchen too:


I had taken out magnet from all my three vehicle to replace it with cemenite.

I only fast reading the link, while the title of the link is manipulating and harnessing, it seems to only tell the cause?

How do we manipulate and harnessing such wave? I think discussing how it happen is not important if it do not explain how to use it.

I would use ceramic or glass insulation. At least they hold longer than plastic.

I think ionize air and water booster is compatible, both can enhance each other effect.

There are many many patents on ionizer use for verhicle, either at air filter or at muffler to reduce pollution. However, I never know it ever being sold. Weird.

I never know anyone from FE testing this too. There are someone from GEET replication but he seems to get negative result. But he use only spark gap to create ion. I never have chance to suggest this way.



BTW, if you replicate with stingo, make sure to connect the car coil or any transformer the correct way. Stingo produce more polarize output, one electrode is more negative than others, make sure you connect the uninsulated one to the more negative electrode.

While positive ion can be used for healing, it is only recommended under 30 minutes of use a day. The rest of the day is need to be with negative ion.

There is problem with that implementation. I tried that implementation before I use uninsulated over insulated wire.

1. Air do not have constant insulation property. Smoky / dirty air have different insulation property from clean air. Moving air have different insulation property from static air.

When I use air gap. I have to change potentiometer value because the air condition change or the battery voltage reduce. When the room is filled with cigarrete smokes I set the output high, when the smoke clear out the electrode spark so I have to adjust the potentiometer (or is it the opposite?, sorry, I already forgot). When the battery depleted, I have to adjust potentiometer again. A tiring job.

With insulation method I don't have to change potentiometer. I change potentiometer to change the amount of corona vs battery life.

I don't think you can use air gap method on a car without some sophisticated / complicated system. In a car, changing rpm would produce different air flow, it may be possible that an air gap that produce corona at high rpm will spark at low rpm that disable the corona. Or good corona at low rpm but nothing at high rpm because air impedance become too high. The air condition change too, humidity, air vapour, dirt varies a lot from places to places.

I think using air gap is impractical for car implementation.


2. Active surface is small. It is very hard to create more than one corona point with air gap. When you use many corona point it is very hard to set all to produce the same amount of corona. It is harder than very hard to make all flat / cylinder area surface to produce corona. It will be likely that you will end up one edge creating spark and terminate all corona. I think the precision need to be very very high adn the surface have to be very even without any sharp edge.

With insulation method, the electrode produce corona on a much larger area easily.



This corona method is different from high voltage without current resonant method. Corona require high voltage and some current. The amount of converted atoms is in proportion with the amount of corona.

While resonant method do not need current because it work in resonant frequency of atoms. The amount of converted atoms is in proportion with the accuracy of device frequency to resonant frequency.

However, I got the feeling that replicator end up consume more current using resonant method because it is harder to get resonant on varying environment. I never read power consumption anywhere but from the design posted with many component, it should be high.

I use around 12 watt at most for my corona method when I test it on my car, should be lower if properly tuned. Car should have no problem powering just this level of power. Should be interesting to compare this with hydroxy booster.

I forgot to mention, I only test a couple of time on cars in idle condition. Adding ionized air noticeably smooth out the car idle. My car is old, it make many cluncking noise on idle. But after I apply ionized air via rubber hose, the engine idle smoothly and no cluncking noise anymore.

No road test because I still don't solve the leaking insulation problem. When the insulation leaks, the leak is sparking and terminate corona.

This remind me of one wire electricity. Maybe the diode inside create a AV plug then when the cap is full the neon flashes.

I think you should avoid using salt if you intend to use it on your car.

I see. You intend to place a battery at the "heavy duty protection" part?

Can we remove the "heavy duty protection against high voltage spikes"?

Without HV spike, can we still call it Bedini charging?

Interestingly, most long argumentation I see here is about how to treat water .

This look similar to rock battery or crystal battery. Unfortunately I don't see the construction method or hint of it mentioned. It mention that there is unseen energy everywhere around us and the device convert it to useful electricity. That is the secret everyone want to know .

Edit:It use water
I am also a bit bothered with some "Einstein Said". It is rather weird for someone believing the existence of aetheric energy and also believe in Einstein at the same time. Einstein theory do not accomodate aether exitence.

Edit: He know Nicola Tesla himself:

Unfortunately I do not have plan for mileage testing, too many obstacle.

The output is mostly DC. During one wire neon in series lit both, with spark neon in series glow almost one side, with arc neon in series glow only one side, with dead bulb as spark gap neon in paralel glow only one side, with corona neon in parallel glow only one side.

BTW, I post the current implementation on the first post.

Many thanks for very valuable tips .

Many thanks for the information . It is weird that misfire happen. I thought plug with many alternative spark path will have no more missfire. I have sanded an aftermarket three leg spark plug and have satisfying result. Maybe a halo around center electrode is better.

Yes, there should be a new thread. What I have in mind is a software that can control transistor. Maybe only direct access to hardware is needed since the app do the calculation and send the volume directly to the soundcard. If there are sound card amplifier, then there should be transistor that can be driven with sound card output isn't it?