Donald L. Smith
#15 ·
Seems cool, thanks!
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Donald L. Smith
#13 ·
Farmhand wrote:
Ok Thanks, I might have to read those posts a few time's over to get that.
I think I understand this but what is a "vic transformer" ?
If you connect the positive of this transformer to the ground the negative side become negative voltage.
I call it a charge pump
Donald L. Smith
#10 ·
You can clearly see that from the position of the transistor, from the rectifier the positive is 0v and the negative is -x kv. Very Very clear.
Donald L. Smith
#9 ·
The extra electrons will stay there and will not be consumed. They will serve in my thoughts as a over conduction mean. Something like a superconductivity but as this electrons are really free they oscillate back and forth in the coil adding in the field so creating a image of power greater than really is.
In the coil 6 i guess there might be something like 20 amps recirculating at 2kv.. The module will only supply few mili amps. I think also that after its tuned the spark gap is not needed.
In the coil 6 i guess there might be something like 20 amps recirculating at 2kv.. The module will only supply few mili amps. I think also that after its tuned the spark gap is not needed.
Donald L. Smith
#8 ·
Farmhand wrote:
Yes the coil 7 would be at a high voltage for sure.
The center tap and the positioning of the primary coil 6 would take care of
the negative part of things wouldn't it.
So you think item #8 voltage control shunt is not needed ?
Might be safer with that included. I don't really know that but just a hunch.
What would be the result of moving the primary coil 6 from one side of the center tap to the other, considering one side has the shunt ?
Where exactly should this item # 9 frequency control resister be placed ?
Any idea's ?
To charge the coil 7 to negative potential you need a vic transformer to charge it. But as i'm saying you need to charge it in relation to something, this something must be a conductive sheet in the middle of the coil former witch must support very high voltage. Basically no current will flow on this high voltage source. Is just to give the coil 7 a net negative charge. Extra electrons.
The 8 voltage control can be used but is not a simple variable resistor, it control the voltage in relation to ground, Think of this you apply 100kv but you don't want it to go to 200kv cause your insulation can't handle that, than you add a resistor to limit the max voltage. But this in relation to ground so ground is positive in relation to the coil.
I think the moving is related to the coupling, just to fine tune.
I'm suggesting a capacitor also in parallel with 7 but i'm not really sure if is needed. If so of course it must be choose to co-equal the resonant frequency of the primary witch also and actually first must be tuned to the frequency of the HV module.
Donald L. Smith
#5 ·
This picture is very clear to describe what i mean!
The coil 7 must not be grounded It must instead have a very high voltage to charge it negatively as to have many excess free electrons in the coil.
The resistor is for creating the transformer oscillator, it along with the inductance creates a filter that oscillate with the transistors from the dc from the rectifiers.
If there is a short segment there i don't know if is of benefit (referring to the coil 7) But at this point i believe in about everything.
The coil 7 must not be grounded It must instead have a very high voltage to charge it negatively as to have many excess free electrons in the coil.
The resistor is for creating the transformer oscillator, it along with the inductance creates a filter that oscillate with the transistors from the dc from the rectifiers.
If there is a short segment there i don't know if is of benefit (referring to the coil 7) But at this point i believe in about everything.
Donald L. Smith
#3 ·
Dont lose the last discussion about how to break the bounds of water molecule. Voltage does Work!!! And Here is why!!
Very related even if is exactly the opposite thing!
Very related even if is exactly the opposite thing!
Donald L. Smith
#2 ·
I believe that having excess electrons The circuit will generate power by the already the unity electrons in the coil moving than making the extra electrons also flow by the electro - and magnetic flux interaction.
There are two tank circuits. One is in the input circuit witch comprise a capacitor and a coil of 10 turns in parallel and driven by the 2kv NST power supply. Than this induce the current on the other coil but this second coil (50 turns bare coper) also have a capacitor in parallel and in addiction it has a mean for developing a very high negative voltage on it. (excess electrons) Than this will power the output transformer (step down) witch its primary must be arranged like an inductive filter for the desired output frequency, thus a resistor connected in parallel with the primary of the transformer and or the capacitor or combined capacitance. Filter means.
All the circuits formed are insulated from each other.
The gap having in the middle the ground might be a way to concentrate electrons on the coil.
Other way would be to form with this coil a capacitance in reference to an electrode inside the coil former. This way you just get another very high voltage transformer and charge the outer coil negatively.
You must mind the perturbation.
There are two tank circuits. One is in the input circuit witch comprise a capacitor and a coil of 10 turns in parallel and driven by the 2kv NST power supply. Than this induce the current on the other coil but this second coil (50 turns bare coper) also have a capacitor in parallel and in addiction it has a mean for developing a very high negative voltage on it. (excess electrons) Than this will power the output transformer (step down) witch its primary must be arranged like an inductive filter for the desired output frequency, thus a resistor connected in parallel with the primary of the transformer and or the capacitor or combined capacitance. Filter means.
All the circuits formed are insulated from each other.
The gap having in the middle the ground might be a way to concentrate electrons on the coil.
Other way would be to form with this coil a capacitance in reference to an electrode inside the coil former. This way you just get another very high voltage transformer and charge the outer coil negatively.
You must mind the perturbation.
Donald L. Smith
#1 ·
I think that the secret to Donald free energy, resides in charging the voltage inducement coil negatively as to make it have abundance of extra electrons. Thats the reason of the spark gap with the ground in the middle!
The resistor serves to select the frequency for the output transformer...
I think would be useful a second transformer able to reach 100kv to apply negative charge to the coil. Maybe it could be wounded in a dielectric so the capacitance hold the charge relation.
The resistor serves to select the frequency for the output transformer...
I think would be useful a second transformer able to reach 100kv to apply negative charge to the coil. Maybe it could be wounded in a dielectric so the capacitance hold the charge relation.
Cold fusion reaction
#6 ·
Im my opinion the second and third vibration patterns are more desirable... However this maybe is not enough to generate the gases out of the water but my be a help in the dissociation into ions for the process i proposed.
Cold fusion reaction
#5 ·
Hello Silvertogold,
I had this idea when i saw how much a line of dropping water is deviated by action of a tiny electric field.
Thank you. I read about him and found something really interesting. I found another inventor called josef papp who say exactly what meyer said about getting energy from the nucleus directly in form of thermal heat "expansion" by exiting the atoms in a particular manner. I still need to get into it further to fully understand. Is the same principle of laser, when you excite the atom and put it in a condition where it cannot come back very much easily and thus it keep releasing energy and when it finally decay it release other photons that trigger another atom and so on.
This is very advanced in my opinion. Very cool.
I'm wiling to understand about his hydrogen process too, i just need to get more time.
Thank you a lot!
I found very new interesting things about the water color. It has to do with the three fundamental vibrations of water molecule. It absorbs most of the red and infrared spectrum so it become kind of blue.
The IR frequency it absorbs more is 1950nm
It also absorbs much of the 50nm and 150nm UV range too
The thing is to vibrate it in the vibration mode of interest up to its dissociation. Seems to agree with what meyer said. However he also said that the thing should generate electricity to be able to work.
@Tutanka
Ho visto che hai votato. Vorresti commentare cosa pensi riguardo le mie idee?
Grazie
Fabio
I had this idea when i saw how much a line of dropping water is deviated by action of a tiny electric field.
Thank you. I read about him and found something really interesting. I found another inventor called josef papp who say exactly what meyer said about getting energy from the nucleus directly in form of thermal heat "expansion" by exiting the atoms in a particular manner. I still need to get into it further to fully understand. Is the same principle of laser, when you excite the atom and put it in a condition where it cannot come back very much easily and thus it keep releasing energy and when it finally decay it release other photons that trigger another atom and so on.
This is very advanced in my opinion. Very cool.
I'm wiling to understand about his hydrogen process too, i just need to get more time.
Thank you a lot!
I found very new interesting things about the water color. It has to do with the three fundamental vibrations of water molecule. It absorbs most of the red and infrared spectrum so it become kind of blue.
The IR frequency it absorbs more is 1950nm
It also absorbs much of the 50nm and 150nm UV range too
The thing is to vibrate it in the vibration mode of interest up to its dissociation. Seems to agree with what meyer said. However he also said that the thing should generate electricity to be able to work.
@Tutanka
Ho visto che hai votato. Vorresti commentare cosa pensi riguardo le mie idee?
Grazie
Fabio
Cold fusion reaction
#3 ·
Just came up with a calculation based on the charge force to set the acceleration and it became many times greater than light speed, so i need to add the mobility of the ions (or resistance to their movement) and the relativistic correction. I'm not sure how to make this yet.
The h+ ion mass is very small even the oh- ion is very very small.
I don't know how to calculate the acceleration having a limitation factor lets say like air drag... Would appreciate if someone could help.
After all even the water molecule non dissociated into ions have a net electrical charge witch could be taken in account.
Even 1 volt would cause an enormous amount of acceleration without considering relativity and ion mobility.
The h+ ion mass is very small even the oh- ion is very very small.
I don't know how to calculate the acceleration having a limitation factor lets say like air drag... Would appreciate if someone could help.
After all even the water molecule non dissociated into ions have a net electrical charge witch could be taken in account.
Even 1 volt would cause an enormous amount of acceleration without considering relativity and ion mobility.
Cold fusion reaction
#2 ·
Cold fusion reaction
#1 ·
Cold fusion
I think i found whats going on in the cold fusion claims.
In my understanding they are doing exactly what Stanley meyer did. They applied a voltage to a pair of electrodes being one palladium and other platinum. The palladium being the negative electrode, absorbs Deuterium + ions in its lattice, being them kinetically trapped, the pulse reverse and allow to discharge the ions electricity into a heating element with electron emission mission. The heating element will get up to more than 2000K so electrons will be emitted and not allowed Back in the ions so they will desorb as helium+ and deuterium+ gases. Helium will be observed cause in the lattice the proximity of the ions is great and they are becoming free ions so they will have the high rate of vibration (heat) and can and as was observed fused. The thing is that the fusion is divided into two parts. The Heating element that generates useful heat. And This same heat consumes electrons or emit them and thus prevent them from coming back into the ion so it will agitate in a crazy manner. Thus the palladium electrode will also get very hot.
Meyer did the same thing with pure water pretty much the same way.
In his tech brief papers he show the calculation for the electrical force, the acceleration caused by this force into a particle (ion). And showed sequentially pulses that at a certain point turn off. Actually is not turning off. He showed his electron extraction circuit in witch he actually gates the cell into a heating element. Observing well you can see that if the inductors are not part of the same transformer you will have the exact pulse that he is showing. The pulse of the heating element is very short maybe 10% duty and of a frequency lower than the one driving the transformer so you can have many pulses to charge the water.
The thing is that the particle acceleration is dependent on the voltage applied and so particles will fly toward the electrode of opposite charge. The lower the mass of the particle the greater is the acceleration and it can be really fast under high voltage. H+ ion if i'm not wrong have a speed of 4.757m/s/volt
Voltage is = to the work needed to take the charges together again.
The thing is that it happens really fast if you don't have a way to trap the ions.
When charged water capacitor, this will consequently move the ions, than you need to discharge the ions electricity witch should be bigger than the electricity you are using to move the ions cause electric fields are not consumed.
Other thing is that the resistivity of the water must be high so you can use small current to develop high voltage across the water plates. Being high will lower also the min frequency needed as you can apply more voltage with less cost.
The gases will get out of the water when the electrons balance the ions. As long as you prevent the electrons to complete the cycle the gases come out of the water destabilized or ionized missing electrons.
When voltage is applied on the next cycle the ions reform on the water automatically and start splitting over and over again...
The thing about the bifilar inductor is that it doubles the incoming pulses cause the current coming from the cell induces a voltage on the other inductor but is in counter direction so opposing the flux repelling. So when the pulse ends the inductor other inductor will kick the other pulse back as the flux want to keep going in the same direction. But is not just this. When the gate is applied the voltage across the inductor is maximum and contrary so would be just perfect for discharging the ions.
The thing is that water is an endless supply of ions. It must produce ions to keep in stable state. If you consume them there will be new ones being created. Meyer explained that the simple fact that there is a voltage there the molecule will have its covalent link up weakened and will dissociate into ions.
He than explained that when the OH- ions are very close to each other sequentially the oxygen will be attracting the hydrogen from one side and the other thus the bound get weak. The thing is that they must be trapped somehow to make this happen.
I think i found whats going on in the cold fusion claims.
In my understanding they are doing exactly what Stanley meyer did. They applied a voltage to a pair of electrodes being one palladium and other platinum. The palladium being the negative electrode, absorbs Deuterium + ions in its lattice, being them kinetically trapped, the pulse reverse and allow to discharge the ions electricity into a heating element with electron emission mission. The heating element will get up to more than 2000K so electrons will be emitted and not allowed Back in the ions so they will desorb as helium+ and deuterium+ gases. Helium will be observed cause in the lattice the proximity of the ions is great and they are becoming free ions so they will have the high rate of vibration (heat) and can and as was observed fused. The thing is that the fusion is divided into two parts. The Heating element that generates useful heat. And This same heat consumes electrons or emit them and thus prevent them from coming back into the ion so it will agitate in a crazy manner. Thus the palladium electrode will also get very hot.
Meyer did the same thing with pure water pretty much the same way.
In his tech brief papers he show the calculation for the electrical force, the acceleration caused by this force into a particle (ion). And showed sequentially pulses that at a certain point turn off. Actually is not turning off. He showed his electron extraction circuit in witch he actually gates the cell into a heating element. Observing well you can see that if the inductors are not part of the same transformer you will have the exact pulse that he is showing. The pulse of the heating element is very short maybe 10% duty and of a frequency lower than the one driving the transformer so you can have many pulses to charge the water.
The thing is that the particle acceleration is dependent on the voltage applied and so particles will fly toward the electrode of opposite charge. The lower the mass of the particle the greater is the acceleration and it can be really fast under high voltage. H+ ion if i'm not wrong have a speed of 4.757m/s/volt
Voltage is = to the work needed to take the charges together again.
The thing is that it happens really fast if you don't have a way to trap the ions.
When charged water capacitor, this will consequently move the ions, than you need to discharge the ions electricity witch should be bigger than the electricity you are using to move the ions cause electric fields are not consumed.
Other thing is that the resistivity of the water must be high so you can use small current to develop high voltage across the water plates. Being high will lower also the min frequency needed as you can apply more voltage with less cost.
The gases will get out of the water when the electrons balance the ions. As long as you prevent the electrons to complete the cycle the gases come out of the water destabilized or ionized missing electrons.
When voltage is applied on the next cycle the ions reform on the water automatically and start splitting over and over again...
The thing about the bifilar inductor is that it doubles the incoming pulses cause the current coming from the cell induces a voltage on the other inductor but is in counter direction so opposing the flux repelling. So when the pulse ends the inductor other inductor will kick the other pulse back as the flux want to keep going in the same direction. But is not just this. When the gate is applied the voltage across the inductor is maximum and contrary so would be just perfect for discharging the ions.
The thing is that water is an endless supply of ions. It must produce ions to keep in stable state. If you consume them there will be new ones being created. Meyer explained that the simple fact that there is a voltage there the molecule will have its covalent link up weakened and will dissociate into ions.
He than explained that when the OH- ions are very close to each other sequentially the oxygen will be attracting the hydrogen from one side and the other thus the bound get weak. The thing is that they must be trapped somehow to make this happen.
Vortex Tube
#13 ·
wetissues wrote:
There is no free energy availiable in this world. The whole deal of electrolysis is total bull$hit. There is no free energy in that, but using small amounts of energy to break down the atomic structure of water and use the hydrogen and oxygern in a better way, combustion. When it burns, heat is produced. This is simple energy conversion. All of those people who have said that there is free energy, they are two 2 year olds.
How old are you?
How much time of your life you spent trying to understand why there is no free energy?
How many times, economical interests came to your mind?
How much do you think the economical interests in a world free of free energy, can cause influences on the information you learn on the university or school?
Do they want you to know it?
Do you really wanna know?
Do they know everything?
You can't prove something that you haven't see.
And you certainly didn't saw everything!
So if you are 100 years old and still think you already know everything and that everything you ever learn apply for everything, in your self conception you only have 1 year old.
geotron wrote:
The idea of compressed air as fuel relies on the thermal properties
of nature as described long ago in various talks on the subject regarding
the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. The phenomenon known as Maxwell's Demon,
used in the R-Hilsch vortex tube device will separate compressed air into
its component parts by capturing out the cool air by its tendency to
spin or whirl in a different way.
The concept of recycling the exhaust would then involve increasing its thermal
energy level.
Envision a tube column containing heated air compressed to 25lbs in the
midst of a tank of cooler air. It is less concentrated - a lower pressure
than is found in the tank surrounding it although with a much higher energy
level, is free to push aside the lower temperature gas particles.
We the people,
If i understood well, what you mean is not very useful in my opinion. Cause if you need to charge another tank from the initial pressure, and it is the same size of the first tank when it has half the pressure you made half of the energy disappear. By the theory that holds for inductors, capacitors, and mechanics, and quantum mechanics. Em=m*c^2 or Ee=1/2*V^2*C or El=1/2*I^2*L or Ek=1/2*mass*speed squared, or even Eg= 1/2*h^2*G*m Hope you see my point...
And when the pressure will be distributed between the two tanks you can't use the energy anymore.
Well if i'm wrong, you could explain your point a little better for us so we can understand.
Thanks
If i understood well, what you mean is not very useful in my opinion. Cause if you need to charge another tank from the initial pressure, and it is the same size of the first tank when it has half the pressure you made half of the energy disappear. By the theory that holds for inductors, capacitors, and mechanics, and quantum mechanics. Em=m*c^2 or Ee=1/2*V^2*C or El=1/2*I^2*L or Ek=1/2*mass*speed squared, or even Eg= 1/2*h^2*G*m Hope you see my point...
And when the pressure will be distributed between the two tanks you can't use the energy anymore.
Well if i'm wrong, you could explain your point a little better for us so we can understand.
Thanks
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