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Air Fuel Injector Timing

Started by unknown · · 9 posts · last reply 18 December 2010

  1. unknown

    #1 ·

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  2. sebosfato

    #2 ·

    what?????????
  3. unknown

    #3 ·

    post 3

    Part 1

    Using a normal automobile as the basis for harnessing compressed air
    into a useable form, the dual solenoid array method of supplying one
    or more cylinders with 140lbs or more from a regulated supply tank to
    initiate the power stroke while at the same time signaling its peer
    to activate and release the compression on another is a common sense
    solution to our energy and pollution woes.
  4. WeThePeople

    #4 ·

    How about the concept of considering
    supplying a dedicated pressure supply,
    but harvesting the exaust as a differential.

    If the load requires more,
    you loose more.

    If the load requires less,
    you maintain a regulated
    pressure differential.

    the "Gas" pedal is a regulated
    differential pressure valve.

    The way this would need to be applied,
    is to have two pressure tanks.

    One discharging to the other,
    then swapping to the next lower
    pressure value enviroment.

    This may not hit you at first,
    but dumping your 140#'s
    to atmospheric pressure
    seems wasteful by design.

    Dump it to a second tank until 100#'s,
    then continue to re-use the pressure differential
    to the first tank by venting it to become
    the actual pressure differential again.

    Swapping between the tanks
    results in more work done.

    Venting to atmospheric pressure
    is a one time loss

    The ney-sayer's will insist
    the work done will be less,
    but in fact they are way off.

    remember, your dumping 140#'s
    to 15#'s and wasting the diff.
  5. sebosfato

    #5 ·

  6. sebosfato

    #6 ·

    We the people,

    If i understood well, what you mean is not very useful in my opinion. Cause if you need to charge another tank from the initial pressure, and it is the same size of the first tank when it has half the pressure you made half of the energy disappear. By the theory that holds for inductors, capacitors, and mechanics, and quantum mechanics. Em=m*c^2 or Ee=1/2*V^2*C or El=1/2*I^2*L or Ek=1/2*mass*speed squared, or even Eg= 1/2*h^2*G*m Hope you see my point...

    And when the pressure will be distributed between the two tanks you can't use the energy anymore.

    Well if i'm wrong, you could explain your point a little better for us so we can understand.

    Thanks
  7. unknown

    #7 ·

    post 7

    The idea of compressed air as fuel relies on the thermal properties
    of nature as described long ago in various talks on the subject regarding
    the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. The phenomenon known as Maxwell's Demon,
    used in the R-Hilsch vortex tube device will separate compressed air into
    its component parts by capturing out the cool air by its tendency to
    spin or whirl in a different way.

    The concept of recycling the exhaust would then involve increasing its thermal
    energy level.

    Envision a tube column containing heated air compressed to 25lbs in the
    midst of a tank of cooler air. It is less concentrated - a lower pressure
    than is found in the tank surrounding it although with a much higher energy
    level, is free to push aside the lower temperature gas particles.
  8. sebosfato

    #8 ·

    geotron wrote:

    The idea of compressed air as fuel relies on the thermal properties
    of nature as described long ago in various talks on the subject regarding
    the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. The phenomenon known as Maxwell's Demon,
    used in the R-Hilsch vortex tube device will separate compressed air into
    its component parts by capturing out the cool air by its tendency to
    spin or whirl in a different way.

    The concept of recycling the exhaust would then involve increasing its thermal
    energy level.

    Envision a tube column containing heated air compressed to 25lbs in the
    midst of a tank of cooler air. It is less concentrated - a lower pressure
    than is found in the tank surrounding it although with a much higher energy
    level, is free to push aside the lower temperature gas particles.
    I didn't understood what you mean. Could you please explain?
  9. unknown

    #9 ·

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    May I direct your attention to Patent 2,030,759 figure 6, issued in
    February of 1936 to Bob Neal.

    The native timing of spark plug signals must be sent through some
    type of stepdown circuit in order to be useable by the high pressure
    solenoid valves, and will hopefully be one of the matters we will be
    able to solve in this discussion - How to adapt the HV spark signals.

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