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VIC pictures and Don's VIC notes..

Started by unknown · · 39 posts · last reply 3 August 2014

  1. Steve

    #26 · date not recorded

    Secondary 3000-3200 turns, wire resistance measured between 70-75 ohms between the three coils (2 chokes and secondary)

    So the secondairy is ca 3000 turns and also the chokes have 3000 turns each...............
    Lots of henrys....lots of resistance....

  2. sebosfato

    #27 · date not recorded

    Secondary 3000-3200 turns, wire resistance measured between 70-75 ohms between the three coils (2 chokes and secondary)

    So the secondairy is ca 3000 turns and also the chokes have 3000 turns each...............
    Lots of henrys....lots of resistance....

    i bought half kilogram of 29 wag wire.. it has 211ohms resistance total

    so you saying the resistances sums than in series right so should be a half kilogram of 29awg wire in the vic at least for the chokes and secondary,,

    i just finished constructing the oscillator to find out proprieties of the water,,,

    it works but i had to do a modification of the circuit i imagined... here it goes with the components,,,
    again the original thread discussing it is,,,

    http://hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=506

    I hope there is someone registered to the heretical builders to get the circuit from busi to compare with mine to see if its correct,,, the registration for that forum is over,,,

    attachment_13738 Captura de Tela 2014-07-31 às 16.52.59.png

  3. sebosfato

    #28 · date not recorded

    when i connect the water its not able to do it.. oscillate

  4. Steve

    #29 · date not recorded

    Here's the resistance values that I took from the coils with a Fluke meter.
    Primary-10.5 ohms
    Secondary and chokes-70-75 ohms
    Feedback-11.5 ohms

    according to Dynodon...


  5. Steve

    #30 · date not recorded

    Secondary 3000-3200 turns, wire resistance measured between 70-75 ohms between the three coils (2 chokes and secondary)

    So the secondairy is ca 3000 turns and also the chokes have 3000 turns each...............
    Lots of henrys....lots of resistance....

    i bought half kilogram of 29 wag wire.. it has 211ohms resistance total

    so you saying the resistances sums than in series right so should be a half kilogram of 29awg wire in the vic at least for the chokes and secondary,,

    i just finished constructing the oscillator to find out proprieties of the water,,,

    it works but i had to do a modification of the circuit i imagined... here it goes with the components,,,
    again the original thread discussing it is,,,

    http://hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=506

    I hope there is someone registered to the heretical builders to get the circuit from busi to compare with mine to see if its correct,,, the registration for that forum is over,,,

    ill guess 0.5kg of wire it is....
    Ron?

  6. sebosfato

    #31 · date not recorded

    The resistance for half kilogram of 29awg should be 235 ohms if we take the resistance and analyze the length of the wires we get than if we are really sure he was using 29wire only

    0,268ohms/meter

    so chokes has 300meters of wire

    primary = 40 meters
    secondary and chokes 300 meter each....

    primary to secondary ratio would probably be 7,5

    the waves take some time to travel along a wire,,, in this case the wire is enclosed by the core which lower the speed of the wave somehow...

    so if we considere the speed of the light to be 300000000m/s than a wave would take 1/1000000 of a second to cross it and be absorbed or reflected. this i guess is full wave... 

  7. sebosfato

    #32 ·

    I don´t think Rwalker used 0,5kg of copper at this little cores.

  8. andy

    #33 ·

    Hi Sebos
    Here is circuit of Busi you want.
    andy

    attachment_13740 wfc555.jpg

  9. Steve

    #34 ·

    Fabio

    Please read this
    To calculate the wavelength of an Antenna the formula for Wavelength is the Speed of Light ~299,792,458 metres per second divided by the frequency in Hertz. However, because electricity travels slower through some materials than others, there is a need to reduce the speed of light by the Velocity of Propagation also commonly known as the Velocity Factor for example a piece of copper wire has a Velocity Factor of 0.951.
    Consequently the formula of a full wave antenna at 2.447Ghz (Channel 8) using copper wire is:
    (299,792,458 x 0.951) / 2,4470,000,000 = 112mm
    A Half Wave antenna would then be 56mm and a Quarter Wave antenna would be 28mm
    Please note: This is only a guide to home made antenna building, when looking around the Internet you'll find many variations to this calculation due of a number of reasons ranging from rounding down/up or ways to match the impedance of the antenna with the feed line.
    For example feed lines for Transmitters and Transceivers are 50 Ohms so too Wireless LAN equipment. However a half wave dipole is 72 Ohms and a quarter mono pole is 30 Ohms but for maximum efficiency both feed line and antenna must be the same impedance. Consequently there are many tricks employed to achieve a match and no doubt antenna design is a very complex area, but you'll be surprised of what can be done with a little experimentation, specially as the equipment used in Wireless LAN is very low-powered and therefor the risks of equipment damage and interference is minimal and so well worth having a go.

  10. Steve

    #35 ·

    WFC pics

    attachment_13745 attachment_13747 attachment_13749 4-23-2011 9_46_03 AM.JPG 4-23-2011 9_45_53 AM.JPG 4-23-2011 9_45_56 AM.JPG

  11. Steve

    #36 ·

    More pictures of the wfc

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  12. sebosfato

    #37 · date not recorded

    Hi Sebos
    Here is circuit of Busi you want.
    andy

    Thanks a lot andy, i tried to construct but here i see busi used a 1 ohm 20w resistor and probably that way the oscillation indeed work...

    However i think is not the best way to measure the capacitance since we are actually measuring the time constant of the water capacitance and resistances... which is not by itself a good value in my understanding.. other measurements must be taken into account like the resistance of the cell to different frequencies and with dc current...

    He did it much better than i however since i used 3 ics to make it work.. i can bypass them though


    Steve thats very nice pictures...

    today i´m going to get the plastics to workout a cell like this for me...

    thanks a lot

    Fabio

  13. Steve

    #38 · date not recorded

    here some notes of mr. Woodside

     VIC_Transformer_&_Cavity.pdf

  14. Steve

    #39 · date not recorded

    More pictures of the wfc

    ...first class !

    Thanks!
    We can think what we want of Stanley, but he builded nice things..
    Lets hope we figure out if it did work and that it was efficient....
    ;-)

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