Steve I got A ? for the GEET
Started by unknown · · 46 posts · last reply 15 August 2012
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Hidrocars ,thanks I will read it.You say that some info in the patents have been taken...in wich patent have you seen 10cc/sec?I also read all the patents and not seen such a thing...As for the picture,you are saying about the first tv apearence of meyer buggy,and you reffering about the blue motor behind the seat,is still there,no alteration of the video,i saw your photo shoots and explanation of what the gear was...the blue motor you said is an inverter from 12v to --- maybe is using that for energising the rotor of the alternator...About the GMS video i don;t understand what you want to say with that... -
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Inventions are often called hoaxes or frauds when it cannot be explained by conventional science.
Early videos by WTVN and eyewitness testimony in WFC Bulletin 2 suggest that the earliest version of the dune buggy could and did run for short distances. The engine was primed with a small amount of gasoline to get it started. -
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Whatever physical phenomena can and must be explained. If it indeed can't be explained basically it can't be used. Despite it work or not. Not all patents are true, many of them are just ideas. Many of, from some rich guy with no scientific background who wanted to register his "great" idea.
There are many examples...
Some of them are just ideas which got patented for raising investors interest in the research... And don't work at all. Many people earn money for keep researching things that practically won't work.
Be aware of it when you chose who to believe...
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#29 · date not recorded
I read that patent, some times...
I can only tell you that 10cc sec is not possible to run an auto engine... There is more to it.. the steam stuff also is somewhat strange..
Wouldn't it be nice if it was true?
Well, its a subject that Hydrocars and me have discussed some years ago.
To understand all this, you must know how an engine works in detail.
Petrol gets in as a liquid and turns into vapour (expansion) and then explodes.
Hho is already vapour.
So, what will happen if you add one waterdrop?
That will expands in a ratio of 1:1800
Thats more then enough to push the piston down....
So, if you use hydrogen or hho, you would get more thrust out of the bang if you can turn the extra waterdrop into vapour/ steam.
You understand?
Steve
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#30 · date not recorded
I understand Steve. I had this idea myself some while ago, however studying more i noticed that is serious violation of the conservation of energy...
Actually many thought in the past that when water gas explode it becomes liquid water again, forming vacuum as result, actually its not true. The h2 and 02 liberates heat than it forms a super heated dry steam, that heats up the air and water vapor (humidity) to cause the pressure that pull down the piston. The heat derived from the combustion creates the extra pressure.
I thought this in the past if you add some right amount of vapor and pure H2 O2 or a mixture with some air, than all the energy of the gas will be transformed into pressure... Actually the vapor must be injected at a temperature where it becomes liquid under the compression pressure so it takes "little" energy to expand 1800 times.
So you need heat and H2 O2... I published in the past somewhere, and later abandoned the idea... The problems is that under pressure the temperature required for this vapor to expand is greater than 100°C so you need to generate the vapor and heat it somehow before injection.
Than the heat it must absorb to expand is given by the combustion of a certain amount of H2 O2.. .how much?
Well reason tell me that the heat must not be enough to make it detonates... The fact is that when the engine finish the compression cycle and the vapor get liquified by the compression, it than rapidly absorbs the energy from the combustion while still remaining liquid, when the pressure starts to drop due to the engine keep turning, the water get expand while pulling down the piston.
well it seems great!
However notice how first the vapor got to become liquid by compression!
The benefit to it might be that water might be able to absorb the energy more rapidly... And thus this phase transition will provide the pull force and not the heat expanding the gas... with "no" phase change...
If we had enough energy we could do this. Anyway If we had enough energy we could run it electrically.... Or with soap bubbles if we wanted.
When gasoline is burned a big amount of water vapor is formed.
I'm not sure if it will or not work but this is my analysis of it...
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Hidrocars ,thanks I will read it.You say that some info in the patents have been taken...in wich patent have you seen 10cc/sec?I also read all the patents and not seen such a thing...As for the picture,you are saying about the first tv apearence of meyer buggy,and you reffering about the blue motor behind the seat,is still there,no alteration of the video,i saw your photo shoots and explanation of what the gear was...the blue motor you said is an inverter from 12v to --- maybe is using that for energising the rotor of the alternator...About the GMS video i don;t understand what you want to say with that...
I was into it deep, and I read lots of patents and all of stans. It may be possible I got confused with Juan Carlos Aguero because they both said the exact same thing but i doubt it. I strongly believe I read that in stans patent. I remember trying to find it for steve and he should remember me looking for it.
The blue motor Generator I am talking about is a 3 phase motor, it would not fit in a 5 gallon bucket and would be the size of such bucket. the motor i think was blue. I have not seen that photo in over 6 years, its gone it got pulled. bring me all the photos of such motors and i'll let you know if its the photo i'm speaking of. it was used in connection with the rotary and it produced 3 phase electricity onboard the bug. are you guys aware of my latest pdf on 3 phase ? -
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Yes My apology steve I seem to have deleted much of my own information here and forgot I done so. Dont ask,, stupid me.
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no worry..
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Hidrocars,i read a post of yours when you was labeling the items on the buggy,i saved the photo but cannot find it...you sayd about the blue motor that was an invertor.12v to 120v or more...
You dont answer my q.:the videos are faked?you say no one filmed Stans aparatus...then what is what we see?I posted the picture of blue motor and alternator extracted from the movie...attachment_11164 attachment_11166 Stanley_Meyer_Water_Car_News_Report 0846.jpg Stanley_Meyer_Water_Car_News_Report 1474.jpg
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No the videos are not faked, but your not seeing everything. Stan had stuff he would not allow anyone to video or photo. Also, there are all sorts of people in the videos, (Not all of them are dead.) Nobody has questioned them which I find odd. I'm not there so I cant, But I'm sure someone isn't sharing everything.
Stan also had what you called a water splitter just before the plug, Nobody has questioned that either. It is shown in 1 video online today.
The problem with not using additives, It does not bring the needed even burn rate. No additives brings a burn rate that is faster and cleaner and more volatile. Hydroxide solutions slow the rate and add too causing engines to run. A engine may run on 10 liters of hho that derived from an additive environment but 10 liters of hho from a clean environment will not match up or run the engine as the burn rate proves to fast and clean. Additives is a quick FIX for someone that does not know how to alter the burn rate of the pure clean gas. I'm sure the altered gas would be much better than using additives because you would have control over how you would want to make that mix, and I'm sure they mix would go beyound Koh etc,,. HHO as it sits as we make it clean, it is too clean and it is too volatile. it is too pressed together and it is NOT a synthetic gas as stan was using as pointed out in the patent in my pdf! CA---
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No, those photo's arent even close to the moter I seen on stans bug. The Motor was big keep looking. I couldn't find it. -
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when/where you saw stans buggy?at the estate?what;s up with this motor,what is used for? -
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Here is a small clip of me playing.
What do you notice? and yes its 100% water no additives. Stevie 
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#39 ·
You done well. Thats a beautifull flame. With no additives, its even better.
But its still electrolysis and low efficient in terms of power efficiency.
Or am i wrong here, Brian?
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I did not know stans brother was trying to take donations to complete his work. I'm not interested in anything he has to offer after the knowledge i've gained on my own thanks to no help from him!!! With that said, I've delayed as I'm not teaching the wrong hands a damn thing!! -
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Dont come and tell me that somebody removed yr info again...;-)
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I dont remember telling you such a thing, other than the post I made then quickly realized my mistake then removed it. My guess is you shouldn't bank on what people post and then decide to delete because people do make mistakes. -
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Did you notice the smiley after my joke?
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They still have not let me into the vortex group! -
#46 ·
They still have not let me into the vortex group!
Pm me yr loginname and ll send Naresh an email...
Steve
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