Dissolve exhaust gasses in water for electrolyte - idea?

Started by unknown · 16 October 2009 · 7 posts · last reply 27 October 2009

1. Logic

   #1 · 16 Oct 2009

   This is just an idea that perhaps someone will test.
   (Is ther a better place to post this?)
   
   Dissolve exhaust gas in water and see how it does as an electrolyte:
   
   CO2 + H2O ? H2CO3 (Carbonic acid) + dissolved CO2  (This is a weak acid)
   C + H2O = CO (burns) + H2
   Dissolved O2 (O2 will displace air: a good thing)
   
   
   Thats about it; if you have a 3 way cat.
   Without you also get:
   
   NOx + H2O = 4 HNO3 (nitric acid) via a long process that includes HNO2, HNO3 and NO
   CO + H2O = HCOOH (formic acid) + dissolved CO  (This is a weak acid)
   Unburned HCs + H2O = (Didnt someone test a mixture of fuel and water in a cell and get good results?)
   
   You will also get a small bit of hydrogen sulfide which dissolves in water to make a solution that is weakly acidic.
   
   Perhaps this devil's brew is by some fluke the ideal electrolyte and gives great gass production and cleans up our exhaust a little! 
   What exactly the gas will consist of is a damn good question! 
   Certainly H2 and O2.
   Perhaps CO (burns)
   Possibly Nitrogen. 
   
   You may end up with carbon on the electrodes, which may or may not be good.
   The gass hopefully will contain CO. (burns)
   
   A simple test by bubbling exhaust through a bucket of water and using it in a cell would be interesting.
   No idea how fast the solutes will be used up or how much of each will be in solution. 
   
   So what do you think??
   
   http://mattson.creighton.edu/H2S/H2S_Info.html
   http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_carbon_monoxide_a_acid_or_alkaline_solution
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide#Atmospheric_presence
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_oxide
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_acid

2. Logic

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3. Steve

   #3 · date not recorded

   Lets run on ammonia.
   
   Steve

4. Logic

   #4 · date not recorded

   Quote from: Steve on October 16, 2009, 16:48:24 pm

   Lets run on ammonia.
   
   Steve
   

   
   ....  Ke?  (ala: Faulty Towers)
    

5. Steve

   #5 · date not recorded

   Quote from: Logic on October 17, 2009, 19:06:10 pm

   Quote from: Steve on October 16, 2009, 16:48:24 pm

   Lets run on ammonia.
   
   Steve
   

   
   ....  Ke?  (ala: Faulty Towers)
    
   

   
   Nitrogen and hydrogen = ammonia
   
   

6. Logic

   #6 · date not recorded

   http://www.ecospec.com/index.html
   
   Question:
   Has anyone bothered to test the gas coming out the electrolyser?
   Why are they not feeding it to the engine?

7. sebosfato

   #7 · 27 Oct 2009

   logic
   
   nice one
   
   try it please...
   
   
   thanks