waterfreak

HMS:
Nice find - although from the patents it mentions dissolved metals in the water.
They may be using some kind of electrolysis, which is worthless for our purposes (at least mine).


Tony:
I scrapped the 555 signal generator crap I had and came up with this circuit to generate the alternating pulses.
It generates a nice clean signal on the scope, but still fails to drive your steam resonator board properly.
Perhaps there needs to be an interface between the two circuits?
What did you use to drive the circuit when it worked for you? - Perhaps you said something nice to it for it to work?
The scope is set to 5V / div.
I have also breadboarded Stan's steam resonator patents numerous times, failing on all of them.
He could have 'happened' to leave things out to keep us from getting it I think...

What am I doing wrong?
My cell and vic are also shown below.
Obviously, the top alligator clip it not stainless, but the pipe is.

Thanks for the input everyone, although the circuits look great on paper, in reality all you get is a VERY hot 7805 regulator.
Perhaps I need to use other signal generators for the circuit.
It does NOT like 555 timer inputs, I know that - even if powered at 5V.
Atached is the 555 square wave generator I was using (2 of them).
If you run the circuit with no signal inputs, the two 220 ohm resistors on the TIP120s burn up.
Add two 555 signal generators and the 220 resistors burn up along with the 7805 regulator.
I feel like taking the picture tube out of a tv and putting a water cell in its place just to get even with the water!!
Perhaps that is not a bad idea after all

Thanks for the info Tony.
It looks good in theory, but in reality that circuit does not work.
The Meyer waveform, I believe, should be channel A on, then both channels off, then channel B on, then both channels off, etc.
When breadboarded, your circuit only produces short spikes which occur at the same time.
Also, shouldn't there be a diode on the secondary of the output coil?
We have to start somewhere - I need to determine the relationship of the two complementary transistor driver circuit.
I think this may hold the key.
We can generate khz square waves quite easily with 555 timers.

HMS,

If you have figured out the driver circuit, please enlighten the rest of us.
The resistors match exactly with the 220 ohm resistors on Stan's other vic circuits and photos. He seems to like using 220 ohm resistors with his coils for some reason.
I am not sure of the AWG wire on the coil, but it appears the windings are all the same wire size.
Also, the coil seems to be wrapped in such a way as to leave the plastic tape between each wire as it was wound - not
just between the windings. I believe some others in the forum have mentioned this could be a secret to the VIC?

You cannot say the setup will consume 'X Watts".
Power consumption will wary widely and depends on the voltage setting of the variac.

Thanks for the tip.
I sought some of the bobbins before and was told they didn't have any left.
I also checked the stansdream site, and the prices on the bobbins have come down a little - I'll keep emailing them!
Now I need a core and some wire........

The only place I could find that is selling them online is here:
http://stansdream.com/stan_meyer_vic_bobbin.htm

Perhaps we could make them an offer?