hydro

maybe i can watch it soon, ,gruu its like im running outta time or something...

i cant wait to see it turtle!!!! and if you're going to run the boyce circuit id love to see that!

Very nice kevin! that was cool!

OBIWAN where are you?

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Quote from: hydrocars on April 26, 2008, 04:18:05 am

Since it is now public, and it is in the public domain, we now know that when stan ran his car on hydroxy he used 12.5 volts at 40 amps, 500 watts. He also stated that each tube was 12.5 volts 4.4 amps, 55 watts. he used 9 tubes meaning all 9 tubes at 55 watts adds up to be 500 watts. and this is the vic as you will also find in the documents that has been leaked into the public domain. The amount of gas produced was 7 liters in 1 min, 116cc's  a ssecond, or around 12 cc's a tube, "that was no lie"

Hydrocars

Are you basing your  figures of 500 watts and 55 watts on page 60 of the test report?
Also, what was your calculation to get to the 7 liters per minute?
7 lpm is not that much!
I always thought that one need roughly 1 lpm to power a 1 horsepower engine.
But if Stan powered his buggy using only 7 lpm, that is indeed GREAT news!
It must be the quality of the gas making the difference....

Wouter

yes 7 liters per min, that is 116.6 cc's in 1 second. Its on page 60. i disagree that the measurements was perfect, but i do agree he produced around 7 liters a min. i say this because i think he produced 6.2 liters and not 7 liters. but he had 116 cc's of hydroxy per second, so in 1 second does all 4 pistons go threw the intake stroke? and also your ambient air mix, then you find that he used  about a 1500 cc engine, somewhere around that line.

well, you divide 1500, if thats what it was, by 4. this leaves you with 375 cc's per cylinder you would need. Now is that 375 cc's per cylinder pure gas or will you need  a gas to air ratio? so 375 - 116 = 259 and.. so does this look right? does 116 part gas and 259 part ambient air look to be a good ratio for hydrogen? EGR etc,, 116--259

then again, all pistons may have not seen 116 cc's of gas. im not sure how many times them pistons goes up in 1 second. i think 116 cc's of gas in enough to run 2 cylinders, that would leave you with 58 cc's a cylinder and it would work right out this way.

i've never heard of the automotive x challenge. The reason i have not tried to contact dingle is because for one, i do not know how to contact him... another reason is i am unsure his car is even running on water. as i said in the the previous post running a car on water is not a problem, all you have to do is force the water threw a diesel injector and under the diesel compression something happens when the block is hot, Stanley meyers ran his car this way also. if anyone of you have a diesel engine that you do not care about, try it, get the block hot and switch over to water.. assuming this will destroy your engine after a period of time based on what i've herd about it.

about the additives im not sure how potasium hydroxide is different from sodium hydroxide, i know sodium hydroxide is 100% drain cleaner, not sure about the other. i know i would not dare drank the water because it makes me sick just smelling it, i paid 8 dollars for a bottle of sodium hydroxide, used it, and it cracked all my plastic containers, i threw almost a hole bottle away, i don't want it in my house ever again!

i think dingle may have been using gas before he switched over to water... if i could talk with him,, i would ask him.

thank you kevin, i'll try and get up with bob asap, my energy for today has escaped me :/

nice info guys, well im not sure if the circuit works with or without electrolite, in the pdf link i posted it tells you, i just forgot. I NEVER USE ELECTROLYTE! I NEVER HAVE, i have used salts for test, but maybe 2 or 3 times.

the alternator is resonating with the fuel cell. you do get free hydrogen when you hit resonance, apararently the 3 phase harmonics does just that, but its not alot of free hydrogen it should still be taken to the next level.

im not sure if stan woke up one day and said hey, i want to hook my cell to a alternator to get 3 phase harmonics to super bust the water? or if he hooked it up by accident and seen that the harmonics could be used to cause a tremendous gas output and quickly forgot about the alternator and started on resonate frequencys.

we should take this further.

Hello,, After Living with and testing the alternator over a period of time great knowledge grows on you.

i have found the reason my alternator setup really works so well, it is because it uses 3 phase Harmonics, very much like the harmonics that opera singers use to break glass, but this type of harmonic that bustes water found by the alternator and bob boyces setup is intermingled, or 3 in 1.

to who does not build the alternator, atleast build the bob boyce circuit! Here is the link.,


Bob Tuned into the Harmonic Resonate Frequency Of Water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just like we did with the 3 phase harmonics from the alternator.

Harmonics is used to break things, and the high gas output i seen inside my cell did not come from amps and volts people, there was something else causing this high gas yield, "THE RESONATE FUEL CELL" where the harmonic waves causes the Water Molecule to Break Just like the opera singer causes the Glass to shatter.

The Resonate fuel cell is now understood(bob boyce) and Has been understood(bob boyce) and OVERLOOKED by ME  for a long time now. after realizing why the alternator works so good, and comparing that to BOB BOYCE system, IT IS CLEAR ALL YOU NEED IS RESONATE!!!!!!!!

Anyone to work with Any resonate type cell please post your info here, 2008 brings to us a new year of understanding what is really going on here.

LOL, seriously though,, we need to know if we can extract hydrogen from heating bagged grass, and should we let it turn brown first? lawn moors bag grass, can grass be of use to us???

what about bagged grass?

Look here to see how to make hydrogen from wood,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgu9BdHeUYg&feature=related


carbidnotch,, even the how too  video you used confused me LOL..

thanks for the video! awsome!!! now thats how you do it..

Most of all the circuits people use on the net for driving transformers just suck badly. there's a terrible loss when pulsing a transformer on just one side by using something like a 555 timer.

I would like to one day make a circuit to pulse both sides of the transformer at different times, unlike the half phase pulses we have been using, i feel it would help everyone out alot when dealing with transformers. what we have is a bit cheesy, thats just an ideal i've had for a while now. i know the circuits probably out there i just haven't found it yet.

I have been doing some thinking, and Dave Lawtons circuit Sends Square Waves to the fet, so it switches the fet either ON or OFF really fast.

I've looked into Pulsing a Transformer, i have seen that when you pulse a transformer with a 555 timer and a fet that the mosfet will send a Square Wave to the primary side of the transformer.

PROBLEMS, well, for one when you switch a fet like that on really fast when driving a transformer IT's on really Fast, this should Be Fixed, In other words you don't want a Square wave Driving the fet if you're using it to pulse a transformer, its less efficient! you need a Sine wave Driving the fet wich powers the Transformer! Why? well fast on switching of the fet is on really fast, if you use a sine wave gating then the fet is not on, its slowly coming on to its peak. so this way you get what looks to be the first LEFT HALF of the sine wave, and the fet shall not quickly Switch OFF. If the fet switches off fast then the second RIGHT HALF of the sine wave from the secondary side of the transformer will not look like a sine wave but will look like a capacitor discharge wave! for this you also need to have a sine wave DISCHARGE the fet from the coil.

when you pulse 1 side of the primary in this manner it is more effecient than dave lawtons setup. On the oscilloscope you will learn that you now see a full sine wave and not just half of one, but to get the AC sine wave you must then pulse in the opposite direction.

Ahhh,,, i think i understand what your asking,, a frequency generator with Gating, very well put!

Stevie, if i get time tonight i will try and surf the net for more schematics on how to create a much better Frequency "With Gating." i do agree that dave lawtons circuit could have been a bit better. But as of right now the 555 timer is the best you can get for generating a frequency isn't it?

if i was going to us a PWM to power my fuel cell threw chokes, i would measure the volts and amps before the circuit, not the chokes, then i would measure the amps and volts to and across the cell.

Please Post your Design here, Share it with the world.

I buy all my SS at SpeedyMetals.com they have always done me right... and sometimes they do not update the website so when you call in you will find that most items are cheaper by phone than on their website.

for 12 Complete tube cells 6 inches long will cost about 100 dollars even, that includes the shipping. you can get 6 cells there for 50 bucks shipping included..