Piezo
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The ultra sonic transducers designed for cleaning parts go for about $35 each. It may not help make gas, but the tubes
would probably stay nice and shiny ...
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An identity on IonizationX as it was harvested, not an account on this site. Nobody here has claimed it, and nothing connects it to a person by name.
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I'm not arguing, I'm proving...but, believe w/e you want.
Fact of the mater is....I know how piezos work....and a porous material would be a poor piezo indeed. As for my mind...you have no idea!
You are spreading unsubstantiated claims...I would encourage YOU to read it thoroughly
Good day sir....I said GOOD DAY!
P.S.
One more piece of logic to prove it....
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/Jdub6d9/Untitled-1-3.jpg)
Notice how the "vitreous ceramic" makes a seal between the outer steel housing and the inner nickel lined tube???(like the porcelain in a spark plug...ehhh?..ehh?)....well, a piezo expands and contracts...if that ceramic were piezo...it would break apart!!
Score 1more for logic
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Hi Gauss,
Well, test 1 is done.
I used an outertube of 15 cm / 6 inches long
Innertube is like 18cm / 7 inches.
I have to say that NO vibration what so ever is noticed.....I tried destilled. I tried tap and yes, even some with NOAH.
I have the most soft spacers in the world......
I used a HP signal generator with a 50% duty. I can run this thing between zero and 50Mhz.
Hooked it up to a FET and a variable powersupply which can run from zero till 35V. Max 3 amps.
So, again. No vibration detected.
Question: Have you tried shorter type tubes? Or does it only work with the length you have tested?
Question: At what kind a frequency are the tubes vibrating?
Steve
Positive side pulsing.
Fig 8B patent 5149407 shows pulsing positive in 2 places.
I think your basing your data on old Meyer patents.
Newer stuff shows positive pulsing.
Geoytex, I have one suggestion if you build such a nice PWM micro controlled.
We are not seeing any positive side pulsing.
Will this work on the positive line?
Work that into the outputs.
I know you don't care for the positive side, but thats more control. More variables!
You can do it.
Lol
This person is copying everything I do . Dont you have a job that pays good money already ?
I have it all built already , you can do WHATEVER YOU EVER WANTED TO DO , updating my pcb now , Im waiting for my friends video cam .
Tomorro or after that , theres these holidays here now .
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Anyone with electronic experience can follow that and fill in the blanks, even point out some flaws I may have overlooked in this setup.
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Goey
Steam....It was not steam...lol.. and yes, it was AC, but i had to have a adjust the plate gap ( bigger gap than with DC ) so the overload protection in the inverter didn't start to beep and shut itself down. AC can indeed make HHO.
I am thinking of getting me a 1000W inverter... really blow the water out of the bucket![]()
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An alternator produces a sine wave .
A sine wave is much smoother than pulsed dc , on the scope I can see that this rhytmic motion will do better than pulsed dc . It just makes sense that it would .
I have a 300W pure sine wave inverter and with the right plate spacing the gas output is extreme.
Have read that inverters can today have a efficiency up to 95% comparing the input and output.. but the energy in the HHO gas produced is at the moment unknown for me... Didn't Master Steve use a inverter for that motorbike idling?...Hmmm![]()
Maybe you rectified it to DC first? Master Steve used 2 VIC's with blocking diodes and resonating chokes in where he got LC resonance and he busted water with 40Kv and 1mA, producing a massive 100ltres per second.![]()
But i just forgot how to replicate it..![]()
Steve
That's a sad thing.![]()
as always, it seems many people do have some good results but no other can replicate it because there are no good documents. and if there are good documents (like ravi) it does not work.
i'm intrigued by warps post but i never read something about 3500rpm, an alternator or that FQA30N40. It's probably because i did not read every post of every account he is using word for word, but if you could make like a document where you collect your knowledge, in a way that the others from this forum can understand and then replicate (i'm sure there would be enough people to try it), we could all get this working together. communication is really the problem, everyone is doing his own stuff, there is so much false information, and everyone would have to figure it out for himself, not to say most of the people at the waterfuelcell.org forum for example don't have any clue about electronics and mess things up more.
when the first step (getting more HHO energy than you put in via electricity) it's not important if you cannot run YOUR car on this immediately. there are plenty of options afterwards. (even stan ran only a lightweight dunebuggy with it)
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I don't know what I need to do to get people to see the connection!!!!
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What microcontroller are you using, the pic?
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A way to control the voltage by external input, for example, if one of us ever put this thing in a car, it would be nice to be able to vary the voltage with the gas pedal, so you would need an input to your circuit for external control of the input voltage and/or the duty cycle and/or gating... since each can control gas production, depending on the set up. You can't really play with the dials when you are trying to drive. This might be complicated or beyond the scope of this device, but I'm just throwing it out there![]()
If you have a sweeper and pll, then there is no use for a frequency dial, but i guess you would want dials to play with gating, duty, and input voltage from 0-12 volts.
It might be interesting if you could have a memory in it, (like an SD Card) that would log the action of the device for several aspects, like frequencies that resonance was found at, and then use this to find effective sweep ranges.
If you wanted to get extremely fancy, for the sake of throwing out ideas, if you could come across an electronic gas flow gauge and pressure gauge, and have these as inputs to your circuit, then have the readings from these gauges matched up with the voltage/duty/gate/frequency and such, and then logged in your memory stick, for analysis.
Do you have a rough estimate on the price range of this device? And time-frame of completion?
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