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An identity on IonizationX as it was harvested, not an account on this site. Nobody here has claimed it, and nothing connects it to a person by name.

heres another gift from me of insight,

.....   all the negative electron density builds in the north because earths more reflective on this side of the hemisphere?  so it attracts the electron density??? the south is all about simplicity compared to us.. they are not bombarded with dense electron count in capacitance volume sense.. it cause a 180 perspective of way in living.... the money spot in life for balance is by the equator..   vice versa means everything in nature has a 180 reflection..

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Interesting.  I've inspected numerous pressure vessels and tanks all over the US and Canada. Did you know that natural thinning of the shell in CFe tanks (i.e. A36 and 516-70 materials) is always greater at magnetic North? Especially when the solution in the tank is on the caustic side of pH. I always wondered what the phenomina for tanks looks like South of the equator. Wait a minute...
 
What directions do hurricanes spin North or South of the equator?

The mriaculous physics of God's creation has always intrigued me.

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I believe we touched opon something interresting yesterday , outlaw was thoerizing on this .

I said the following .

So what if it were possible to *pump* our water (dipole) , I believe this is what Stan was referring too , this is the broken symetry we are after , this is how I believe Daniel Dingel was creating electricity , this is what Stephen Meyers was saying . The *art of pumping*

What if we could do this , would the water then be charged ( like a capacitor ) , could we then apply a polarizing force using the waters *own magical charge* to break itself in a unipolar way with a diode in the circuit .

Or maybe this is just the way the gas gets more GTNT power .

Plz discuss ,  I believe this hypothesis takes into account why we simply cant charge our water capacitor and fills in the blank holes .


I always liked the way Stan's cell was pressurized. (He had a PRV - Pressure Relief Valve attached of course) So many of other cells being tested are being operated at atmospheric pressures. Does HHO generation increase as pressure is increased?

I see so many tube cell designs securing the tubes very well, thus, the mechanical force of some of these new cell designs inhibiting the resonance properties of the tubes while the electromagnetic generated signals are applied. Stan only secured the base of his inner  tube and used spring steel for the outer tube.

Maybe it's the pumping action that occurs when bubbles rise to the surface pulling more water up between the tubes to be electromatically charged.

I like the fact that Stan used the bump method with power on/off/on/off. Maybe it was also the reason he chose 304 stainless over 316 stainless in his tube design. 304 of course is slightly ferromagnetic. Power off was enough to allow the gas bubble to separate/release from the tube and escape, while the residual magnetic property in the 304 tube material maintained water molecule electron alignment until the next "on" phase could separate. So what if the water gets a little dirty.

Per Admiral Griffin, Stan delberately deoptomized his demonstration cell used in his 1980 patent and used 14" length tubes. Why are 27" length tubes reported as being optimal and so explosion risky? Why is snow white? ;D

I personnally did a tube test and even though  both inner and outer tubes weighed the same with the smaller tube being about an inch longer the resonant frequencies of each didn't match. I will need to notch the outer tube so they both ring the same (like tuning forks).

Thanks for your Tom Beardin link Dankie! I'll have to study this more.

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Thanks for your input nogarats. What I'm trying to accomplish and experiment with is to get both outer and inner tubes "in tune" with each other. I'm also going for a "loose" fit. The amplitude gain you get at certain harmonic frequencies when looseness is also involved really shakes things to pieces. That's why motor bearings tear up and pumps explode. I noticed that in Stan's designs the base of his outer tubes were held in place by spring steel and inner tubes used base clips and neither were hard fastened. With the magnetism/capacitor state you should keep the H2O polarized and the pulses and vibrations should not only crack H2O but also continuously shake the H & O formations off the tubes and make room for more H & O generation. As you "pull" the magnetized/capacitor states between the tubes using looseness, you will gain stronger vibrations in my opinion. That is what I am attempting and want to test. I'm interested in the piezoelectric effect whereas mechanical/electrical energy interchanges (vibrations), as well as, the polarization and electrolysis splitting the H2O.

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I have 2 small tubes I am expermenting with right now.

One is 7/16" dia x 5-19/32" length x .028 wall.
The other is 5/16" dia x 8-11/16" length x .028 wall.

They both weigh 27.5 grams.

Interestingly, when you hit them like tuning forks, the larger dia. tube is higher pitched.

I am looking at using a vibration analyser to find the critical resonant frequencies of each and shorten the smaller diameter tube to match resonance.

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Thanks lapperl. I agree. So I tightened everything up and going with Sched 40 Clear PVC. It's rated 110 PSI ... more than enough for me.

Spike and CarbedNotch... I appreciate your concern with wall thickness and gap. Do you guys have better luck pushing high amps to generate HHO in your cells?

What I'm attempting is to follow what SM used for his wall thicknesses. I want to get the tubes to "ring" more easily so that's why the thinner material. The gap is what I believe that SM used to help get the + and - into more of a capacitor state useing the natural resistance in the water. I want to see how much charge i can get the tubes to maintain between pulse/partial disharge states so the constant magnitism in the 304L material will continually keep the water polarized. 304 has a little iron in it and is slightly ferromagnetic. I'm planning around a 14" tube length right now and still ironing out the details in the elevation design.

Thanks all for your feedback.

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I've been researching and now started to put together my first cell following SM's work.

I would appreciate any comments based on your past experience or mistakes. Thanks!

Here's my Plan View. Working on Elevation View now.

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If you are formulating cells for resonance I would like to recommend not to forget the fibonacci number (Golden measure, golden rule, or whatever you wish to call it). 

1 X 1.618

If the width is 1' then the length is 1.618'  or some derivative of these two.

This number appears in nature and man-made things very often.

I was researching fibonacci/resonance/vibration and located this. It's a c/p that I thought some might be interested in reviewing.

Sounds like there is some type of Harmonic ORDER of magic numbers for water fracture to occur. Maybe 620, then 630, finally 600.

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May 6, 1990
Dr. Andrija Puharich's vibratory method of breakin
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 May 6, 1990

Vibrations that Split Molecules
Produce Energy


Seawater - or even dirty rainwater - could be transmuted into fuel through a new technique serendipitously discovered by a researcher in medical electronics.

Dr. Andrija Puharich has found a way to split water molecules by tuning in on the vibrations of their atoms and breaking the molecules into hydrogen, which could become fuel, and oxygen.

Alternating-current impulses augment naturally occurring vibrations in the H2O molecules. By boosting the vibrations out of control, Puharich makes the molecules fly apart into the component atoms.

He likens the water-splitting effect to the way soldiers marching in step across a bridge risk damaging the structure by making it vibrate at a critical, stress-producing rate.

Electrolysis by simple direct current would create hydrogen and oxygen with a net energy efficiency of only 54 percent, according to Puharich, a Virginia-based inventor. But he says his alternating-current system reaches better than 90 per cent efficiency.

A former physician, Puharich discovered the water-splitting technique a dozen years ago but has only recently presented his findings publicly.

Originally, he was investigating the DISRUPTIVE EFFECT of electrical resonances on blood clots and noticed a peculiar thing: in dilute blood, a SPECIFIC FREQUENCY made bubbles appear in the liquid.

Lab analysis showed that the bubbles were composed of oxygen and hydrogen.

A barrel-shaped cavity contains the water in Puharich's recently refined system. He introduces alternating current at A KEY FREQUENCY of 600 cycles per second.

The cavity resonates with the impulses in somewhat the same way the body of a violin resonates with the sound of one string, ADDING HIGHER AND LOWER HARMONICS TO THE PRINCIPAL TONE.

The additional harmonics, Puharich says, cause the proton in the hydrogen atom TO ROTATE, further forcing the hydrogen to split from the oxygen.

Puharich suggests that the splitting energy could be provided by solar or wind generators. The hydrogen could then be stored and used conveniently in fuel cells or hydrogen-powered cars.

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Vangard notes...

This paper is quite astounding in that it correlates with Keelys' claim that water can be progressively dissociated at 620, 630 and 12,000 cycles per second. These are on the molecular, atomic and etheric levels respectively.

It is interesting that the etheric level of 12,000 / 20 = 600 (Puharich's frequency) found by original experimentation. This 600 cps frequency is therefore a harmonic of the 12,000 cps frequency which Puharich discovered.

Keely also claims that the disruption of water occurs at 42,800 cycles per second.


The direct quote from the book "Keely and His Discoveries" by Bloomfield Moore, published in 1893 ;

"The orders of intensification for accelerating dissociation would not be understood by any explanations that could be made, if unaccompanied by the demonstrations witnessed by the late Professor Leidy, Dr. Brinton, and others.

"When the ether flows from a tube, its negative centre represents molecular sub-division carrying interstitially (or between its molecules) the lowest order of liberated ozone.

"This is the first order of ozone and its wonderfully refreshing and vitalizing to those who breathe it.

"The second order, or atomic separation, releases a much higher grade of ozone; in fact, too pure for inhalation, is the one that has been (though attended withe much danger to the operator) utilized by Keely in his carbon register to produce the circuit of high vibration that breaks up the molecular magnetism which is recognized as cohesion.

"The acceleration of these orders is governed by the introductory impulse on a certain combination of vibratory chords, arranged for this purpose in the instrument, with which Keely dissociates the elements of water, and which he calls a Liberator.

"In molecular dissociation one fork of 620 is used, setting the chords on the first octave.

"In atomic separation two forks, one of 620 and one of 630 per second; setting the chords on the second octave.

"In the etheric three forks; one of 620, one of 630, and one of 12,000, setting the chords on the third octave.

As a matter of further clarification, Keely states that you cannot DIRECTLY dissociate a single level of aggregation due to the shell structure of matter.

In other words, if you wish to dissociate the Atomic level, you must first dissociate the molecular to be able to get to the atomic. That follows also if you wish to dissociate the etheric, you must disrupt the molecular AND the atomic, THEN the etheric.

Keely refers to this technique as progressive dissociation.

In 1988, we had Andrija Puharich in Dallas for about 4 days as a joint speaker for Vangard Sciences and MUFON Metroplex. We spent many hours with Andrija and discussed a wide variety of subjects.

At that time, I asked him about this experiment and he said the original research was done in the late 50's, early 60's by him in a dual attempt. One was to selectively remove gases from the blood and the other to dissolve clots.

Andrija had not heard of Keely or his work with dissociation or disruption of matter with acoustic frequencies. He was quite interested that the work had been done almost 100 years ago and wanted to know more about Keely.

Dr. Puharich has dropped out of sight over the last few years, so we have lost contact with him. He was at that time (1988) very concerned about the ecology and was working on some type of retreat for future hard times.

They were re-building an old hydro-electric power system fed by a small lake on the land they had in Virginia. Puharich at that time was living on land donated by R. J. Reynolds.

We heard recently that Reynolds was attempting to get the land back. Since we have not seen or heard from Andrija in about 2 years, we don't know what is going on with him.

We hope this information is of use in your researches.

As with all Vangard information and KeelyNet text files, you are free to reproduce or distribute as you wish.

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