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tesluh wrote:

Thank you, I'm guessing its a brushed motor, would rather not disassemble it to find out, the original batteries are like back up UPS batteries, the marine deep cycle I want to use is about 6 times the size.
Hello Tesluh,

Yes, your guess was good, it is a Brushed Motor, 16 poles, four stators, four brushes.

The only killer I see is the volume-weight ratio of the deep cycle which should be over six times greater than OEM Batteries, adding all that weight to motor plus driver weight. However, the good thing is the life and operating duty of a deep cycle which is greater than any smaller or other type batteries.

I particularly do not like the first two boosters...they have "range input" plus "range output", which goes too wide like from 12V to 83V In...and out 24-48V and normally they are designed to work with low duty applications...do not see robust FET's there with heat sinks...for example.

The third one (360W) would be your best choice...more robust, heat sink, etc...plus accurate, specific (not ranged) Input-Output.

Your Motor is a 24V 250W, which means it draws 10.41 Amps approx...however, that amp draw may increase when loaded...so, it is better to go a bit above wattage to play safe with a 360W Booster.

I would put a 15A inline fuse between motor and booster (in just one of the two wires going to motor) so you do not fry booster because motor is demanding higher than 15 A from source, when all weight is loaded...if it blows that fuse means motor is requesting higher than 15A...and longer running time may toast your booster.

Put the booster in a ventilated area, like front of the bike...and keep checking temp as it is driven...


Good luck and happy biking



Ufopolitics

tesluh wrote:

Please move this thread if it's in the wrong place. I have a kids ride-on electric motorcycle, the sealed lead acid batteries are finished and I haven't been able to rejuvenate them. Instead of paying for expensive exact replacements I want to use a marine deep cycle 12v battery to power the toy. How do I step up the voltage to run a 24v dc motor off of a 12v battery.

I could use group u1 lawnmower batteries if I had to but the marine deep cycle is sitting here ready to go. Looked briefly at a voltage doubler as well as a boost converter circuit. Any suggestions?
Hello Tesluh,

There are some things to know before giving some advice with a 12V deep cycle.

Like the weight of the deep cycle versus the two OEM batteries adding 24V...?

What kind of motor does it have?...BLDC or Brushed...?

What type of controller derives from the above motor type?

If the weight of one deep cycle is less than the two OEM (I doubt it, though)...then it would be ok...but still depends upon motor-controller type to make the conversion.

If it is a Brushed type would be easier...but a brushless brings a specific controller...which only would run with proper Volts-Amps...

A Brushed Motor could be modified to run on 12V by reducing the amount of wire turns on rotor to about half of what it has now...unless its rotor winds are epoxied which would make it more difficult.

A Boost converter would rise voltage but would reduce amps...and so depending on OEM running amperage versus deep cycle amps hours...it could or could not be done.

Hope this was helpful...


Regards


Ufopolitics
Hello Vidbid

Hello Guys, Hello Vidbid,

Michael is right Guys...I posted that also on my Thread, after Vid introduce this CORE Tech...

Look at Capstan Motors for NEW Generation Tape Camcorders...don't go that far to the 70's...please!

I do not have the time to do that search...or load pic's here etc...but I have them...and I know them well.

You will see printed circuit boards stators, with some nicely layered coils within board...also they are AXIAL, NOT RADIAL...So it is worthless to compare an OLD Radial type VCR versus a freshly made 2014 Brushless Higher Tech.

Related to a "Motor of the Future"...it is far to be a Motor of the "Future"...please give me regeneration while accelerating...give me very small battery packs that look ridiculously small compared to motor size...that, to my understanding are Technologies of the Future for Electrodynamics.

I see a very nice compacted whole motor, I see an improvement by having "printed coils" layered down in very compact levels...but think what would happen if just one single fine copper line gets burnt/separated?...got no other choice but to order a new one right?...then, you will have to buy the whole thing...maybe even included mounted sensors...plus connectors, etc,etc.

I went to their site (btw very slow to watch videos, and run)...not even single whole motors available to buy separated as parts...maybe they are too new...let's give them the "benefit of the doubt"...

So far they are advertising their motors (mainly) for Lawn Equipment (light line) and electric bicycles... wonder how would they perform as Hub Motors for Higher weight EV's.


Regards


Ufopolitics
Great question...

RAMSET wrote:

UFO
yes the PDF does cover that ,however a few questions have come up from Graham at Overunityresearch [thread being settup] on Pressure in the system and how it may apply to the design parameters of the mentioned injectors operating range.[back pressure]
Hello RAMSET,

Like Chris mentioned, the operating pressure is low...and the max is at 11 psi.

Also-as He said- every engine has different capacities/spec's in litters (US) and this has to do with the Vacuum Pressure each piston would effect at suction time into the whole system. So, every Engine Capacity needs to be filled out with refrigerant til reaching this number...and not all will take same amounts.

What I see on this, is to set a pressure gauge on Injectors Main Bar, then watch while running at idle, then observe how pressure comes down when slow acceleration starts. If engine starts stalling when acceleration...then we need to increase pressure to prevent "stalling from starvation" by either opening more the supply valve closer to exhaust to AC Compressor Inlet (low pressure), or the one Chris recommend at Injectors level (High Pressure)...if this does not work...then we need to fill the System with more Refrigerant.

This kind of testing would have to be done on each individual Engine as a final touch "Stand Tune-Up"...then later on while mounted on vehicle and standing the braking of the inertia forces load on accel.

Graham scratch builds ICE's in the UK,but like most of us is unfamiliar with
Chris's unique thoughts and hands on experience with this type system.

We gonna learn...........

Thx for your contribution,and for the record I am just a grateful messenger
completely dedicated to assisting true open source get out to the world
[like most here ]

This is Chris's legacy to the world [along with those who helped him]

more to come
thx
Chet
Well Chet, "unfortunately", I am pretty familiar with this stinking engines..., Unfortunately I said...cause I hate to get my hands very black greasy working on many Diesels, Turbo-Diesels, Gas, Pumps, whole engines rebuilding (as a hobbyist though)...and High Performance Racing stuff...so, I believe I could throw some ideas as well as understanding of the whole new concept Chris and You are showing here.

EDIT 1: On a separate note about "pressure":

Each Engine have their own specific cylinder compression values...we must know that...in order to "rate" all Injector Valves and Hosing to be installed, to stand direct pressure from strokes at the Intake Plenum levels. Adding the wrong LPG Injector pressure range could blow them up in first run...and refrigerant is not cheap.

One of the things that must be done, like in any AC System, is to run a heavy EXTERNAL Vacuum Pumping through regular AC recharging High/Low Pressure connectors to check system for leaks (if not maintaining steady measurements) and to test vacuum pressure (back pressure) capabilities.

We could regulate flow/pressure later on "electronically" through "AC Expansion Valves" set at each strategic points.


Regards


Ufopolitics
Nope, this is NOT!

Hello ZMI,

Sorry to tell you but "this ain't copy paste from anything else I have seen"...so far before.

Here there are absolutely "NO TANKS" to fill out...No HHO tank, No Water Tank, no fuel nor gas tanks...as also no "Exhaust Pipes"...so, nothing to fart...

Intake and Exhaust are on a closed loop, friend.

This time we will convert the farting obsolete machines to a closed loop...where they will literally "eat/swallow/inhale" a cleaner, better smelling fart, just a bit hot...


Regards


Ufopolitics
Oh!, that is awesome Chet!

RAMSET wrote:

I am corresponding with Chris

I have invited him to assist.

Will keep you posted.

thx
Chet
Hello RAMSET,

Oh that is awesome Chet!

But I must admit I was wrong in my interpretation of his pdf...since I was not familiar with Liquid Propane Injectors...and they do have an open/close electronic switch, just like a Fuel Injector does...so, there was no "missing" explanation from his end...it is obvious the AC Compressor outlet goes to the Condensers then to Accumulator, then to Injectors Bank Main Line.

Then I realize why Chris mentions PWM or an electric motor to control sync/timing to Fire each injector in bank according to the typical engine fire order.

Awesome, I love this project, and so many thanks to you and to Chris for doing this!

I called my Ford parts guy...and FORD does not sell any Propane parts...so, this is "aftermarket" stuff...

The Motorcraft CM5153 that Chris is referring to:

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Is a typical FORD 5.4 Liters/Econoline Gasoline Fuel Injector...and that is NOT good.

The ones to use are:

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LPG Injector Kit

Therefore, all misunderstandings are gone now...


Kind Regards Friend


Ufopolitics
Thanks RAMSET, Thanks Chris Hunter!

Thanks RAMSET, Thanks Chris Hunter!

Below is just a copy-paste from pdf (SO ANYONE COULD READ THIS)

FOR FREE THINKING RESEARCHERS ONLY
"REFRIGERANT ENGINE" OR
"AEROTHERMAL ENGINE"- "A.T.E."
AN EXPERIMENTAL GASOLINE ENGINE MODIFICATION.
 TURN AN OPEN INTAKE/OPEN EXHAUST HEAT BASED GASOLINE ENGINE INTO A "CLOSED LOOP" COLD REFRIGERANT BASED ENGINE.
THE ULTIMATE ENERGY SOURCE FOR THIS ENGINE IS HEAT.
IN PRACTICAL USE, HEAT IS PROVIDED BY THE SUN, AND IS EXTRACTED IN AN ECONOMICAL FASHION.
EXCESS HEAT ENERGY IS PRESENT IN INEXTINGUISHABLE QUANTITIES ON PLANET EARTH.
CONSTRUCTION
COMMON GASOLINE ENGINE, 2 CYCLE OR 4 CYCLE.
NOTE: 2 CYLINDERS MUST HAVE 180 DEGREE CRANKSHAFT. NO 3 OR 5 CYLINDER ENGINES. NO DIESEL.
1. CONNECT EXHAUST PIPE/TUBE TO INTAKE PIPE/TUBE AT CLOSEST POINTS POSSIBLE, WITHOUT LEAKS, MAKING ENGINE CLOSED LOOP OPERATION.
2. ADD A T-FITTING OR OUTLET CONNECTION TO THE EXHAUST/INTAKE LOOP, PREFERABLY NEARER THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD.
3. ADD A ONE WAY CHECK VALVE AT THE EXIT OF THE T-FITTING/CONNECTION. CHECK VALVE EXAMPLE- PARKER PNEUMATIC
VALVE OPENS AT 5-7 PSI (11 PSI MAXIMUM).
4. BEYOND THE CHECK VALVE, ADD A BALL VALVE TO REGULATE FLOW.
5. BEYOND CHECK VALVE/BALL VALVE ASSEMBLY, CONTINUE PIPE/TUBE TO INLET SIDE OF AN AIR CONDITIONING PUMP, THAT IS IN OPERATING CONDITION, AND ALREADY ATTACHED TO THE ENGINE.
6. OUTLET OF THE AIR CONDITIONING PUMP GOES THROUGH ONE OR MORE CONDENSER COILS, AND THEN TO A SMALL ACCUMULATOR ABOVE THE FUEL INJECTOR, WHICH IS MENTIONED LATER. CONDENSER MUST BE COOLED BY FAN AND/OR AIRFLOW.
7. REMOVE SPARK PLUG(S). MAKE AN ADAPTER TO INSTALL AN LPG/PROPANE
TYPE FUEL INJECTOR INTO SPARK PLUG OPENING. REPLACE SPARK PLUG WITH LPG/PROPANE INJECTOR ONLY. GASOLINE TYPE INJECTOR WILL NOT WORK. FUEL INJECTOR EXAMPLE- MOTORCRAFT PART #CM5153, FORD TRUCK WITH LPG.
8. THE FUEL INJECTOR IS FIRED AT TOP DEAD CENTER (TDC) AFTER COMPRESSION STROKE, AND REMAINS OPEN FOR APPROXIMATELY 90 DEGREES (THIS MAY VARY BY APPLICATION). A SMALL BALL VALVE ABOVE THE INJECTOR MAY REGULATE RPM/ENGINE SPEED.
9. CHARGE SYSTEM AS TYPICAL FOR AC SYSTEMS USING R12a REFRIGERANT, OR LESS FLAMMABLE PROPANE/LPG. CHARGE TO 3-7 PSI. DO NOT EXCEED 11 PSI.
10. ENGINE WILL RUN COLD. USE 5-20W
MOTOR OIL, 0-20W IN COOLER CLIMATES. REMOVE THERMOSTAT, OR REMOVE CENTER OF THERMOSTAT (DEPENDING ON APPLICATION).
11. REGULATING ENGINE SPEED AND TIMING PRESENT A CHALLENGE. MULTIPLE CAMSHAFT TRIGGERS MAY PROVIDE A GOOD WAY TO "TIME" THE LPG INJECTOR. A PWM CIRCUIT MAY BE USED WITH A VARIABLE RESISTER TO CONTROL ENGINE SPEED. MAYBE A SMALL ELECTRIC MOTOR AND SET OF POINTS AND VARIABLE RESISTER (5 OHM). MAYBE MANUAL BALL VALVES TO REGULATE FLOW.
12. COULD IT BE SIMPLER THAN THAT?
EFFECT
 THE INTAKE PLENUM IS PRESSURIZED TO A
MINIMUM 3.0 PSI
 THE INTAKE STROKE HAPPENS. CYLINDER COMPLETELY FILLED WITH REFRIGERANT.
 THE INTAKE VALVE CLOSES.
 THE PISTON MOVES FROM BOTTOM (BDC) UPWARD AND COMPRESSES THE REFRIGERANT.
 AT THE POINT WHERE THE PISTON REACHES TOP OF THE CYLINDER AND THE REFRIGERANT HAS REACHED MAXIMUM COMPRESSION PRESSURE, THE LPG INJECTOR THAT IS IN THE SPARK PLUG OPENING "OPENS" AND SPRAYS A SMALL BIT OF LIQUID REFRIGERANT INTO THE CYLINDER.
 THIS REFRIGERANT BEGINS TO EXPAND IN THE HOT PRESSURIZED REFRIGERANT IN
THE CYLINDER, PUSHING THE PISTON DOWN, GENERATING HORSEPOWER AND TORQUE.
 AT THE POINT THAT THE PISTON REACHES THE BOTTOM OF ITS POWER STROKE AND BEGINS TO RETURN UPWARD, THE EXHAUST VALVE OPENS AND THE PISTON PUSHES THE NOW EXPANDED REFRIGERANT OUT OF THE CYLINDER PAST THE EXHAUST VALVE INTO THE COMMON LOOP MANIFOLD.
 HEAT ENERGY FROM FRICTION, COMPRESSION, AND ATMOSPHERIC HEAT WORK TOGETHER AS THE READILY AVAILABLE FUEL.
 GASOLINE IS ALSO A HEAT FUEL. WHEN GASOLINE BURNS, THE HEAT PRODUCED CAUSES ATMOSPHERIC GASES LIKE
NITROGEN TO RAPIDLY EXPAND, PUSHING THE PISTON DOWN.
 RATHER THAN USE GASOLINE, WHICH PRODUCES HUGE QUANTITIES OF HEAT THAT IS NEVER USED FOR POWER (BUT IS WASTED), WE MAY USE READILY AVAILABLE HEAT WITHOUT ANY WASTE OR TOXIC BY-PRODUCT.
THIS DISCOVERY WAS MADE BY A BRILLIANT YOUNG SCIENTIST AND INVENTOR- CHRIS HUNTER, OF FAIRBANKS, ALASKA.
MR. HUNTER WORKED FOR 9 YEARS, SPENDING LARGE SUMS OF HIS OWN MONEY TO COMPLETE THIS SYSTEM.
MR. HUNTER HAS OPENLY SHARED ALL OF HIS
DISCOVERIES WITH MANKIND.
MR. HUNTERS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE ARE UNSURPASSED, IN MY OPINION. HE IS AN EXPERT MECHANIC, AND HAS WORKED WITH TURBINES, QUASI-TURBINES, WANKEL, SCROLL EXPANDERS, TESLA TURBINE, STEAM ENGINES, 2 STROKE BASH VALVE, HHO WATER FUEL, EXOTIC ELECTRIC MOTORS, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
THANK YOU MR. CHRIS HUNTER.

180 DEGREES CRANKS:

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Above are Motorcycles engines crankshafts...

This Engine should work perfectly...and is very low psi...not even an HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) Spray Gun works this low pressure, but at seven(7) or 9 psi...

"Air Conditioning Pump" he means an AC Compressor, and the "Inlet" is the Low Pressure/Suction Line (he recommends to keep it closer to Exhaust Pipes)...Outlet or Discharge Line (High Pressure Side) goes to the Condensers and the SMALL Accumulator (Drier) Bottle (all this are automotive AC Parts) He says accumulator to be above fuel injectors...

One thing that I notice, is missing to be explained here (as I see this whole thing already) is the distribution from the high pressure line from accumulator to a "DISTRIBUTOR" Type Pump (similar to a Diesel Fuel Pump), and then to each individual Propane Injectors installed at each spark plug housing...and they should work with a Timing with each cylinder following and starting by TDC on #1

I really see no need to "fund" this type of making/replication...just a nice shop and some good mechanic(s) (also an AC guy)could convert this engines in a few days...parts available though.

This Engines could be rebuild to even better spec's...junk yards, etc,etc

A completely looped engine...beautiful!

I will make some diagrams and share them here.



Kind Regards


Ufopolitics
The Big Lie...

Hello to All, nice Thread!

Hybrids -of any kind that still uses explosion and burning of flammable fuels- are like a "soft pain killer" -an Aspirin- for a Terminal Disease Illness...I see it like for all the ignorants out there...the sheeples...to say" OMG!...We have a "State of the Art Technology"...and unfortunately...it is a majority...reason why...we are all where we are at...driving the stinking, farting, leakers of all kind of oils...obsolete Dinosaurs.

ALL Transport on this Planet is dependent upon the stinking technology...think about a BOEING 747 Hybrid?...

Yes, we all could have by now the "Flying Cars"...but nope...can't do...also an "Economical Treat"...a Treat to all the State and Nation wide thieves Politicians that make huge commissions on Highways rebuild and construction...from the Landscape Palm Trees billionaire "business"...all the way to the Asphalt...another side of Oil Industry...

We could have VTOL Technology by now, that would only use a small Helicopter Path...and transport hundreds of people...but then again...it would not be required any longer several 8000 feet runways -also made of Asphalt/Oil- (called Airport) to lift and land the heavy dinosaurs up and down the air...

Nikola Tesla Pierce Arrow 1931...made 90 MPH without a huge "Bank" of Batteries underneath the flooring of the whole vehicle...operating over 400 volts and 300 amps...to feed all this to this Starving to Burning Energy Motors...that would blow all that power in minutes of fast driving...ridiculous!

Ever seen a Tesla Electric Car Commercial?...I have not so far...only Dinosaurs are allowed to be advertised on TV Networks that also belong to TPTB...


VW Blue Motion tdi gets 78 MPG. Americans are being scammed. See Why - YouTube

If just a vehicle that makes 70 MPG is NOT Allowed on USA...could you ever think they will allow the "perfect" electric car to be developed?...keep dreaming right?


Take care


Ufopolitics
If it would only be FE Suppression...

If it would only be FE Suppression...

Only when millions of people on this planet could see with their own eyes...that in fact there have been a suppression to Mankind, based on just pure greed...Then they would realize that the damage they have made to so many generations/lifetimes...therefore, the alteration of our level of progress/evolution to an entire Planetary Civilization has been locked up for over One Century...no words to describe that damage...really.


And the Suppression has not only been dedicated to FE...unfortunately...is more, and more...and then some more...and everywhere we look...will find there was a solution for it...a cure for a so called "Terminal Disease/Illness" now...


The Flying cheap vehicles have been also suppressed...no fuel required...

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Il Maestro...Leonardo Da Vinci...in the late Fifteen Century designed the first Helicopter model in sketches and models...and someone could tell ME here...that we are still using that machine as a "State of the Art" for Vertical take off and landing?!...and it must be done with a stinking Gas Engine?

Whoever thinks this is the "only and real way to our Planet civilization"...it is really sad to know...but, not for me or for those that believe in all this...but for them...because the "fall" for this people is gonna be very dangerous for their health...while all of Us who knew this was a reality...it won't be "any surprise" at all...


Regards


Ufopolitics
Yes, just you...

Is it just me? I'm not seeing much evidence for either Suppression or FE?

Yes, Ein~tein...definitively and absolutely it is "Just You"


Either that...or...

Maxwell never conceived an Asymmetric World...

Nikola Tesla was full of it and never invented and constructed the FIRST F***g AC Generators that for the first time illuminated the United States of America...Chicago 1896 World Fair...and so all his other patents were not true either...as they never work...ju8st like the first Westinghouse joint venture at Niagara Falls...

DR Thomas Henry Moray was also full of it...never did ant black box...not true...

Floyd Sweet never invented that Tube...that produced so much energy...

Stanley Meyer never showed up on the News...running his water run vehicle...He was also a Scammer...and maybe he was poisoned...just by his own brother...

Arie DeGeus never patented a self rechargeable battery...and He did die of "a natural heart attack" when he was ready to negotiate overseas...with Investors...

Rory Johnson...never build Magnatron Corporation and his 500 HP Motors...as it was not true that the US Feds...closed it down and seized patent...not true either he was about to make a huge deal with Greyhound Buses...all lies...


Ed Gray's Motor was also a Scam...never built any Motors...never worked...right?...


And so on just a few dozen more cases...along different generations...and "coincidentally"...most of the cited above had "Mysterious Deaths"

Patents and Toilet Paper are so very similar...so...they (who do all the Suppression) know this (as you know it NOW)...Patents are a Trap...so you MUST write it in "Legal Garbage" so no one understand Jack A**...and never can build even a Garbage Bag...cause they have absolutely NO SPEC'S...So it don't matter if you look at them a Trillion Times...you will never build anything out of any patent...unless you have a device and you confront it with such patent...then it helps as you know the real side...


And lastly...Einstein never tried to disappear Asymmetry in order to sustain his "unsustainable and never proven "jewish invention"...just to become famous and make a "Good Business" out of it...but never worked...too bad...


So...either we accept all of the above...or say " it is just You"...the one who do not want to believe there is a Conspiracy, a Seizing...a Scam...done to Science...to Mankind...

Or is Your Mind so narrowed down, so Closed Up...So Clogged Up...no matter if you are or not a skeptic...to think that Burning Oil/Gas/Diesel...is the One and Only way to obtain a reliable source of energy/transportation for almost two Centuries with the stinking, farting pieces of sh*t dinosaurs with oxygen sensors... ?!


Get out of here!
My Opinion...

Hello to All,

Nice Thread!

Now,according to my concepts, based on my research and development, and putting it simple words...

Radiant Energy: The Energy stored in Electromagnetic Field Waves.

Capturing Radiant Energy could be done by playing with magnetic fields...creating a "Bait Magnetic Field"...to attract the Radiant Field.

For more than one Century our Classic Physics have not been dedicating "much interest" on researching different types of Electromagnetic fields generation, excitation...pulsing, increasing/decreasing amplitudes...gain...etc,etc.

Just a "Few" Scientists have done this type of heavy research/development...and all got successful results, it is just a shame...they All were silenced, Seized or "Mysteriously Disappearing" from our sight.


Search Walter Russel, Tesla, Gray, Meyer...and so on.

My point is...


"Theorizing" about just the "means" or a portion, to obtain the Magnetic Fields Excitation from Radiant Energy ...will not allow you to "see" the whole picture...


Tesla's Black Box...was NOT all the key there...the "Holy Grail" that "enclosed in a box"...hiding a "secret"...

That "Black Box" had some Twelve "Rectifiers Bulbs" (70-l-7 Vacuum Bulbs)

To me...that box was just the "Rectifying side" to a whole other System...


What about the Motor installed in that Car?

Do You all really think it was a "Production Line" simple machine by Westinghouse Electric Co.?

Did You ever read about the two nice sized Coils...and two steel rods inserted by Tesla saying the famous words..."Now We have Power"...


My humble opinion...

Do not just look/concentrate/focus all research/theorizing...tinkering... about just "one little Black Box"...while missing the other components...in the entire system.


We have been doing that for a long time...and nothing has been found so far...maybe change the methods?


Regards


Ufopolitics
SkyWatcher...

SkyWatcher wrote:

Hi folks, hi ufo, i would rethink the sheeple term, that is what it looks like, though i have seen enough in this world to come to the conclusion, that there is some invisible malevolent energy that can influence people, not just the conditioning, programming the groups in this physical world use.
And this energy knows all we do and write on the internet, etc. and they use those around you to try and intimidate you.
Now, if the cabals have that kind of technology, then it explains everything.
If not, then we have some interloper intelligences, messing around with this world.
Though have also witnessed a similar unseen energy influence humans in positive, benevolent ways, so it could very well be, we each make a choice to be unconditionally loving and our individual reality morphs around us based upon what kind of energy we wish to embody.
Ironic it is, that all this applies completely to all this suppression, negative unseen energy beings feed off anger, stress, anxiety, hate, fear.
So what better way to create that fuel supply for them, than to get humans to oppress one another in hopes people will respond in a negative fashion on a daily basis.
peace love light
tyson
You are right Sky...

However, We are all "factory DNA made" with a "Dual Energy Storage Rooms" my friend...the thing is...which one would be developed stronger and bigger during our lifetime...will define on which side are Us...and...Them...

It depends also on a Chain of events throughout our lifetimes...DNA Memories...from past Ancestors...Family Inheritances...Education Levels...Growing Environments...etc,etc...will "add" fire to grow either one of those Two Energies...

Both Energies are "Inversely Proportional"...so, no one could ever develop both at same capacity levels at all times...

We could have "Rushes to Our Memory/Minds" of lower developed Energies...and at those times they prevail...however...those are result of "Temporary Input Activators" -as you wrote-
negative unseen energy beings feed off anger, stress, anxiety, hate, fear.
...You missed an important one there...
Frustration
..
But again, those are "A Temporary Lapse Of Reason...

And remember this...No Matter what...At the End...We ALL will turn back to Million Years Old...Carbon residues...


Regards


Ufopolitics
Unfortunately...SkyWatcher...

SkyWatcher wrote:

Hi folks, hi ufo, from what we are told of his-story, peace love and kisses has never worked because many of humanity chose to do the opposite.
Whatever the reasons, that is the facts and so peace, love and kisses has not even been given a real chance in most cases.
If everyone stops helping these few oppressive groups and instead, serves the highest good of all humanity, these small groups will disappear in the blink of the eye.
Humanity is the power, one and all, be the change and it will come, hehe.
peace love light

Hi SkyWatcher,

Unfortunately, my friend...our History is full of Violence, Blood...Wars...seizing great Scientists, Inventions-Discoveries... since the Catholic Roman Inquisition dark ages...Galileo Galilei...Da Vinci...etc,etc...
There has always been suppression of Higher Technologies/Discoveries...to keep "Protecting" power levels "on board"...always...

We may need to pray...meditate...organize in huge Open Source Groups...but here, I know, I am sounding "negative" about this..but it is the truth, friend, We will not change the whole deal like that...sorry, history is written there...it tells Us all...how other Generations solved those Fascist-Suppressive Institutions/Governments Systems...however, we allowed too long the spreading of this stinking parasites...and now we are surrounded everywhere by them...no matter where you are, where you live, where you run to...they exist there also.

Unless We get "Help from Outer Space"...my dear friend...hoping they could trespass the "Star Wars" Weapons above our heads......

We will have ALL to FIGHT BACK SkyWatcher, to REALLY change all this Oil Muddy and Messy Waters in Gaia ...and "purify" them...back to clean and clear status ...

What ever happened with the "PACIFIST OCCUPY" Revolution?...it died...silently it went away...and it was Global...how "specifically" did it go away?...no body knows..."They" found a subtle and hidden way to cut it off...but it worked out.

What happened when many Countries gather together to fight Hitler?...Did They fought him with Peaceful Occupy Movements?...absolutely not.

I am a Pacifist, not a Violence promoter...and nowadays have to be careful...they call them "Terrorists"...and have created a Full International Network of Laws Systems to Violate Your Human Rights "legally"...ever since 9/11/2001...it is called "Homeland Security"...what an Irony!!

But We all allowed those Laws to be Imposed...the Lambs, the Sheeples always obeys, always "vote"...hoping a "Bob Hope" President...one day change everything somewhere...But Sheeples always follow the same roads, every day...wake up, rush hour, fill the tanks...go...and so on and on...they return from making others wealthier and wealthier...and the same deal, every day...deposit your legal tender notes in an "Insured" Federal Bank...every week...while smelling nicely propagated and burnt hydrocarbons...developing in so many Carcinomas ...Cancers, Diseases...Illness...Polluted Planet...what a boring and long painful fatal destiny...Then Sheeples can not smoke inside a nice restaurant...but They "FILL OF SMOKE OUR ENTIRE PLANET" and no Sheeple can tell them to turn off that burning cigarette...Ironic?...Yes Indeed it is.

Regards


Ufopolitics
Suppression...

Hello to All,

Suppression is an Issue that always worried me for a long time...as well as trying to find solutions...

They (and when I say "They" am referring directly to Oil Cartels, as well as all industry that makes a living basically from building to consuming great amounts of...it...and that includes the Private War Industry)...They can easily survive by themselves...by an already "Internal Affairs Economy"...between those groups...and they are huge, INTERNATIONAL and very powerful.

Problem is that most of human living on this planet are Sheeples...(And am sorry to say that...but it is the truth...)they will follow orders, they get used to...and they get to the point of not believing there is a Suppression, not believing there is a huge Conspiracy that dates back to Tesla-Lorentz-Morgan-Edison times.

And this is NOT ONLY about Free Energy or very reliable Electrical Systems Suppression (not to fall into an OU or Motion Perpetual debate here.also..please)...for example...a Flying Vehicle, a Car that could get off the ground in a Vertical Take Off and Landing...(VTOL) and only fly at certain altitude...say 5,000-10,000 feet...and forget being electromagnetically powered...say it is gas operated...This kind of craft...would "exist and develop" right in between a Plane-Helicopter and a Land Vehicle would be a great relief to heavy traffic populated areas (TRAFFIC RUSH)...as there would not be a need to have 500 hours of "solo flying" experience to get a License from FAA...as not to be that expensive and complicated either...like a simple Private Pilot License is.

A Flying Vehicle with ALL the electronic potential of all EXISTING state of the art technologies like GPS Navigation Systems...Night Vision...Automatic Cruise Controls Drivers...etc,etc

Why can't we have available that kind of vehicles?...Do you think it is because Engineers are dumb...retarded or not capable of developing such craft?

Absolutely NOT!...A Flying Car with those "attributes" is "Forbidden" to be Mass Produced...WHY?

Simple...We live on this Planet the same way as 100 years ago...except for some inventions and improvements here and there...but that's it...no major Transportation Changes...What is the Big, Huge difference from a New Cessna and those early planes developed by the Wright Brothers?...no new Alternative Reliable Energy Sources would everstand right next to Oil...It will NEVER BE ALLOWED, Period.

A Flying Car falls also in the Category of the "Suppressed Boulevard Street"...As it don't need to go through Toll Booths...or Electronic "Billing by Plate" Rip Off to keep making MEGA asphalt High Ways (Asphalt?...more oil here also HELLO GUYS WAKE UP!!)...And it would be extremely difficult to create "Air Traffic Control Space ways"...as there would be an Infinite Open Space...and MANY would care less to pass through them...who's gonna go after them?...a Space Patrol?

Then..."They" may abuse of our Intelligence...telling Us all...this is suppressed/prevented to produce more jobs...save the Economy...etc,etc...more BS!!

The Main Point here, is that They have included the creation of a Flying Car...as a "National Security Threat" for a very long time now...and let me say this...an Inventor and/or creator of a Flying Cheaply made Vehicle...would be suppressed the same way any FE Inventor was seized, suppressed or assassinated in the past...

Check out how many attempts to build this vehicles have been in our history...and go back to the "One Man Flying Apparatus"(Hiller Platform)...that was patented back in the 50's...what happened?...The Military Industry bought it out...!!

Briefing and Resuming now, all this crap...I will write here our sad reality...

We live in a Planet where just one Energy Source have been ON POWER for WAY TOO LONG. This is exactly the same as a Dictatorship, a Fascism on power for too long ...This Fascist Economical System have corrupted many, many roots that go all the way down to Governments, Establishments and all Political Institutions you could search ...and right now is everywhere all over this planet.
It has developed a Global Fascist System, that completely negates EVOLUTION of our Race...and there are "No Plans to Change"...as we could see that Real Fact as a header of this great Thread...that happened a "few days ago"...and the Victims were not even dealing with a Radical change in Technology...it was about a "betterment" an Improvement to keep using the farting crappy, ancient fossil burning stinking machines.

Yes, I agree that Open Sourcing is ONE Solution...However it is limited, and I do not think it will change the Big Scenario we have.

Can We build Electromagnetically Powered, very efficient Flying Cars by ourselves?...In our House Garages?...Even if some of Us would be Shop Owners...and are very Capable to build them?

The Blue Prints?, The Diagrams?, the Spec's?,the CAD's?...The Fully Animated 3D Models? I GOT THEM ALL...and it works...and super stable...and when falling down in case of malfunction (very odd it will ever happen)...it will Glide like a Feather...softly and safely to ground...Recharging Systems?...Climb High, top speed...then glide, float slowly down and turn on the Beautiful Asymmetrical Generators...while enjoying the nice view...I have the MAIN PATENT on this and no BS, I did before my late findings on Energy, Asymmetry, etc...back in the late 90's

I have built smaller scale R/C models, Carbon Fibers, Kevlar, Aluminum Honeycomb Structures...etc,etc

What do you think would happen when we try to "Legalize" that beautiful car?...in the event we do make it...say make it not "Street ...but "Space Legal"?!

Then here...after all the effort and work we all went through...to stabilize, control...and make it very safe and reliable...would have to go through "Government Agencies" guys...to make our beautiful Machine "Legal in Our Own Planet!!!"...and guess what...You will NEVER be granted a Permit to Fly that thing....no matter how much "Legal Tender Notes" you have in a Bankers Cave.

So, we DO are limited...by only Open Sourcing....at the End...We all will have to "Stand Up"...and Front Face this Issues...or else...the same old sh*t will continue till we all explode and die as rats in a flooded cave.

One last question...

How Humanity have dealt in our past History...with "Eternal", Long Periods by Force, abusive, and corrupted Fascism, Dictatorships Governments?

Was it done by "Peace, Love and Kisses"?

I do not think so my dear friends...

Regards to all, and apologies for such long post...I had to "exhaust" this truth...or will explode inside.


Ufopolitics
Ewizard...

Hello Ewizard,

Could you please add the Blog's links of this Original Story?

Really appreciate it.

I believe (As also sure off) what we ALL have to do here...is to propagate, broadcast this kind of Real Cases as much as we could...and I mean it "A L' Grand"...meaning EVERY POSSIBLE WAY...We could...and that includes Social Media...Videos, etc,etc...and links to this original site exposed everywhere.

Thanks

Ufopolitics
Hello Ewizard, hello all

Hello Ewizard, hello all,

It really gets me upset, angry and annoyed to read this stories...and the thing is...I picture myself as that scared guy followed and forced to stop his car in the middle of nowhere...a Hummer blocking his drive way...and this guy approaching his car in a "Type of Law Enforcement Officer" attitude...after a high speed chase prosecuting some Serial Killer...

So, I picture myself seating at the driver's seat on that car...except, that before the guy walks to me...MY F***G Glock would be with a nice bullet on chamber...and ready to be shot at the front of his head...

He would not get to the "where He pushes the papers against my chest part"...but in the floor by then...and a hole on his forehead.

As the permission to carry concealed weapons and usage establishes...:

"IF I feel My Life is in Danger...I could use My Gun...any time so to defend it..."

Being harassed by a car or cars...chasing me from my house, beating off my side mirror and banging my side, forcing me to go off road...and two cars or more intersecting my way.../forcing me to stop...is more than enough to let that law enabled, released and enforced.


Regards


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Turbo Charge it?

inventionmaster wrote:

OK the vehicle will start and idle off of it but at the time I have never did a test drive (no tag)

The system is a 4 generator design and each generator (HHO) is meant to be set at around 10 or 20 amps. I'm pretty sure that four generators would be enough to completely get rid of the gas tank. I had theorized (after doing some calculations) that just one generator should be more than sufficient enough to start and idle the engine and that theory proved correct however at the time I ran out of money and could never afford to build the full 4 generator system.

Regardless just one generator is efficient enough to start and idle the vehicle while it is out of gas. Even though that project was never fully completed it's still something that worked far better than expected.
Hello Inventionmaster,


Great excellent work!!...and it looks simple to replicate.

Now, did You ever tried to set vehicle at Mechanical Load by shifting to Drive/Gear while stepping on brakes...and accelerate it?

This simple way, you would have tested the engine on load, not just idling, without moving.

Another question is:

Since You wrote before:

I found a way to produce 40 parts hydrogen and 5 parts oxygen. This means that there is so little oxygen and so much more hydrogen that the hydrogen actually does not burn until it mixes with more air. It very rarely ever backfires and even when it does the device will never explode because what's coming out is not too far from being pure hydrogen.
If it Exhaust such high Hydrogen levels...wouldn't be a good idea to add a Turbo Charger in order to Cool it, Compress it and Inject it back through a Plenum Pipe to Inlet Manifold?

I believe this way the , not burnt, exhausted Hydrogen gets Recycled , saving electrical draw and usage of Generators.

Why didn't you keep developing this System further on?...lack of funds?...Or did you get to complete a driving vehicle?

Regards


Ufopolitics

Meyer's Motor

#4 ·

rdmwc wrote:

Thanks for the response. are we sure thats not what he wanted us to think to protect his project? after all no one has been able to replicate his project even with all the info in his patents. sure, there are people that say they know how to replicate it but havent produced any results. its just a thought.
Hello,

Please check as there are many more replications on line...

http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/MeyerRep.pdf

Regards


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Meyer's Motor

#2 ·

Nope...

rdmwc wrote:

this is just a thought looking outside the box....

1. Stan Meyers motor was actually conversion to a steam engine?
2. the steam resonator heated the water to over boiling point and was pressurized?
3. his retrofit kit that replaced sparkplugs was actually a direct injection device that injected the pressurized hot water into the cylinder at the start of the "combustion stroke" which would automatically vaporize the water being in a vaccuum and push the piston down???

lets hear some reactions!!!
Hello Rdmwc,

Stanley Meyer System was not based on Steam...and nope, it did not use the "pressurized Hot Water" into the Piston Chamber...

Meyer had a High Frequency Pulsed Electronic Oscillator that separated the Hydrogen from the Oxygen Molecules in the Water...Hydrogen was highly pressurized built into a Chamber...then injected through the Tubes into each Cylinder...

That was the "Basic" operation of the System.


Regards


Ufopolitics