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Ernst
hope all is well
here member JimBoot did share an update
.https://vimeo.com/453152469.

?
thx
Chet

Today it was wizzzard777 [just noticed this board today]
Can you ask Man who runs that site to contact [email protected]
we have global open source experimenters [in OZ and NZ too] who would like to understand or experiment ["again" in some cases]?
For me personally Joe cell was always intriguing...

thx
Chet K
Ps
For clarity I have no idea about members handle having Banned written next to it.
not looking for any interruption of admin decisions ...would just like to
talk about experiments with man not "other stuff".

Sorry for separate post ..I know this has been mentioned many times and explained too
HOWEVER if your angry at Virus and wish to destroy/ tare it apart ...the fool proof way and the science behind soap and destroying the virus [again]

...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKVUarhtvE

Sir
yes this info is in first post here as Quote from Doctor Zelenko no web page.. just quote...however I see only signed in members can View ...:{
I see your link has Dr Zelenko's info attached to a web page now..[the more this is spread the better]

thank you

Also here some info shared By researcher Duncan...not certain of accuracy ...but will be asking some in NYC Med field.

...https://web.archive.org/web/20200405...t-91182386efcb

Ernst...good to see your doing well...
And Mikey as well.

respectfully
Chet K

,,,,
Mask "maintenance protocol"
I am aware that 160 F for 30 minutes does sterilize ... however.. masks degrade fast in heat.
here some options
CDC link thru Grumpy https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...spirators.html

also from Grumpy a UV protocol
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...489v1.full.pdf

UV light
Ultrasonic vaporizer for Hydro peroxide [Grum had posted a link for Med vaporizing Kit Ebay
[Verpies pill to liquid /inhalation protocol]] .https://tinyurl.com/weqgfnx.

Jim boot shared 3D printing medical mask Open source group

and he also shared 3 links below

https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2...irus-treatment anti malarial, HIV treatment trials begin in Australia March 18.

New method for creating H202 https://phys.org/news/2019-10-hydrog...de-remote.html

Face mask material blue shop towels. https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/shop-t...navirus-masks/

EDIT FOR OZONE COMMENT BELOW
yes many things can sterilize ...suggestions here from CDC for healthcare providers to sanitize masks ...OZONE being a lung irritant in an already dicey [lung problem] environment ?? and it absolutely lingers in mask as well being a sponge..[mask]
hard to be certain no Viri linger in mesh.
I have found many youtube hobbyists playing with OZone ...but no protocols endorsed
by healthcare agencies/standards for treating and reusing masks.

mask in healthcare field is beyond casual attire these days ...lives depend on it working as intended,
reuse was NEVER intended ...and knowing your life [healthcare] might depend on a good mask treatment ?? scary stuff indeed.


I also use Propane torch besides OZONE and UV ...
Propane ...leaves a mark tho..
Elan Musk flame thrower was ahead of its time...

Member Jimboot shares,,good news from OZ Being touted as “curing” https://10daily.com.au/news/australi...-cure-20200404. Kills bug in 48 hours ,

comment from Member Verpies RE the med
Ivermectin is just another ionophore just like HCQ. The antiviral activity is still via the zinc inhibition of Replicase.

also as mentioned Before Blood Plasma from recovered ...apparently works like a miracle in new French study

here some recent history https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...141-9/fulltext



Chet K

See also former mayor of NYC interviewing the Dr treating patients here with HCQ + Zinc + azirthromicin protocol

Below information has already been shared above regarding dosing.
To summarize....the Zinc is the biggest part ...Zinc makes the Virus unable to do its
job of taking over the cell ...problem is Zinc has no means to enter the cell to adequate
levels to inhibit the virus....HCQ opens this door and gets the extra required Zinc inside ...

Cell thrives ...Virus unable to spread... Immune system has time to stop Virus and we ultimately survive.
antibiotic is there to kill off bacteria which tend to thrive in these battles and typically they further weaken the immune system ....sans the antibiotic.

Notice ...Vid can be hard to watch ...the Dr will be making a formal report ...awaiting that info.

Dr. says this virus is 3 times as contagious [in general]and 10 times as deadly as typical flu [to susceptible weakened population ]


A few important observations from interview
Early breathing problems of any age group he puts on Cure protocol.
also lack of taste and smell are also EARLY signs which accompany serious infection trends.[and he treats with protocol...

once patients get to lung failure ..its a whole different problem ...
this cure protocol above prevents susceptible patients from getting into lung failure
and gives them time to develop antibodies and heal.
NOTE BELOW IS HIS OPINION
He suspects everyone ultimately needs to get this virus for us all to develop immunity
and the cure protocol makes this a reasonable path to that immunity goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJd...=youtu.be&t=86

Spacecase
Hope things are OK in your part of the world ...
Here an as yet unpublished report/trial on 62 randomly chosen patients with Corona 19 in China ...where half received normal "flu" type treatment and half an HCQ protocol.
4 patients not receiving the HCQ became quite ill [ it is intimated that they died]
all patients who received the HCQ recovered.

awaiting more formal info from this Chinese " MEDRXlV STUDY"

3/31 /2020 News from Fairfield county CT [NYC suburb]
37 year old man who had been dying from corona virus [induced coma and ventilator ]... As last resort was put on HCQ malaria protocol

Went home from Hospital today to see his new twin babies

@@ this was announced on news a few minutes ago in NYC ...looking for hard copy link...

....Italy using another anti inflammatory ..this site [Tech start] has many extended links to DRs. working globally FDA also has approved additional to HCQ trials https://techstartups.com/2020/03/27/...s-doctors-say/

..https://techstartups.com/2020/03/18/...covidtrial-io/

From Dr.in charge of ICU Ventilator unit ... Manhattan Hospital ...good and useful news
Now your fate is in your own hands.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ

....It is my opinion this information could save lives.HCQ or Hydro[xy]chloroquine [ingredient in Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis and Malaria meds]]
can be converted to Aerosol form for inhaling [much better for applying to areas
effected by Virus [respiratory system]this conversion will allow 200MG pill to treat more persons.

place 200MG pill into 100CC distilled water ,let dissolve while stirring... pour dissolved mixture thru a coffee filter into 2000CC distilled water... mix thoroughly ...load 10CC [approx] into a cold ultrasonic inhaler [NOT a thermal one] and breathe medication.
Important addendum HCQ is ineffective on persons deficient in ZINC "// preferable zinc supplementation ROA is zinc acetate by inhalation 4 hours after the HCQ
Zinc acetate Quote
Pure zinc metal dissolved in pure acetic acid yields zinc acetate. The acetate ion is quite mild.



Ultrasonic Vaping is a good route of administration if it is diluted 1:10000 or more.
Thermal Vaping is not so good because its high temperature renders the chemicals more reactive and irritating and will decompose others such as the hydroxychloroquine. azithromycin and nicotianamine.


Also if medicines made into aerosol form ...dose size 500 times smaller than oral dosing
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topic under construction.

Here please only post info regarding topic claim... there is already a general discussion topic here on this forum http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/...ge4#post497256
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Hydroxychloroquine is used in other meds [rheumatoid arthritis ... Lupus...Malaria.
Zinc sulphate can be "assembled" [example pure Zinc and distilled white vinegar] at home .....more specific info to follow.
EDIT comment from Verpies
Quote
Pure zinc metal dissolved in pure acetic acid yields zinc acetate. The acetate ion is quite mild.



Ultrasonic Vaping is a good route of administration if it is diluted 1:10000 or more.
Thermal Vaping is not so good because its high temperature renders the chemicals more reactive and irritating and will decompose others such as the hydroxychloroquine. azithromycin and nicotianamine.


Also if medicines made into aerosol form ...dose size 500 times smaller than oral dosing
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perhaps ----->>>link from member Grumage : Portable Ultrasonic Aroma Humidifier Air Diffuser Atomizer Fogger Purifier U0K2

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-...983c%7Ciid%3A1


TEVA pharma ships 10 million doses to US hospitals by 3/31/2020 no charge ...https://www.timesofisrael.com/teva-t...help-covid-19/





Here for renewable energy researchers we have info from Ground Zero USA [NYC]... I will be contacting Dr. that performed this trial and whose Links are below.
[he is not very far from me in NYC suburb.


Below text also from open source Renewable Energy Researcher Verpies
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There is only one antibiotic that independently impedes the replication of the SARS-CoV-2, the Azithromycin.
...and Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are merely ionophores that facilitate the transport of Zinc 2⁺ ions across the bilipid walls of human cells.
It is these Zinc 2⁺ ions that are responsible for the inhibition of the viral Replicase (RdRP). So the best results are achieved by first opening the ionophores with Hydroxychloquine followed by Zinc ion supplementation by inhalation 4h later.

You can find references to scientific papers about this, e.g. in video #32 and subsequent ones on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos
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Note: original links below provided by Member Duncan

in regard to this thread tittle ...maybe that too ??

I believe we should pay attention here too !



respectfully
Chet K

I'm Asking here not stating a solution

If there were cones within cones [or pyramids !;} ..perhaps adjustable ? or could oscillate to adjust the gap or space between them.

tricky stuff .
the beauty of these experiments is they can be small table top [itty bitty]
we are after all effecting the micro micro world.

one thing is certain ,the hardware to play with and manage these experiments is available as never before.

thanks
Chet

very good point

spacecaseO

Any ideas on how to make an adjustable/tune-able transducer ?

the water will most likely always be a moving target and need either
a brute force heavy power [wasteful]

or some way to sense the reaction and adjust ??

some interesting water fuel experiments are in the wind for a few of the open source venues.
this might be a nice addendum.

respectfully
Chet K

Shared from an open source friend of ours..
snip
Norman Wootan posted this in EVGray

"Announcing ! the H2G Water BUS tour of USA. An RV / Bus will leave Tampa for Washington DC to Demonstrate the H2G clean water fuel technology that will run this bus across America and back, WITHOUT STOPPING FOR FUEL. The tour is from Tampa to DC to Silicon Valley, Ca. and many stops in between. There we meet with Scientists, Technicians and Financial VIPs from around the globe to introduce our technology. H2 Global invented this unique process based on studies of lightning, and charged particles. It extracts water from the air, like a dehumidifier, and that water is converted in our 4" CUBEs to a clean near zero emission fuel which improves by 5-10 x the mpg. It runs on 99% water. It replaces toxic fossil fuels. An engine test run is posted on our site h2ge.com or h4gas.com which shows an engine running on 99% water. There is also a downloadable document on the website which describes in more detail this historic event. We will be doing media interviews across America as we go. We will be riding Congresspersons on the bus at a demo in DC, Some celebrities have asked to ride. You can actually participate and may ride in the bus. Email h2ge@... to find out how, You can help spread the word just by sharing this. This will be a ride into history and mark the turning point from toxic fossil fuels to a clean energy future. H2G has a solution for climate change."
end snip

links https://www.h2ge.com/

video here https://www.h2ge.com/

will add more info as received .

Chet K

Shared by member grindle at Stefan's forum today,I have not personally spoken with any sponsors of this event yet ?

[email protected]
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respectfully
Chet K

How Wonderful to read you here....

I will Smile for a long time [like a crazy guy on the subway], Much new stuff going on, but in my opinion here in this Topic is the most solid place to start,
since science hunts here with a passion .

You light A fire under my But ,to get this topic moving .[too many distractions ATM

Chet

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ps from Dr.Jones

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With this ""heat to vaporization calorimeter" in mind for our initial experiments, I propose to look first at Woopy's star-in-jar claims, which go back to 2013 and 2014.


Here are some of Woopy's basic videos which I recommend. He has several more. These describe his method with variations, and results, and are enough to get us started. Others were doing these experiments in the same time period - I did some also, but got distracted by a very serious illness (Rocky-mtn spotted fever).

woopy basic star-in-jar, cop 1.45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1eA0u7MBz4

woopy star-in-jar variation showing magnet jumping, cop not calculated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lre05U1Bpso

woopy insulated jar, cop 1.6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO1pq0h6e0g

pressurized star-in-jar, cop not calculated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmGufAr0uoM

The beauty of this simple system is that regular water is used, not D2O, and a hydrogen-plasma is formed right at the cathode = a very good way to introduce hydrogen at high-temperature into the metal! (We do this while avoiding the complications faced by Takashi and Celani, who used H2 gas at high temperatures.)

Again, I recently asked Woopy if he found some error in his measurements with this system. He said "no"; he simply moved on to other interests.

Woopy used a tungsten-lanthanum cathode. Right soon after replicating Woopy - I would switch to a NICKEL cathode, as nickel seems to be a desirable metal to achieve anomalous heat production (AHP), based on the most recent work (described in an earlier post of mine, above).
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Edit
i see your post below [now the smile hurts....]

looks like I'll be getting back in the water too....and yes its all about the measurements ....

just a note

Spoke with Dr.Jones again today about the problem.
to recap
we have several open source labs wanting to join in on Celani replications.
but hot air calorimetry is way too difficult ...in addition to Celani type experiments we also talked about the star in a jar work and how it could be adjusted for better measurement protocols [in light of Celani claims] to better qualify excess heat.

"they" will be working on this over the next few days to bring forward the simplest and best possible test protocols.

I believe there are half a dozen on the table ATM

will post here when sorted .

respectfully
Chet K
PS
for clarity the goal of these test protocols are the ability for members here and elsewhere to join in on this tremendous opportunity to advance the science and perhaps make that open source breakthru which will change everything.