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ewizard wrote:

That circuit looks a lot like one form kooler on ou forum he posted and also one he sent me in a PM. It's something loosely related to the TPU. I believe he was getting some noteworthy effects from it. I think he mentioned it is difficult to tune.
Tuning could be as easy as winding a pickup aka tickler coil around the transformer you drive and use that for feedback, just as you would when you would make an oscillator:

Oscillator Design - Amateur Radio Wiki

I have done that some time ago with Dr. Stiffler's oscillator:
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This stuff keeps on going trough my mind. It looks like I have been a bit too optimistic, but I'm pretty sure it will work when you drive the coils at their natural resonance frequency. If you don't do that, there will be a significant current going trough the secondary of your driving transformer and since that is coupled with the primary of your driving transformer, you will have to pay.

However, when the circuit is in resonance, then you have a circuit that is basically the same as has been used for years in antenna in order to get antenna gain. See for example:
Build a 2.4GHz Vertical antenna by dxzone.com

The original antenna I built was touted, according the directions, as yielding a 3dBi gain (as I built a 4-element, not an 8-element antenna).
So, according to this, you get 3 dB gain, or double the amount of power, if you use 4 elements. This gain basically specifies the amount of power that is being emitted when compared to a single element antenna, a 1/4 lambda antenna. This suggests we may be looking at 'just' COP 1.5...

However, basically the same thing has been done by none less than Dr. Stiffler. I have experimented with his system and according to my measurements, he is not driving his coil at 1/4 lambda:

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I got a result which surprised me: the lowest oscillation frequency I saw was at about 4.5 MHz, which was measured by counting the peaks on an analog scope screen, with an accuracy of about +/- 0.3 MHz, I guess. This means that the 1/4 lambda frequency of our 144 turn coil must be at about 4.5 MHz. [...] I could also get an oscillation at about 13.25 - 13.5 MHz. It appeared the TL would be brighter then as with the 9.5 MHz oscillation.

[...]

I wrapped the power leads a couple of times trough a ring-core (from an old PC PS) and attached an amp meter in the power line, connected between the PS and the ring core. It appeared to measure the current normally, which varied from about 20 mA to 60 mA. I haven't written anything down on the current measurements, but it appeared the current would be less, the higher the oscillation frequency and it appeared also to become less, once the coil was loaded with a TL tube.
So, this has been shown to work at high frequencies and it has been shown to be capable of giving some kind of gain. Dr. Stiffler's stuff suggests this is a real gain in terms of COP....
As I explain in my article (under construction) Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki it is the active vacuum that actually powers our circuits, as Bearden has told us for years. He also keeps on talking about not killing the dipole, but how do you do that?

Yesterday, I tought about driving a TF in resonance using a Bedini coil (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...i-circuit.html), but it appears to be difficult to get this really working. However, if you do drive a coil at its natural resonance frequency, one can easily put four identical coils in series. Since they all resonate at 1/4 wavelength, you get a full wave with 4 in series. If you leave the terminals at the end open, you can in principle use any multiple of 2, since then the open ends will have high voltage, zero current.

However, if you use multiples of 4, the first and last terminals will be in phase, so you might just as well connect them.

Then you would get the attached schematic.

This looks very interesting to try, since even when not driven in resonance, you will see the same voltages and the same current flowing trough the secondaries of all 4 transformers if they are loaded equally. Since you're driving only one of them, you should get 3 times as much power out as you have to put in...

So, if someone happens to have 4 identical transformers laying around and a bit of spare time, this may be most interesting to try...

Do you need to drive the coils at their resonance frequency?


Of course, you can put the secondaries is series or in parallel to power a heavy load if you please.
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JOe Cell research

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I just stumbled across this paper on the Joe Cell:

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It mentions the following references:


Joe Cell interview Peter Stevens of Byron New Energy:
How to Make and Run a Joe Cell

Charge compression, implosion physics in water, Daniel Winter:
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Gravitational thrust produced by capacitors which accelerate charge by recursion
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Hydrogen bonding and memory effect of water:
Water and its structure

Icosahedral water clusters. Martin Chaplin:
Water structure and science
Icosahedral water cluster symmetry and architectureHadolife

Torsion fields, Nikolai Kozyrev:
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Voyance depuis plus de 20 ans, j'ai fait de ma spécialité l'étude des phénomène paranormaux. N'hésitez pas à me contacter si vous avez vu ou vécu une expérience anormale.


E.H.D. Flying Sourcer, Jean Louis Naudin:
The EHD Fs v2.0
The EHD FS - Computer Simulations

Vortex gravity control, Paul Richard Price, 2004 :
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APEC™ is the world's leading conference event for warp drive, gravity modification & UAP physics research.


Source charge problem, Tom Bearden:
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Electrogravitics Systems, Paul La Violette
Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion a book by Paul LaViolette

Biefeld-Brown effect:
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APEC™ is the world's leading conference event for warp drive, gravity modification & UAP physics research.


Blaze labs research, lifters in the vacuum
EHD Thrusters Research: Lifters in vacuum

The electric universe:
The Electric Universe

Cymatics, Hans Jenny
Cymatics a study of Wave Phenomena by Hans Jenny

Woutje Winkler-Prins and Donave water:
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Also see:

Structured water or miracle water
Dan Winter
How Water Accumulates Orgone | AEONIA
Fractal Field Theory - Applied Quantum Fractal Field Theory
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Letters of Note: Ordinary standards do not apply to Tesla :

On January 4th, 1943, Slovenian-American author Louis Adamic wrote the following heartfelt letter to ex-President of the United States, Herbert Hoover. The letter concerned the alarming treatment and general well-being of Adamic's friend, Nikola Tesla; an immeasurably important inventor whose impact on the modern world is still difficult to appreciate and who, despite his numerous groundbreaking scientific achievements, was at the time of writing severely in debt and in worryingly ill-health.

LOUIS ADAMIC . MILFORD . NEW JERSEY

January 4, 1943

Dear Mr. Hoover:

Nikola Tesla, as you know, is a Serbian immigrant who came to America from Croatia some 60 years ago and became one of the world's greatest inventors. He became also an American. In the early 1920s Lenin urged him to move to the Soviet Union, promising him every scientific facility, and personal security for life, but Tesla declined -- he was an American and had got used to living in the United States, whose civilization he helped to create.

His contribution to the sum-total of American civilization is almost beyond calculation. Hundreds of billions of dollars of American wealth are ascribable to his inventions. They are at the very center of our current war effort. No man living has added more substantially to the potentialities of human life than Tesla.

Yet today, when he is past 90, he is worse than penniless. He is extremely frail, weighing less than 90 pounds. His health is poor, and he has grown somewhat bitter against the U.S.A. No doubt his current poverty is his own fault. However, I think that ordinary standards do not apply to Tesla. He was always the pure scientist, never interested in money, always impractical about material existence.

But the fact is that now he is up against it. He receives a small "pension" from the Yugoslav government-in-exile. I know that Tesla suffers greatly at having to accept this pension from the government of his native country, to which he had never contributed anything directly. He suffers especially because the money comes to him through the Yugoslav Ambassador in Washington, whom he dislikes personally. Tesla suffers, too, in fact to the point of bitterness, because he feels -- with some justice -- that everyone in America, including the beneficiaries of fortunes created by his inventions, has forgotten him. No one writes to him; no one comes to see him.

He lives in a meager room in the New Yorker Hotel, in New York. He owes about a year's rent -- the Yugoslav pension is not enough to keep him in scientific apparatus, etc., for he continues to work on his projects.

This letter is not an appeal for your personal financial help. Some way will be found of looking out for him -- he will probably not outlive 1943. But he needs someone to take care of him personally without seeming to; someone who could also follow his current notes and experiments and preserve what may be of value in them. Perhaps one of the large electrical corporations which have benefitted so greatly through his inventions would be glad to pension him for the short balance of his life. And I am wondering if you know someone who might be approached.

A pension coming from such a source would relieve Tesla of the necessity of accepting more money from the Yugoslav government. It would do much to remove his bitter feeling of neglect. And it would be fitting, though small, recognition of the debt America owes this man who has done so much for his country.

If you would like more details, I can come to see you in New York at any time.

Sincerely,

Louis Adamic
@h20power,

Thank you very much for your insightful remarks and your interest in this theory.

h20power wrote:

Here is a simple experiment that sheds some light on what I am talking about and I will go over it for those who need a hand in understanding the concepts taking place in this video:
YouTube - Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water
Yes, this is a very interesting experiment. It is known as Lord Kelvin's water-drop electrostatic generator:

High voltage device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm

It shows that water contains charged particles, and that you can split these into two buckets that become charged, so you have a electro-static generator.

Kelvin water dropper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As with other forms of hydroelectric power, the energy here ultimately comes from the gravitational energy released by letting the water drops fall. Most of the energy is wasted as heat when the water drops land in the buckets.
Now the properties of water that make this possible are as follows; Water being a polar molecule, water being a dielectric liquid, water being a diamagnetic substance, and the most important of all, the self-ionization of water (also auto ionization of water, and auto dissociation of water) is the chemical reaction in which two water molecules react to produce a hydronium ion (H3O+) and a hydroxide ion (OH−): 2 H2O (l) H3O+ (aq) + OH− (aq).
Now you can repeat this experiment with any liquid on earth and if it doesn't have these characteristics it will not produce lightning. These characteristics are what make life possible, along with some other characteristics like cohesion and adhesion and others I didn't mention, and also it is how lightning storms truly work. Without water we have nothing no life as we know it would exist.
To the average person, water is an ordinary substance often taken for granted. Even though the cause of these unique and unusual properties is explainable at the atomic level, water is truly a remarkable substance.
I agree that water is a truly remarkable substance and that there are more interesting properties than there seem to be at first glance.




The self-ionization of water (also auto ionization of water, and auto dissociation of water) is the chemical reaction in which two water molecules react to produce a hydronium ion (H3O+) and a hydroxide ion (OH−): 2 H2O (l) H3O+ (aq) + OH− (aq). Now looking it to this with Meyer technology we see that the EEC takes the electron from the hydroxide ion(OH-) since it is very close to the positive electrode in the water bath of the WFC due to opposites attracts. This is also made possible due to waters being a dielectric liquid being able to store a charge with a relaxation time of є/σ< 10-6 seconds. What this does is give time for water to hold a charge for it(water) to complete the circuit of the EEC. This circuit completion upsets the natural equilibrium of water H3O+ (aq) + OH- -e(EEC) => H3O+ (aq) + O (gas) plus H (gas) -e light(EEC) ==> H2O (aq) + 2H (gas) + O (gas) -e Light(EEC) when the reaction reestablishes equilibrium. This is why it has to be an isolated circuit for if there is a ground or greater negative to complete the circuit of the EEC it will do so and not upset the balance of waters natural equilibrium.
This is the chemical reaction that is taking place inside of the WFC. And it all has to do with the self-ionization property of water.
The water fuel injectors(WFI) do not work this way. It uses some of waters other abilities, diamagnetic, dielectric, cohesion, relaxation time, and polar properties.
You are probably right and appear to know what you are talking about. However, I can't say much about this, since I haven't looked into this.

As for the WFC, you are probably right about the chemical reaction that takes place. However, the relaxation time, which you say is about 10^-6 seconds, is not really the same thing as "holding charge". It is more like holding an electric field for some time, in this case a very short time.

I can't say anything useful about how this might affect any property or equilibrium of water, but I do know that the electric field is a free energy source and it basically is this source that powers all electric circuits that exist on this entire world. This has been stated over and over by Tom Bearden when he talks about "killing the dipole".

Having said that, it is clear that any trick you can find that can utilize the electric field without killing the dipole that created it, you can extract excess energy from the vacuum. Now it may very well be that there are multiple tricks that work, I don't know and I don't want to rule anything out, especially not concerning the water fuel injectors.

However, when we are talking about the WFC, the idea that this might be extracting power out of the vacuum using the exact same principle that Bedini uses, and which can be explained pretty straightforward using not much more than 19th century principles, has a lot going for it, IMHO.

Now of course I may be wrong, but I may also be right. Either way, it would be important to know, because if I'm right, we now understand the working principle behind these technologies, so we can really start improving these things.

HairBear wrote:

I love your posts Lamare, but, I disagree with the above comment and I think it should be noted to all that this is false. I have experimented quite extensively into this matter and have found that there was never any oxide layer on any of Stan Meyers devices. The devices still exist and have been examined for the oxide layer which is not present. The oxide layer is more of an indication of current leakage, which in turn, terminates the particle oscillation known as "Resonant Action". At best, an oxide layer should tell you that there is too much current passing from one plate to the other, where, there should be very little to none at all. This myth was perpetuated after Ravi had made the statement and the rest of the world took it and ran with it.

Good Day!

Thanks for your interest in this, HairBear.

Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm not. I'm just trying to make as much sense as possible from what I read here and there.

I have taken a quick look at your previous post, and noticed this:

HairBear wrote:

Another clue was a statement or rather a question posted by "RAVZZ" at overunity.com concerning an explanation of a glow coming from his cell tubes when viewed in complete darkness. I believe this to be "sonoluminescence" which is an effect of sonochemistry and cavitation. It would also explain the unusually large bubbles coming from his cell tubes. It would be nice to have Dave Lawton confirm this with his setup.

This may point right back to what I'm talking about, just take a look at what Inquorate pointed at:

Borax or Baking Soda Rectifier and the glow.
"How To Observe The Glow From A Borax Or Baking Soda Rectifier."

The rectifying layer then start to form on the aluminum plates until after a few minutes, the lamp brilliance dies down to nothing. At this time, both aluminum strips will be glowing.
Also see:
Baking Soda Variable Electrolytic Capacitor.
The aluminum strip shown in the above picture was cut from a piece of aluminum pie plate. I also discovered, with either the borax or baking soda rectifier, that it acted like a large capacitor as well as a rectifier when biased in the reverse direction. I had built a homemade electrolytic capacitor. I decided to do some experimenting and measurements to see what capacitance values could be obtained. I found it easy to get large values up to 100 uf. Since the capacitance is based on a thin film of aluminum oxide that forms on the aluminum plate, the capacitance can be varied by sliding the plate in or out of the baking soda soda solution.

I would also be interested in some further references about wether or not there would be an oxide layer on Meyer's devices. After all, one should remember that the layers should be very thin, like 2 um, in order to form a capacitor with a decent capacitance. And, it is always a question in how far any devices (supposedly?) built by Meyer that are still existing are actually the real thing that worked.
Another thing I posted about recently, is the question of where the electrons go, when a capacitor is charged:

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Even though I used some wrong assumptions there, basically assuming dielectric breakdown was constantly occuring, I was on the right path, I think. If electrolytic capacitors are indeed operated at about 80% of the breakdown voltage, it appears not far-fetched at all to assume that lots of electrons are able to drift trough the dielectric after all, given for example this figure:




This shows "Voltage-current relation before breakdown".
It appears that when operating at 80% of dielectric breakdown, one does get a considerable leakage current....
I have recently posted quite a bit about the non-permanent electret or dielectric relaxation effect, which I think to be the Rosetta stone in order to understand the technologies of both John Bedini and Stanley Meyer, because the similarities between these technologies are striking, once one digs a bit deeper into the material.

The first thing to look at, is how electrolytic capacitors actually work:
Electrolytic capacitors

The aluminium electrolytic capacitor consists of two foils interleaved with an absorbent paper, and wound tightly into a cylinder. The positive foil, or anode, is made from pure aluminium foil on the surface of which aluminium oxide dielectric has been formed electrolyticallyalso to repair any flaws in the oxide layer when the capacitor is polarised. The function of the aluminium cathode foil is to reduce the series resistance of the capacitor by making contact with the paper over a wide area.

The cathode foil itself has a thin oxide film, and is typically etched to increase the surface area slightly. You may have worked out this gives some capacitance between foil and electrolyte, so that the overall capacitance is that of the anode plus that of the cathode in series. You will be right to think that, but in practice the cathode film is very thin and its capacitance consequently very high.
One would think that both aluminium foils are to be considered as the capacitor plates and that all in between is the dielectric. However, this is wrong. One of the plates is oxidised, forming a very thin layer of dielectric material, typically about 2 um thick. The other plate should be electrically connected to the electrolyte fluid, which is a conductor. So, in fact, the charge of this other plate is allowed to move right up to the surface of the dielectricum. In other words: because of the electrolyte, we have a plate distanance of about 2 um.

Now consider Meyer's tubes. These must also be "conditioned", forming a white layer on the tubes:
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This sounds strikingly similar to how an electrolytic capacitor is made:

Electrolytic capacitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The principle of the electrolytic capacitor was discovered in 1886 by Charles Pollak, as part of his research into anodizing of aluminum and other metals. Pollack discovered that due to the thinness of the aluminum oxide layer produced, there was a very high capacitance between the aluminum and the electrolyte solution. A major problem was that most electrolytes tended to dissolve the oxide layer again when the power is removed, but he eventually found that sodium perborate (borax) would allow the layer to be formed and not attack it afterwards. He was granted a patent for the borax-solution aluminum electrolytic capacitor in 1897.

The first application of the technology was in making starting capacitors for single-phase alternating current (AC) motors. Although most electrolytic capacitors are polarized, that is, they can only be operated with direct current (DC), by separately anodizing aluminum plates and then interleaving them in a borax bath, it is possible to make a capacitor that can be used in AC systems.

Nineteenth and early twentieth century electrolytic capacitors bore little resemblance to modern types, their construction being more along the lines of a car battery. The borax electrolyte solution had to be periodically topped up with distilled water, again reminiscent of a lead acid battery.

Interestingly, electrolytic capacitors are operated at voltages very close to the point that the dielectric will break down:

Electrochemistry Encyclopedia -- Electrolytic capacitors

The reason that electrolytic capacitors have such uniform dielectric stress and can operate at such high field strength, within 80% of their breakdown strength

Then, looking at lead-acid batteries, we find further similarities:

Sulfuric acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anhydrous H2SO4 is a very polar liquid, having a dielectric constant of around 100. It has a high electrical conductivity, caused by dissociation through protonating itself, a process known as autoprotolysis.

And, remember Bedini/Lindemann saying things about "boiling batteries"?

John Bedini and Peter Lindemann's Medium and Large Motor-Energizer Project
At the end of the charge cycle, these 1600 amp-hour batteries are boiling at 31.2 volts!
Now what is that boiling actually??

Practical considerations : BATTERIES AND POWER SYSTEMS
With lead-acid cells in particular, overcharging leads to electrolysis of the water ("boiling" the water out of the battery) and shortened life.

Any battery containing water in the electrolyte is subject to the production of hydrogen gas due to electrolysis. This is especially true for overcharged lead-acid cells, but not exclusive to that type. Hydrogen is an extremely flammable gas (especially in the presence of free oxygen created by the same electrolysis process), odorless and colorless. Such batteries pose an explosion threat even under normal operating conditions, and must be treated with respect. The author has been a firsthand witness to a lead-acid battery explosion, where a spark created by the removal of a battery charger (small DC power supply) from an automotive battery ignited hydrogen gas within the battery case, blowing the top off the battery and splashing sulfuric acid everywhere.
VRLA battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
At high currents, electrolysis of water occurs, expelling hydrogen and oxygen gas through the battery's valves.

So, basically we have both with Meyer and Bedini technology:

1) forming of thin, polarizable dielectric layers on the plates of either capacitors or battery plates, the latter essentially becoming capacitors, because the dielectric is non-conducting.

2) the use of high voltage "spikes" to form/maintain the polarization of the dielectric, boosting the "dielectric relaxation" effect, essentially turning the dielectricum into a non-permanent electret

3) COP > 1.

4) "boiling" effects, unwanted in Bedini's technology, while basically utilized by Meyer.

All in all, I think both are using the same energy source: the super-polarized dielectricum and that is which is apparantly able to provide excess energy.

This suggests that Meyer's tubes could be very interesting as capacitors, if you don't let them boil and that Bedini's batteries could be very interesting as electrolysis devices, if you let them intentionally boil and make use of the gas.

Aaron wrote:

I just told you I don't remember the dielectric constant.
Then, I told you the insulation properties. I don't believe
I'm confused about anything.
Sorry I misunderstood then.

Aaron wrote:

It is about 4000 volts per mil.

Don't confuse the insulation properties with the dielectric constant!

The dielectric strength says something about how good an insulator it is. For Super Corona Dope, this is 4100 V / mil:
Super Corona Dope 55ML/2oz (4226-55ML)

The dielectric constant says something about the polarization of the dielectric, and that's what matters most.

The insulation properties are nice and somewhat important, because you don't want current leaking, but the energy source you want to utilize is the electric field created by a polarized dielectricum. And that's why that is the most important parameter.

However, you also want the polarization to be easy (fast) to establish and to last as long as possible, after you remove the polarizing field, because you want to induce the polarization with a spike and use the field caused by the polarization to extract energy once the spike is gone. At this moment, I can't say a thing about how this relates to the dielectric constant and other parameters.

Aaron wrote:

I already built Tay Hee Han's patent last summer (2008). I never posted
pics or even mentioned it online before. I coated the plates with
SUPER CORONA DOPE... a xylene mix that is specifically used as
a dielectric insulator for electrical applications.

It did not do what I wanted. According to someone, it really
needed barium titanate plates to give results like Tay Hee Han
claimed.
If the energy source indeed is to be found in the dielectric relaxation effect, then the most important parameter to consider for your coating would be the "dielectric constant", the insulation properties and/or the dielectric strength (breakdown) are much less important....
Beside the "dielectric constant", which says something about the strength of the polarization we can induce in the material, we also need some info about how long this effect lasts once the voltage/field is removed. If a material can be easily polarized, it may also loose its polarization very fast.....


I haven't been able to find a dielectric constant for this super corona dope, suggesting that may be very low..... However, I could find one for the non-super corona dope:

MyPHPblog for Industrial Electronics Corp.Dielectrics - The Physics Hypertextbook

lead magnesium niobate - 10,000 (!)
lead titanate - 200
calcium carbonate - 8.7
glass - 4 - 7
epoxy - 3.6

This "lead magnesium niobate" is being used, as can be expected, in ceramic capacitors:
Electroceramics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Dielectric materials used for construction of ceramic capacitors include: zirconium barium titanate, strontium titanate (ST), calcium titanate (CT), magnesium titanate (MT), calcium magnesium titanate (CMT), zinc titanate (ZT), lanthanum titanate (TLT), and neodymium titanate (TNT), barium zirconate (BZ), calcium zirconate (CZ), lead magnesium niobate (PMN), lead zinc niobate (PZN), lithium niobate (LN), barium stannate (BS), calcium stannate (CS), magnesium aluminium silicate, magnesium silicate, barium tantalate, titanium dioxide, niobium oxide, zirconia, silica, sapphire, beryllium oxide, and zirconium tin titanate

Some piezoelectric materials can be used as well; the EIA Class 2 dielectrics are based on mixtures rich on barium titanate. In turn, EIA Class 1 dielectrics contain little or no barium titanate."

All these materials are good candidates, because of their high dielectric constants.....


Here are some more constants mentioned:
Dielectric Constants Of Various Materials Table
Barium Titanate 100 - 1250
Titanium Dioxide 100

Note the highe dielectric constant of Barium Titanate......

And here are much more:
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This article contains some info about high dielectric constant oxides for IC fabrication:
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Very interesting, indeed. It shows that water can be split using an electric field only.

However, one does not necessarily need to place the capacitor plates outside of the water in order to insulate the capacitor plates. One can make sure there are insulating layers on the capacitor plates (pipes) themselves:

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"Electrode conditioning helps by providing an appropriate insulating layer on the electrodes and that helps to lower useless current leakage through the water. You can see the confirmation of non conductivity of the layer formed. The white insulating coating formed during conditioning is non conductive in between the tubes (pipe gap) so you need to take it for granted that the process is basically dielectric breakdown of the bonds. The initial conditioning is very important. Ravi recommends to only using the following process described."


It appears that when an insulating layer is formed/added that has the right dielectric features, that it is possible to create a non-permanent electret inside a capacitor due to the so-called "dielectric relaxation" effect, which would mean that you have an electric field in between the capacitor plates which is provided for free by the dielectricum:

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"Now, it appears logical that when the capacitor is charged with high voltage pulses, you perhaps somehow "super polarize" the dielectric. That would mean you can enhance this "dielectric relaxation" effect to such an extent that you practically create a non-permanent electret, that keeps alive much longer then a few microseconds, perhaps up to minutes or even hours.

If that is the case, you could come up with a system that feeds "spikes" to the cap in order to maintain that non-permanent electret effect for a prolonged period of time, while only taking a minimal amount of energy to maintain the electret."

In other words: the energy source used by Meyer is one and the same as the energy source used by Bedini in his batteries....

Workings of the gray tube

#10 ·

IIRC, in the gray tube drawings in his patent, the spark-gap was outside the "holders" for the rod. That might mean that the spark-gap was in normal air-pressure, while the "transmitting" part of the rod was under vacuum.
It can also be that a low-pressure was present in the whole tube. Enough gas for a spark, but not too much to be able to get a longitudinal wave front.

After all, if my theory is correct, you just want a sudden potential change of the rod., which should not take a lot of energy, so a moderate spark might be enough.
It's the sudden shift in potential that counts, not the amount of energy banged into the rod...

Workings of the gray tube

#8 ·

Tesla patent

I have just been reading Tesla paten no. 645.576 - system of transmission of electrical energy.

There is one remarkable observation in there:

"It is furthermore, a fact that such discharges of extreme tensions, approximating those of lightning, manifest a marked tendency to pass upwards away from the ground."

This suggests waves of a electrical character, movement of charge, that might be influenced by the earth magnetic field.


Another remarkable thing is that he sucked the air out of his transmission device:

"... while the free end was led to a terminal placed in the rarefied air stratum trough which the energy was to be transmitted, which was contained in an insulating-tube of a length of fifty feet or more, within which a barometric pressure varying from about one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty millimeters was maintained by means of a mechanical suction-pump."

In this patent, he also talks about conductance of gasses at low pressure.

All this suggests that longitudinal waves might be easier to generate in vacuum or in an environment of low pressure. Since Tesla was talking about millions of Volts, and Gray's tube works with kilo-Volts, this suggests that Gray's tube might have had a (near)-vacuum inside.

It would be interesting to know wether or not grays tube was working in a (near)-vacuum or not.

Anyway, if I go back to my theory, it does make sense to get gas-molecules out of the tube, because if free electrons and positrons are sucked out of the vacuum due to a shockwave, you don't want them to bounce into gas atoms and become useless.

Workings of the gray tube

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@Electrotek:

From that schematic, it appears as though the rod is connected to a capacitor charged at 5 kV, and the spark gap is connected to the commutator, hence when a spark is being pulled, the capacitor is discharged and the rod will make a sudden (negative) potential shift from 5 kV to 12 V, almost 0 in comparison to the 5 kV. Of course, this assumes a high internal resistance in the 5kV converter, allowing the capacitor to discharge, or the converter to be disconnected during the discharge cycle.

If that were true, the diodes near the commutator are the wrong way...

If you would reverse those diodes, you would get a more or less decent current from the 5 kV capacitor across the spark gap towards the battery, indeed, charging the battery and at the same time preventing unwanted vibrations of the core, since the current has a direct path from the charged capacitor to the ground, trough the battery.

However, according to my theory, you would end up with a negative charged grid charged with electrons originating from the vacuum, while if the electrons were "pulled" from the grid, you would end up with a positive charged grid.
That should not be to difficult to verify in an experiment.