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Workings of the gray tube

#5 ·

One more thing..

@Sephiroth: Thx. Let's hope this turns out to be the answer to the mystery. That would open a lot of doors....

Of course, when I say "high" potential, and "rise", I should have said "high negative", because if we want to push electrons towards the grids, we will need a negative charged rod, otherwise the electrons will be attracted and not be pushed away.

And btw: I suspect you don really need a spark gap, just a very sharp "rise" time. Of course in Tesla's era modern electronics were not available, so he used spark gaps to get a sharp rise in portential.

Workings of the gray tube

#3 ·

QM vs aether physics

In the end, aether physics and quantum mechanics is all about wave equations, because the quantum states an electron can have in for example a hydrogen molecule originate in wave equations. Electron orbits can only exist for an orbit that has a path length such that a we get a standing electro-magnetic wave.

So, the core rod most be acting as an antenna transmitting EM waves. If you take the analogy of water, you have transversal waves traveling across the surface and longitudinal pressure (sound-like) waves traveling trough the water itself. If you take a hydraulic cilinder filled with a fluid, you will get a pressure wave if you suddenly apply a high pressure to the piston. So, in the gray tube, you will get a pressure EM wave traveling outward of the rod if you suddenly apply a high potential (a high voltage, the equivalence of pressure) to the rod.

If that pressure-wave is strong enough, it will separate some of the positon-electron pairs "poping in and out of existence" in the vacuum surrounding the rod, so we get free electrons traveling in the direction of the wave and free positrons traveling the other directions. Since these electrons carry charge, they will charge the grid tube once arriving there, which can be used as normal electric energy.

IIRC, the effect utilised in the gray tube has been described by Tesla as "super charging", the effect that he could charge conductors at a large distance, the basis for his wireless power transmission patents.


The funny thing is that in creating a single pressure wave, all you have to do is rise the potential of the "floating" rod, which costs you almost no energy, since it only has a small parasite capacitance towards the earth, whereas in order to transmit conventional transversal EM waves, you continuously have to pull the electrons in the antenna back and forth, requiring a whole load of energy.

Workings of the gray tube

#1 ·

I just discovered some PDF's on the site of NASA:

NASA: Advanced Energetics for Aeronautical Applications:

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VOL II:
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Volume II has some 40 pages about ZPE and free energy. It mentions
Lindemann, Tesla and EV Gray.


With respect to Grays tube, I think I have an idea about how it works.

As you probably know, it consists of a thin rod surrounded by a copper
grid. The rod is being charged across a spark-gap, according to the
NASA document to a voltage of about 3 kV. Prof Meyl says the Maxwell
equations, the basics for electro-magnetic engineering, allow for
longitudinal waves to exist. However this is disputed by Bruhn:
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... on the assumption that no free charge particles exist in vacuum.

Edit: The original pdf appears to be gone. It is still available at:
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Still, Eric Dollard shows in his videos that longitudinal waves *do*
exist (and they are also mentioned in the NASA report), so there must
be free charge particles available in the vacuum. Now Quantum theory
says that electron-positron pairs are constantly popping in and out of
existence in the vacuum and that these pairs are "short-lived". See
for example the following article by Apollo astronaut Dr. Edgar
Mitchell:
Quantum Theory, The Quantum Hologram and Zero Point Energy

"The Heisenberg uncertainty principle unambiguously demands that
short-lived virtual photons pop in and out of existence (along with
positron-electron pairs). The inability of Helium to solidify even at
absolute zero temperature is attributed to zero-point energy. "

So, longitudinal waves *do* exist *and* most likely the the free charge
particles those waves are being transmitted trough are
positron-electron pairs popping in and out of existence.

Now, in nuclear power plants what you basically do is smash an
atom-nucleus with a big hammer, so it dis-integrates and energy is being
released. Now, if there are a large number of positron-electron pairs
(temporarily) floating around in vacuum, couldn't you just give a
similar smash to these, so they are separated from each other and do
not eliminate one another after a short time?

Well, I'd say a single, strong longitudinal wave-front could do the
trick. If you would be able to emit a *single* pressure wave front
from the core rod, then you might be able to separate a significant
number of positron-electron pairs, and capture them with a copper
grid hence delivering energy, more energy then you put in, just like
in a nuclear power plant.

So, how could you make a single, strong longitudinal wave front?

Well, you would need to get a sudden rise of the potential of the core
rod, without too much of electric waves going back and forth trough
the core. So, you basically don't want any current going trough the
core rod, just a sudden rise of potential. That means that pulling
sparks out of a coil probably won't work, since a coil doesn't deliver
a constant potential but a constant current. Therefore, I would say a
discharge capacitor would probably work better then a coil.

Since you want the electrons in the rod to move as little as possible,
you'd have to arrange your setup to pull a spark of a duration as
short as possible and you don't want the voltage to be too high,
because then you'd probably get all kinds of waves going back and
fourth trough the core rod, which might disturb the single wave front
we want.

To sum it up: you want to just "ping" the rod, so that its potential
rises sharply (and stays high for a while), but you don't want to hit
it with a "large hammer" causing all kinds of vibrations and waves,
because then you might not be transmitting a single "pressure" like
wave-front anymore, which might kill the whole effect.

Looking forward to your thoughts on this,

-- Arend Lammertink --