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What is Cold Electricity?

#5 ·

I think the relevant word here is "Electricity".

Hot "water" and cold "water" are the same thing.

Similarly hot "electricity" and cold "electricity" are the same thing.

I believe there is a conventional explantation of semiconductor switches getting
cold, I've read it but cannot recall where.

In my opinion there is only one electricity, it can cause heating or it can
cause cooling depending on what is actually happening.

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Danny, As it happens I was just recently thinking of other ways to store solar
and wind energy into the night/no wind times respectively.

I thought of a large mass low windage high speed flywheel, but then friction is
a problem, with heating thermal leakage is one problem.

I was thinking a system that can increase the static potential of something
with no leakage and small loss to do so is the requirement I'm looking for.

I considered compressing air or pumping water to height as a couple of ways
to store potential that can be tapped to turn a rotating generator to produce
proper sine wave AC power. Not "switch mode" inverter power.

I also considered the lifting of a heavy object inside a big steel pipe (for safety),
so that it can be let down to turn the generator, pulleys and leverage to do
the work and hold it up when charging by steps, kind of thing. If a regulating
valve was used under the weight the descent could be manipulated to restrict
power (like a "gravity" piston). But the piston only goes up and down with
excess power input and excess output power drain, it could be done several ways.

It's all in the highly efficient engineering and design, wear and tear, safety ect.

I'm not convinced any of my idea's are practical as yet but I am thinking on it.

Cheers.

My work

#7 ·

Hi Michael, I'm interested to know how Audi got to see your work to base their
tech on it. Were you working for them or did they find it in public ?

Cheers

NickZ wrote:

Farmland and All:
The MITTS dome device videos are pretty amazing, if true. It's easy to say they are faked, along with ALL their other projects. But what if they are not? We would be overlooking one of the most convincing videos and ideas ever shown, or that has ever been faked.
For those that think that it could only be a fake, I would like to see it replicated in the same way, to prove how it is faked. And start a car, like is shown.
The same goes for the TPU and Dr. Stiffler's 3 coil set up, and other devices that have not been reproduced, in the same way that they are shown to work. All just faked?
Just consider for a moment what this can mean, IF true. What they mention as the cause of the power (separation of charges) may certainly be true, regardless of their projects.
That dome device looks like it is already over 30 years old. But, will it still start the car? Or has its secret little battery worn down, after all those years. Ha! Anyway, don't throw the baby out with the dishwater, just yet.
Hi Nick, I understand what you are saying, but to replicate something the
precise drawing is needed and other info. In order to get even a look at
information on devices I think they require a certain amount of money as a
donation. Then to get the plans they require a large donation as far as I can
tell. Being that the money given is a donation there is no way or cause for
complaint if a non working system drawing is given. The money you give is not
or the info so there are no come backs on them, you cannot complain there
are no grounds for any complaints. They could give you a crayon drawing of a
child's swing set but you cannot complain because there is no payment for
the plans the payment is a donation and has nothing to do with the plans.

Testimonials are all bogus, anyone can be do it online, Timothy himself could
start an account and say he is impressed by Timothy Thrapp. People making a
second account to praise their own work and fake an interest or replication
from a personality they created themselves for that purpose is quite common. I
can't believe so many people fall for it, people are so gullible.

Can anyone show a video or give any technical information about the
performance of any of their systems in an independant setting ? Have they
ever given the plans of an over unity system to someone who has built the
system and shown it ? If they want to help they should just help.

It's a give away as a scam when at the beginning of the 40 kW device demo
he asks for people to pray and whatever number pops into thier head they
should give that much money to Witts. They ask for money to be given to
them but they give nothing back, do they do ministry work and just help
people who need help ?

I have zero belief or respect for people who ask for money in the name of religion.
The love of money is the root of evil. The more of "their" money we want and
use gives more power to the money changers. We should try to use less of
their money, money doesn't feed us, work does. Money is the chains that bind
us to the wheel overwork and overproduction in the name of profit.

I didn't say it was a fake I just said it looked like a fake and said how it could
be done. It's not my responsibility to prove all they fakes as fakes. If someone
else can say it is true with no proof then I can say it is a fake with no proof
too, fair's fair.

Cheers
[www.witts.ws] WITTS Hemisphere Generator Starts Jeep - Quantum Electric Demo - YouTube

This video is a real doozey, he disconnects the car from the battery that started the car then the car won't start.

There is still another wire connected to the positive cable to the car after he
disconnects the device. All he needs to do is have another battery connected to
the device so that when he connects the device the second battery is
connected which starts the car.

As far as demonstrations go it shows nothing that cannot be easily faked.

Cheers
[www.witts.ws] WITTS Hemisphere Quantum Fuelless Generator - Demo #2 - YouTube

Looks like a scam to me, he says in the video that if there was a regular
battery in there that the current would go down not up, but that is just not true.

If there was an inverter circuit and a small battery in there as the battery
voltage dropped the current would rise to maintain the power. Even a regular
battery on it's own can give more current after a short time of use.

All I seen in that video was a couple of low wattage lights connected for a
very short time to a setup which could have been just an inverter and battery
under a metal dome.

I'm not seeing how that is a demonstration of anything but how a scam works.

Cheers

E-Cat test was a success?

#13 ·

Roland wrote:

That is only true if the public has no options. If the public has access and can afford small individual home units of there own, the power company will try to continue to be $$ competitive enough, so that they keep there market share.

The bigger point in having a cheap Clean energy source is access to energy. There are still many places in the world that have never had reliable electricity sources. I have visited many societies that have no electricity at all! It was not cost effective to spend many millions to bring electricity to those areas. Those area continue to get further behind because this lack of electricity & the associated technologies that can even be life saving.

I for one love the idea that the E-cat (and other technologies) may bring these third world communities. Not to mention the cons/politics involved in insuring a stable flow of oil because of our dependency. Clean is also a big plus.

PS. From what I understand the E-cat uses VERY little nickle.

But the Ecat require's Electrical power to work and pressurized hydrogen and
powdered Nickel, it also requires a steam turbine to make electricity from the
steam produced by the heat, and of course clean water.

It also requires a lot of time to start the reaction, in my opinion we won't see
any viable backyard Ecats. The cost to setup an Ecat with a steam turbine
and generator would be substantial. Pressurized hydrogen can be very
dangerous to use.

One thing is certain I will not be building or buying a steam turbine or an Ecat.

Try a little numbers game and determine the setup cost for the steam turbine
and generator for a 3 Kw system. Then work out how much Nickel powder you
will need for a month and cost then add the cost of the hydrogen for a month
and the input power compared to output power.

Then when the Ecat is working what will you do with any power excess ? If
the produced heat is not used to make steam then electrical power it is lost.

Then there is all the insulation to retain the heat and the chance of explosions.

I don't think many people have actually thought this through. In the real word
application of things there are many hidden costs and problems.

Cheers

P.S. To get the pressurized hydrogen you will need to buy it from a company
on a regular basis and pay rent on the container (vessel) same with the
powdered Nickel it will need to be bought with money on a regular basis from
a for profit company. The whole long term viability is governed by the whims
of companies and fluctuating prices and availability of the consumables.

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E-Cat test was a success?

#8 ·

b4FreeEnergy wrote:

Rebuttal to Krivit's Accusation that Andrea Rossi is a Fraudster
Well I don't hope it doesn't work. I hope it does work too. But I have concerns.

1. Grid power will be no less expensive.

2. The supply and demand problem with the Nickel.

3. The associated problems with the mining of Nickel.

4. It might not be as efficient as he says.

5. People might say things like everything is OK now because the Ecat will save the world from evil and pollution.

That's just the first five I can think of off the top of my head.

Cheers

E-Cat test was a success?

#5 ·

I believe you guys are right to be skeptical, I seen the video with the just boiled
kettle's amount of steam for an input of over 700 watts. There is just something
suspicious about the way it is all presented. Then there is the Nickel thing, it'll
be supply and demand, it's controlled. Basically any metered power provided by
a "company" will be charged at the rate the company thinks the market can
sustain, that is best business practice I believe.

The Ecat if it works will just increase their profits, because the output will just
be fed to the grid.

Just like all the solar power is now. Grid tie solar setups cost the power company
nothing but they sell the power for profit same as all the power, we buy other
peoples solar power from their grid tie setups through the power company for
full cost but they are paid less.

Even if the Ecat works it will only save money or make money for those that
own them everyone else will still pay full price in my opinion.

Will the transmutated copper from nickel be OK for making magnet wire for coils ?
That could be one good thing. We can always use more copper.

Cheers

E-Cat OU???

#6 ·

Well well, it seems to me that if the steam is only 100 degrees celcius as soon as it is put under any pressure it will become hot water again, also the steam looks to me like only about 1/3 of a liter per second if that much.

The energy content of the hydrogen needs to be taken into account too.

My concern is that the steam produced in that video is next to useless, they sell steam cleaners on the Late night TV adds that make more steam than that, lots more.

They are selling manufactring rights ?

If I were to be convinced I would need to see it actually generating electrical power, why don't they hook it up to a turbine and generator ?

The amount of steam leaving that pipe has no hope whatsoever of producing anywhere near the input power of the device, not even close.

I don't believe it, I agree there is something very very wrong there.

He also become's very defensive, if it were in fact OU he should laugh when the validity is questioned. Because he should have proof.

The only thing I see in that video is a very expensive and inefficient steam maker.

That much steam at room pressure cannot make 748 watts of electrical power not on you're nelly, no way.

Cheers

7imix wrote:

Ok, a little more philosophy. I am intending to draw a parallel between the Free Energy movement and the Free Software movement.

The Free Software movement is about more than getting something for no money.

It is about the freedom to pop the hood and tinker. You can download the source, so if you want to, you can learn how it works, or you can modify it to suit your unique need.

Have you seen in cars recently how they hide all the parts of the engine behind plastic to discourage tinkerers?

When was the last time you popped open your laptop and modified the motherboard?

This is more than just a discussion about whether to use oil or hydrogen, or whether to use an all electric car or a hybrid.

It's about the freedom to increase the range of your own capabilities. The freedom to learn how to build something yourself, and how to modify something that someone else has built.

This rallying cry comes from our basements, our garages, our spare bedroom. It certainly doesn't come from the boardrooms of those that are already powerful.
Very well said 7imix, I think it is time we brcome free again, as an example, free to have a high potential lighting system in you're home and to build it our self. This way we can fix it our self and provide power to it ourself, mine will be different from you're but I probably got some idea's from you and you me, this is humanity helping each other.

We should be free from all the stupid rule's that cannot be enforced and should not be. As long as I do not use the utility company power I should be allowed to build any use electrical device or system I please. But i'm sure there are laws against it, I'm curently trying to design a HV flashlight with an ignition coil in it, it will have shock probe's aswell to tickle the animals if they get stroppy.

CHeers

dR-Green wrote:

The lower 50% of the pot doesn't alter the speed, the maximum it will do is 123Hz. But the lower 50% range does change the input and output current. At 680 ohms, input is 375mA, and output is 450mA.
Hi dR-Green, Not sure if anyone mentioned it , i didn't read the whole thread.

But it looks to me like you took say 12 volts at 375 Ma = 4.5 watts and turned it into say 6 volts at 450 Ma = 2.7 watts.

To do a power calculation you need to time's volt's by amps to get power.

The same thing happens if you charge a 6 volt battery with the SSG.

By charging down in voltage the impedance is likely higher and more power should be dissapated for a greater loss, I imagine.

Cheers

Donald L. Smith

#12 ·

sebosfato wrote:

You can clearly see that from the position of the transistor, from the rectifier the positive is 0v and the negative is -x kv. Very Very clear.
Oh yes I see, of course.

Thanks sebosfato. Now I see it.

Donald L. Smith

#11 ·

Ok Thanks, I might have to read those posts a few time's over to get that.

To charge the coil 7 to negative potential you need a vic transformer to charge it. But as i'm saying you need to charge it in relation to something, this something must be a conductive sheet in the middle of the coil former witch must support very high voltage. Basically no current will flow on this high voltage source. Is just to give the coil 7 a net negative charge. Extra electrons.
I think I understand this but what is a "vic transformer" ?

Donald L. Smith

#7 ·

Also I was thinking what if the coil 7 was contstructed from steel or stainless steel instead of bare copper ? And why bare copper ? Seems to make sense but I don't know why !

Donald L. Smith

#6 ·

Yes the coil 7 would be at a high voltage for sure.
The center tap and the positioning of the primary coil 6 would take care of
the negative part of things wouldn't it.
So you think item #8 voltage control shunt is not needed ?
Might be safer with that included. I don't really know that but just a hunch.

What would be the result of moving the primary coil 6 from one side of the center tap to the other, considering one side has the shunt ?

Where exactly should this item # 9 frequency control resister be placed ?
Any idea's ?

Donald L. Smith

#4 ·

Table Top Device ?

Hi sebosfato, Is this the device you're refering to ? See Attachment.

Can you explain to me about the Frequency resistor and the three Earth
symbols particularly the one to the far right of the drawing.

I don't see an item #9 on the actual drawing, but it is in the parts list,

#9 Frequency adjuster, (prevents derailing by the diode bridge).

Hi riccardom70, I have some concerns about this type of technology.

1. It's so complicated only power companies will most likely have access to it.
2. Where will al the Nickel come from it's not cheap.
3. Is this underunity or overunity ?
4. Sounds like alchemy, see snippet from patent application.
5. How long will it take to get to the market from today.
6. Will the power companies just make more profits, by being able to generate power cheaper, or will the saving be passed on.
7. How much does it cost to build and maintain.

Other than these concerns, there are others, I don't hold much optimism unfortunately and I consider myself an optomist.

I hope i'm wrong and it works well is cheap to build and maintain.

But i'll play Devils advocate. It seems this technology is totally reliant on Nickel, the price of Nickel will go through the roof till the power produced by it for free is nullified. Supply and demand will kick in. The Nickel mine's will give out. Too many things to go wrong. But most of all I will never have one.
And nor will you I wager. The power companies will still charge the price they want for thier power and if we don't pay we don't get.. Thats the way things are still. I can't see this or any other complicated high tech devices changing that, unfortunately.

The present inventor believes that in this reaction is possibly involved a capture of a proton by a nickel nucleus which is transformed into a copper nucleus with a consequent beta decay of the formed unstable copper (Cu 59 - 64) since the produced thermal energy is larger, as it will be thereinafter demonstrated, than the energy introduced by the electric resistance.

It is believed that the nickel nuclei are transformed to copper since the mass (energy) of the final status (copper isotope) is less than the overall mass (energy) of the starting status (nickel isotope + proton) .

The exothermal reaction thereon Applicant's invention is based differs from those adopted by prior

searchers since the inventor has not tried to demonstrate .an emission of elementary particles supporting a validity of a theory, but he has exclusively tried to provide an amount of energy larger than the consumed energy amount, to just achieve a practical method and apparatus for generating an energy amount larger than the consumed energy, and this by exploiting nuclear energy generating processes starting from electrochemical energy. Thus, the inventive apparatus has been specifically designed for producing the above mentioned energy in a reliable, easily controllable, safe, repeatable manner, for any desired applications.

In particular, the inventive apparatus is coated by boron layers and lead plates both for restraining noxious radiations and transforming them into energy, without generating residue radiations and radioactive materials .

In this connection it is pointed out that all prior attempts to generate like types of energy, have brought to small energy amounts generating prototypes not suitable for a safe industrial use, because of the theoretical nature of the performed searches
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