ashtweth

Great thought promotion there guys, one thing i have to add, is that despite their clams and lack of validation (which is why we need a centralized hub for this research for many obvious reasons).

I have seen guys who i am convinced had some thing in the past, but who have done as equally bad in business incompetence (for example Meyers Meyers and Pantone with shares -like Lutec is doing) So i have to keep an open mind based on that.

In other words, its a guess for me - They show all the signs of it being a scam, but so have others who have some thing. So mean time Ash lives not far from them and will sniff the out...

We have allot of GEET/hydroxy and other open source demos to show the public media next year, ill invite Lutec(they are not far from me) to come in and validate their claims. Dont expect them too tho.

Guys this person reported above Faraday with his cell design, i am getting full details, here is the latest i got form him,

Ash



As promised i will inform you about my work.I have already uploaded my video to youtube in tree versions: English, German and French.
The links are: YouTube - How tu build a drycell electrolyzer English vers. for English version

YouTube - Wie baut man einen Trockenzell Elektrolyzer deutsche Version for german version

YouTube - Comment fair un electrolyzer celle seche version francais for french version

you may use them freely, but please publish only my youtube name woodpecker, thanks.

And I have another great news: two days ago i tested the drycell on a motocross bike with a honda 4 stroke engine, 175ccm about 10 HP. We started the engine with fuel and then hooked the gas to the air inlet and closed the fuel valve totally. The engine was running and runnig (more then 30 Min.) until we shut it down. We could also restart only with the gas. I could not measure the gas output maybe something between 3,5 - 5 l at about 8 - 15
Amps.

I also sent you a mail with some communications with others in overunity forum, but i didn`t get any answer from your side, so i am not sure if you got it.

Have a wonderful, blessed day
woodpecker

Hi Shamus

Yeah, I agree, as stated in the post not that i expect them to accept the challenge , it was mainly done for their Viewers benefit

You tube links probably easier to read.

(1 of 3) YouTube - Panacea - Mythbusters viewers challenge (1 of 3)
(2 of 3) YouTube - Panacea - Mythbusters viewers challenge (2 of 3)
(3 of 3) YouTube - Panacea - Mythbusters viewers challenge (3 of 3)

And show them Lidmotor kicking Butt with Bedini applications and Imhotep, bodkins et ALL

Panacea-BOCAF Mythbusters viewers challenge
you tube links almost ready

This video was done to help the myth busters viewers engage in some
introspection and question things. Also to help un do what they have
done and to help spread awareness of other systems.

They are challenged also to be true to their viewers and them selves
and we offer our Bedini, RV, Hydroxy and more for them and ANY one to
validate and back up our claims. 500$ Cash to disprove any thing stated.

Who ever is frequent in the discovery forums should make sure this
gets some good attention. The viewer challenge ends on 2009, not that
i expect them to accept this video, but i do expect the viewers to get
some thing out of it.

Its like the mythbusters logo says -
"get more dirt on discovery" haha
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Ash

Hi Duane, the folder called "best" is part of the whole thing that's compressed, so i am afraid you have to down load all parts to get it

I know Rapidshare is a pain in the behind, but the good part is they stay on line forever as i am a premium user.

These guys have low cost open source hydroxy designs
Smack and Wouter
Wouter Oosthuizen
Smacks Booster

Guys i have stumbled on a link which has a list of 900+ patents info
on it, found this surfing *cough*.

Fuel Vaporizers
Reformed Fuel
Catalytic
Fuel and Water/Steam or Hydrogen Conversion
Sonic - use sonic frequencies to disrupt fuel molecules (also
effective, especially with heat)
FI (Injected), Radiation, Alternate Fuels, Etc. - other categories
that hold great promise

Click onto the folder entitled "best" in the set, its a long 600 mb
down load. Also the fuel saving vehicle modification doc is updated,
added in a better stratagem for local mandates on pollution cutting
technology, also more info on the SAAB and 25 + engines to use as
political muscle. We did up a water mist injection and fuel
vaporization doc [link inserted in there].I Added in Charles and
Gerry's water vaporizer hydroxy stuff in there as a back up for all.
Also the Genesis hybrid EXPERIMENTAL hydroxy /water vaporizers systems
in there.

Also done, is the suppression info of the vaporizers.
Fuel vaporization technology
Check out how many patents since 1920 could of got us all better fuel
economy and less emissions.

The fuel saving vehicle modification doc is here


- (water mist injection and vaporization is inserted in that doc) Or
you can see it in the hydroxy course, as it has systems that are run
as a hybrid with hydroxy.

I hope to have a vaporization system to report in a few weeks to add
in there, and yes it will be used with the hydroxy boosters.

Here is the patent info files

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(Click FREE - not premium to down load) There is an hour wait between
each file -for free users any prob's let me know


Ash


PS

Jeff's cell is updated with all the fixes too plus allot of other docs.

Guys check out the Hydroxy course, down the bottom it will show you how to measure

Hydroxy Booster technology (PDF) - updated October 12 2008
Panacea University

Make sure you get a CARBY car not one with an ECM. They are IMPOSSIBLE to repair trust me. A carby car is easy to both boost and REPAIR

Hi Ash,


XXXXX here, can you be so kind and post following to the
EVGRAY/ other groups / anywhere else, you decide... but w/o me as the
source....please (I have a reason...)

PS I am planning to translate the most interesting/advanced projects
to English, but currently a 48-hour day
is too short for me - hope you understand..

__________________________________________
I think the right time has come to share this with you:

A great FE enthusiosts forum from Old continent is
(ENERGY) AT THE SOURCE

This could be (hopefuly) translated by goole from cz (czech) to english.

A forum of many "doers", fe / health / independent living related.

Many interesting projects - like the TR (turbo reactor of Sao) which
I'm currently testing
clock-work-precision done-spiral-Joecellike-hydrogen (ZP) generator
for car:


or the zpe/electrolysis related series of Iv:


Although the language is "alien" I hope the drawings/photos help as
motivation/inspiration.
There is over 2GB of material "in there"

Best regards,
Anonymous source (real name removed)

Double click on Image
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Tested and working
YouTube - jopinoypower's Channel

Ash

Truth News Radio Australia


Ash

Hang on a second, the inner tube is usually -
out side tube is positive, unless i have interpreted wrong.

Did you insulate the - and the + or just one?
what sort of insulating properties does the vinyl paint have?

Lee(Redmeanie) has a working EFIE here, i suggest you do some back round reading in the open source enigneers hydroxy course. We have it here in booster 101, but i cant find that thread. You can find it under the hydroxy course- Panacea University

Jeff,

Sorry i missed the part of your post last night, was up late, that's amazing you got it running like you did, that's as far as i ever heard any one getting that i trust . This starts to remind me of the Ntiro cell, and how sensitive it is due to certain factors of the engine bay etc. I know wayne personally, this is just some thing to keep in mind, he states for the D18 cell (was not in the original instructions)

Cell must be away from engine block as you don't want electromagnetic mutual inductance from the cell to the engine

outer side of inner tube surface area should equal surface area of inner side of outer tube electric fields must be the same

horizontal tube mount for highway driving
vertical mount for city driving
solid wire roughly 0.2mm one winding around cell

-end

Mate if you have residual voltage form the cell, then perhaps people need to do load tests with other things to see how YOUR particular cell reacts? Is that possible? Given there are so many variables we don't know about the energy, it seems to me that there could be things around your shop like microwaves on or off? or any thing like that?

I know that some machinery effects it (i am told) perhaps its the environment around you

Hi hhoexclusive

There is a Tiny mention of it in the RAVI doc, have you read it? its on the panacea university dot org site. I know one guy in Melb making us our new cell who knows the patents inside and out, plus he is the only one i have ever heard mention about the LED"s will forward and try and get an answer for you

Ash

Oz

Mate look for Bernies research on the JC in the joe cell yahoo groups, he has the easiest stage three procedure mate.

Ps, i have met Joe,
He wont tell you jack shyte. It very confusing and frustrating.
boost your ride Bro, JC is R and D