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Hi Bob good to see you back!!

Rick.Bob et ALL. Looks like Dr Derek has also been getting some success boosting a Prius with a HYDROGEN (not hydroxy) gas splitter. You can get kits or make them from open source plans.

we just finished and install on a 2010 Prius, we averaged mpg on city streets of between 75 and 100 miles per gallon in rush hour traffic. Speed of 40 mpg consistently was at the 100 mpg mark, I took some pics will send them tonight of the install and dash mpg readout.




Of cause prob wont compare to Bob's big unit, you get a great brute force 101 pate cell and a RESEARCH resonance prototype with Bob's, you cant get that out of a normal hydroxy booster

Ash

HI JM8174, to the best of my knowledge For $200.00 dollars you can upload your idea to the IP.COM web site and they will keep it on file and in the public domain while not allowing anyone else to patent the idea. The patent office uses this IP.COM web site searching for intellectual technology claims as part of their search process when viewing or examining new patent claims.

If you have built a proof of principle, then we suggest an Ebook with general purpose license or creative commons, you can still register as your IP at IP.com and prevent others from patenting. This way you get the best of both worlds there (remuneration and security). For those wishing to have set guide lines for open licenses to their work, you cannot do better then through the creative commons About - Creative Commons

Of cause a creative commons is like open source, you can get remuneration, i suggest that

Ash

Thats a great practical move what you mentioned there Jib about the petitioning, that's why we have that on the Patent page (activism section), we can provide all our signatures for it too, i am going to try and find some time (hahahahaha-sorry) to study how easy it is to set up class actions, mandates (some thing more extreme then petitions) FROM DIGITAL MEDIUMS.

This digital age makes it easy, that's why name email and country can do millions of petitions signing, with mandates they have to do it, a petitions is a request but can create enough public pressure and has in the past, also a class action makes them do it too, we have the numbers, people power worked in every single mandate , class action and mostly petitions too .

Hey man, it works! So why not.
Thanks Jib added it all there for every one.

Ash

Thanks man Craig makes great Vids. Please check this Jib,
Patent Office
Refresh

ALL info plus a method to begin class action and mandates is posted there with new info. Any thing needed there let me know guys

Ash

Welcome to Xogen Technologies!

Ash

Hi sucahyo, the idea i mentioned was utilize the HV spike for charging, they suppress it, wonder if you could still use it...

And unlike most HHO PWM's, this one has heavy duty protection against high voltage spikes from inductive loads.

80-Amp Powerful PWM DC MOTOR SPEED CONTROLLER battlebot

Guys what do you think can we make this do Bedini charging too????


Ash

YouTube - Mini Titanium Dry Cell

Thanks to the Panacea Volunteers Eddie, Alex, and William, this is a research
report using a Mini but powerful PURE Ti/SS Dry cell design (which could be
transformed into a gas splitter cell via Bill Williams design).



Small cheap and easy. The 3L 4 cylinder turbo diesel Nissan Navara featured in this video reported 67% in mileage gains by using 2 of these small compact cells in parallel at 18 amps each = total 36Amps.



For those who have computer engine management systems, we suggest testing the gas splitter design. For open source dry gas splitting cell designs please check Bill Williams generous donation of the GSC in the Panacea University Hydroxy course.

For those who cannot build cells, there are recommended and endorsed cells that we are testing listed in the Hydroxy PDF document. If using this mini dry cell design, please check the current and voltage density of the plate sizes of this cell in the faculty section of the Panacea University Hydroxy course.



These specific calculations (electrode thickness/sizes to watts in ratios) are
estimated to be needed to run the cell in optimal conditions. Titanium can get
hot just like stainless steel. Always install near the front of the car where
there is air flow.



More testing will be reported in the main PDF document.
Mini Dry cell design:

Pure TI is used for the negative side only, it could be one reason for such a
reported mileage gain. Stainless for the positive center tap. Plates are spaced
1mm apart.

Dimensions:
Electrodes - 90 x 90mm (octagon shape)
Gasket - 73mm ID, 80mm OD, 1mm thick

100% Titanium (not Titanium / Mixed Metal Oxide) is used for the negative /
hydrogen side.Stainless steel is used for the positive / oxygen side only.

-NNN+NNN-

SS = + plus n's
PURE 100% TI = negatives


Hydroxy Gas

Ash back to work for me, Ps, check out Bill's new cell!!!
YouTube - 8X8 GSC 1st Run 9-18-2010.3gp

Illl make sure we have an end of the world PARTY at 2012 tho Bro . On a serious note, Pat's info is certainly worth looking into, I remember Ravi writing a research paper on it also. NASA certainly wont give us a straight answer.

I guess that's what NASA stands for, Never A Straight Answer

Guys i am in the southern Hemisphere and watch for it. There are a few interesting things that buzz around in the Aussie skies

Matt, IndianaBoys and Mart, drop me an email please, i have an ethanol HEMP book given to us from donations (PDF)


Ash

Then its now down to Rosco's and Robins plugs I can say that they work

Hi Ted./Jib Et ALL.

Thanks for the heads up guys, all useful, I agree with Ted if Greer started doing what we mentioned he would be a great asset for the FE communality, guess that's where we are coming from with talking to Steven B and him.
Now no back yard guy eh..well Sephiroth is already is debunking that also a birdy told me they just replicated the SS Steorn effect on the official forum, closed loop on the scope..cant discuss it here my friends..

But just some good news is a "back yarder" with cheap materials on the official forum replicated the SS scope shots...from the official info...little SS one has got some GRUNT too.

Jib understand where your coming from, we should always remember this when any of us do this sort of post, personally i think Greer is not as clear as CAN BE FROM OUR HELP and we can help to make him listen to the themes in your post.

Help Heal love (Jib like me has his own way of saying that LOL)

I Met Loder personally(he asked for Panacea's help with our petitions) and am meeting Stephen Bassett (exo politics)
Disclosure Project

This weekend we will be talking to Stephen and filming, the guy from Exo Hong Kong is going to be Panacea Hong Kong.Will talk to him about Greer my friend. He knows him well.

Greer just needs the right "ideas" he has the PERFECT PR skills, lets just try and give him helpful advice, il work on those themes you said and ask Steven B to tell Greer this, il have to re edit them tho LOL



love your work brother, you know this.,

Since it is a public health issue i am sure Aaron would welcome it . We are currently editing and getting data back for our fuel saving and vehicle modifications (PDF and new video production) so this is a welcome addition to the PDF my friend thanks for posting looks promising, like the third party testing aspect.. great start.

Ash

Glen thanks so much for posting this man, have updated all the docs for all

Thanks for the news sucahyo, i would of never been able to keep up with all the forums and see this in time, Wouter is a great asset to the open source genre, i think ill drop him a mail and see if he is okay.
Thanks again for posting man

Ash

He is linking the orgone energy and Ether to soft electrons too. hmmmm
->Page 287

Hang on is chloride produced as a by product?

there is no more useful KNOWLEDGE than ecology my friend, if LIFE is an eco system and you dont know ecology than how much do you really know about life?

Technology must be ecological. Ill make sure of that this year ground work will ensure .just want to know if he puts salt back into the atmosphere

Ash

I have not seen ANY ONE prevent the RA/Glen's modified RA circuit from being replicated being open source, or have i seen Steorn being stooped for licensing to developers, see a pattern here