report
Account of the visit to Stanley Meyer, and Project TACO
1 January 1995
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WATER FUEL CELL (WFC)
ACCOUNT OF VISIT TO STANLEY MEYER (SM)
OHIO 6th - 8th OCTOBER 1992 by PERKINS TECHNOLOGY LTD (PTL) and ADMIRAL GRIFFIN (AG)
Introduction
1.1 The PTL representatives were --
Mr T.W.E.Downes. Managing Director (TD)
Mr G.Purkins. Engineering Development Manager (GP)
Dr M.Graham PhD, Chemist and a Project Leader. (MG)
1.2 All had been extensively briefed on the subject as indexed in Annex A. Consequently PTL had developed a positive attitude to WFC technology and wished to contribute to its Success. Subject to their confidence being confirmed after meeting SM in person and hearing what he had to say and demonstratc in his laboratory in Grove City Ohio, they would work out details of future joint action with SM.
Programme
2.1 TD, GP and AG met SM at Columbus Airport at about 2000 on Tuesday 6th October and had some introductory talks pending MG's arrival about 24 hours later. We were then taken to our hore! by SM who picked us up at 0800 on Wednesday 7th October for talks in his laboratory in Grove City. There SM began with a new video film of the ‘dune buggy’ in action coupled with the salient features of his recent technological developments. With the exception of a new, versatile and controllable chip, which remains under development by 'SAGANTEC’ in Holland for about another 2 months, the remainder is in an advanced engineering-for-production state as part of a complete system. SM then gave an up-to-date presentation of his WFC technology assisted by slides, and handed over copies of his video tape and latest Technical Brief to both GP and AG. This Brief embraces the following Memos:-
WFC 420. Hydrogen Fracturing Process
“| @2r: Quenching Circuit Technology.
“ 422DA. Hydrogen Gas Managemt System.
423DA. Water Fuel Injection System.
“424. — Atomic Energy Balance of Water.
“ 425DA. Dynamic Voltage Stimulation.
2.2 A considerable discussion followed. The main result was PTL's decision fully to Support SM and his WFC technology, subject to ‘proof of concept’ and costing. PTL's title

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for this would be Project ‘TACO’ “Proof of concept’ would consist of a successful demonstration at PTL's laboratory at Peterborough of a Volkswagen engine. identical to that now in the ‘dune buggy’. which would be fitted with the necessary conversion parts as supplied and advised by SM. This would be referred to as Phase 1. Phase 2 would be put in hand as soon as judged prudent in the course of Phase 1. It would consist of the provision by PTL of a Type 6.3544M marine diesel. identical to that now fitted in the ‘Brunel’ Thames ferry. together with a dummy load and instrumentation. An additional set of conversion parts for this diesel engine would be supplied by SM. When this engine had been successfully tested at Peterborough it would, subject to the owner's agreement, be applied to the ‘Brunel’ either by complete substitution or by conversion, for as long as required for public demonstration. At an appropriate stage in Phase 2 PTL would, as Phase 3. identify other market sectors, products and programmes in the reciprocating engine field (both petrol and diesel) including the powers required for ‘merchant ship propulsion, observing that the maximum scope of SM's currently available equipment is 450 hp. Having reached agreement thus far, TD and MG set off from Columbus airport during the afternoon, leaving SM to work out further details with GP and AG before their departure for London p.m. the next day.
2.3 The programme on Thursday 8th October began with a bench demonstration of the dissociation of water into hydrogen and oxygen by pulsed voltage stimulation. Dissociation was observed to begin at about 10 volts and increased markedly with voltage. The maximum observed current was less than 1 milliamp. The glass vessel and its attached pipework and pressure guage remained at room temperature throughout. Hydrogen was released, initially as a cool jet, but when subsequently lit by a match the flame melted stainless steel wire at a temperature of about 3.000°F.
2.4 Broad programmes for Phases 1 and 2 were then agreed, as illustrated in Annex B.
Other Points made in Discussion.
3.1 SM is concerned that the concentration of his project in him, his laboratory and even in the United States, renders it vulnerable to various kinds of hostile action; he has numerous examples of threats, from both within and outside the US, on record. Since he has
recently obtained security clearance to publicise and demonstrate outside the US any aspect of WFC technology which is not militarily classified. he wishes to disperse his activities as much as possible. He wishes to do so initially to and, in due course, through the UK to
Europe. Hence his welcome to PTL.
3.2 Whilst PTL would be SM's main UK partner in the field of all reciprocating engines, two other main areas need to be addressed as soon as possible, namely gas turbines for

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aircraft and ship propulsion and power generation AG underrook to pursue both these areas. Meanwhile SM recognised that some 12 conversion kits might soon be required for
the UK.
3.3 TD accepted thar AG should continue to brief the DTI, MoD, and any other interested parties in the UK on the general aspects of these talks. The matter of a ‘confidentiality agreement’ between SM, TD and AG, to cover release of propriety technical details, is still under discussion by SM with his legal adviser.
3.4 The Phase 2 plan needs to be discussed and agreed with the owner of the ‘Brunel’, Mr C.Livett of Livett Launches. AG would take action.
3.5 Phase 1 demonstrations would be handled by PTL and staged at Peterborough. Whilst Phase 2 demonstrations are expected to include the ‘Brunel’ on the Thames, they might also include WFC application to gas turbines and power generation. AG would initiate action with SM and GP when the situation on Point 3.2 above had developed.
3.6 SM estimated that the cost in production of vehicle conversion kits would be about $1,500 for a car and about $3,500 for a truck. (The higher cost for trucks reflected their more robust requirement.)
3.7 SM referred to previous discussion with AG about ‘hyperdrive', which is a radically advanced development of WFC technology and of particular application to ships. SM _ would send more details to AG.
3.8 The 6 in number Voltage Intensifier Circuir bobbins which AG had had manufactured in the UK at SM's request, had arrived safely and were of the necessary quality.
3.9 In the same way as SM is making his basic WFC technology unrestrictedly available on commercial terms, it was his policy to ensure that any new methods or improvements
which his customers might devise would be equally transferable.
3.10 There seemed to be no insuperable problem about the ‘Brune!’ conversion, though the fact that the fuel pump would have to Pump water instead of dieso needs to be addressed.
3.11 The precise cost and form of commercial agreement between SM and PTL was in hand with GP. The broader aspect of a global commercial plan was not discussed.
3.12 Photographs taken 7/8 October, Annex C. SM's News Release, No. 9 Annex D. Distribution See Annex B A.T.F.G.G. 13.10.92

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BRIEF FOR MEETING BETWEEN ANNEX A
PERKINS TECHNOLOGY LTD AND ADMIRAL GRIFFIN —————
RE DEMONSTRATION OF TYPE 6,.3544M ENGINE
1600 WEDNESDAY 2ND SEPTEMBER 1992
AT THE INSTITUTE OF DIRECTORS
INDEX
ANNEX DATE ITEM REMARKS
A 29.6.90 AG fax to SM Brunel's engine and phots. Distributors in US (Workshop manual posted to SM, 7.7.90)
B 18.7.90 Fax AG to SM Contact with KW, who has Patent 4936961. Kember en van Quist,diesel spark plugs.
Cl 14.9.90 AG letrer to KW Introduces proposition
C2 28.9.90 Fax SM to AG Machining cost for conversion of fittings.
D 17.6.91 ML,KH,AG Memo Appreciation. Universal Adoption of H
El 30.6.91 AG letter to CL Request for Brune/ time charter
E2 22.7.91 CL letter to AG Quotation for Brune! time charter.
Fil 25.8.91 AG fax to SM Plea for application to Marine Diesel
F2 * 26.8.91 GP fax to AG and SM Fuel pump mounting details F3 19.9.91 Invoice + air freight | Golden Arrow Marine fuel pump to SM
Gl 12.9.91 Memo by AG Outline plan for Demo, on previous UK basis. G2 15.8.91 AG letter to MC Estimated cost of above Demo. G3 Map of Tower Area
G4 14.9.91 World Trade Centre. Quotation for Devon House. H * 2.10.91 Meeting at P.Dev.Ltd TD, GP and AG.
| Dec 1988 Instructions SM's Dealership Deals
I2 3.8.91 Memo Appreciation by AG of Licencing Policy
13 16.8.92 Note of meeting Sir K StJ, Mark Cliff & AG.Commercial plan. 14 25.3.92 Letter AG to SM International Business Structure. Proposals.
Ji 13.4.92 Letter Bramble to AG Covering Laughton Report on SM's patents. J2 18.4.92 AG letter to Bramble Collaterals for WFC technology.
K Memo Draft Confidentiality Agreement.
L Maps Ohio & Columbus area.
M * 7.8.92 Memo Account of AG visit to SM Ohio,3-4 Aug.'92.
N 19,8.92 FAX from Sagantec Offer to develop and programme chip
* Not included.

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ANNEX B
PERKINS TECHNOLOGY LTD
PROJECT "TACO'
PHASE 1
DEMONSTRATION OF VW DUPLICATE AT PTL FOR PROOF OF CONCEPT TESTING
SM TO COMPLETE CHIP SPECIFICATION.
PTL PROCURE VW 1600cc ENGINE.
SM PROCURE DUPLICATE WFC CONVERSION KIT.
PTL TEST BED RIG AND INSTRUMENT VW ENGINE
SM FIT WFC CONVERSION KIT TO ENGINE AT PTL
PTL RUN EVALUATION TESTS AND PASS COPY OF ALL TEST DATA TO SM.
PHASE 2
DEMONSTRATION OF TYPE 6.3544M ENGINE FOR THE ‘BRUNEL'
PTL PROCURE 6.3544M ENGINE FOR WFC RETROFITTING.
PTL AND SM DESIGN MINIMUM CHANGE RETROFIT KIT - MAXIMUM USE OF
VW KIT WHERE POSSIBLE.
SM PROCURE WFC RETROFIT KIT.
SM FIT KIT AT PTL.
PTL RUN TEST BED EVALUATION.
PTL EITHER :-
A) CONVERT THE ‘BRUNEL' ENGINE WITH THE WFC KIT.
Bas B) INSTAL THE TEST BED EVALUATION ENGINE.
PTL AND AG ORGANISE APPROPRIATE PRESENTATION EVENT.
PHASE 3
MARKET SECTOR IDENTIFICATION AND PROGRAMMING
PTL RECOMMEND A PHASER TRUCK PROGRAMME.
PTL RECOMMEND A PASSENGER CAR PROGRAMME.
PTL AND AG RECOMMEND A MARINE PROGRAMME.
PTL CONSIDER NEW ENGINE DESIGN IMPLICATIONS,

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ANNEX B
PERKINS TECHNOLOGY LTD
PROJECT "TACO’
PHASE 1
DEMONSTRATION OF VW DUPLICATE AT PTL FOR PROOF OF CONCEPT TESTING
SM TO COMPLETE CHIP SPECIFICATION.
PTL PROCURE VW 1600cc ENGINE.
SM PROCURE DUPLICATE WFC CONVERSION KIT.
PTL TEST BED RIG AND INSTRUMENT VW ENGINE
SM FIT WFC CONVERSION KIT TO ENGINE AT PT L
PTL RUN EVALUATION TESTS AND PASS COPY OF ALL TEST DATA TO SM.
PHASE 2
DEMONSTRATION OF TYPE 6.3544M ENGINE FOR THE ‘BRUNEL'
PTL PROCURE 6.3544M ENGINE FOR WFC RETROFITTING.
PTL AND SM DESIGN MINIMUM CHANGE RETROFIT KIT - MAXIMUM USE OF
VW KIT WHERE POSSIBLE.
SM PROCURE WFC RETROFIT KIT.
SM FIT KIT AT PTL.
PTL RUN TEST BED EVALUATION.
PTL EITHER :-
A) CONVERT THE ‘BRUNEL’ ENGINE WITH THE WFC KIT,
: B) INSTAL THE TEST BED EVALUATION ENGINE.
PTL AND AG ORGANISE APPROPRIATE PRESENTATION EVENT.
PHASE 3
MARKET SECTOR IDENTIFICATION AND PROGRAMMING
__—S—————aaoOEEA AND. PROGRAMMING
PTL RECOMMEND A PHASER TRUCK PROGRAMME.
PTL RECOMMEND A PASSENGER CAR PROGRAMME.
PTL AND AG RECOMMEND A MARINE PROGRAMME.
PTL CONSIDER NEW ENGINE DESIGN IMPLICATIONS.

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PERKINS GORDEN PURKINS, TONY DOWNS, MIKE
GRAHAM VIEWING DUNE BUGGY AS INVENTOR STAN
MEYER SHOWS THE WATER FUEL INJECTORS
PERKINS GORDEN PURKINS, TONY DOWNS, MIKE GRAHAM
VIEWING HOW WFC WATER FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM ®
UPGRADE UNIT BEING RETROFITTED TO DUNE BUGGY

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PERKINS TONY DOWNS, GORDEN PURKINS, MIKE
GRAHAM, AND INVENTOR STANLEY
MEYER TALKING ON HOW THE WATER FUEL
INJECTION SYSTEM ® IS TO BE RETROFITTED
TO A 6.3544M MARINE DIESEL PERKIN ENGINE
FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRANSPORTING
SIR ADMIRAL GRIFFIN ON THE THAMES
RIVER PASS BRITISH PARLIAMENT WHILE IN
SESSION TO CREATE NAVAL HISTORY
CHARLES HOLBROOK MELTING STAINLESS
WIRE FROM HYDROGEN/OXYGEN GASES BEING
EMIITTED FROM TUBULAR-ARRAY WATER
FUEL CELL USING WATER AS FUEL

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SIR ADMIRAL TONY GRIFFIN HOLDING VOLTAGE
INTENSIFIER CORE ASSEMBLY GROVE CITY LAB
OF INVENTOR STANLEY MEYER
PERKINS GORDEN PURKINS AND INVENTOR
STANLEY MEYER AFTER NEGOTIATING
"THE TREATY OF TACO BELL”

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SIR ADMIRAL TONY GRIFFIN PARTICIPANT
AT THE "THE TREATY OF TACO BELL”
ray “Rms,
INVENTOR STANLEY MEYER NEGOTIATOR
AT THE "THE TREATY OF TACO BELL"

Provenance
- Pages
- pages 102–112 of 140
- Binder
- WFC Project Binder 423-DA
- Method
- pdftoppm 300dpi + tesseract 5 (eng), orientation-corrected
- Source
- WFC International Independent Test-Evaluation Report (1995), scanned binder
- Attribution
- Perkins Technology Ltd
- Reproduced material
- Reproduced inside Meyer's 1995 report as bound; copyright is the original author's.