New Hypothesis for producing voltage in a semiconducting zone

#1 · date not recorded

Hello,
I have a hypothesis that i would like to share.
I have some views on how to propagate a voltage in a material which in most normal circumstances does not want to take on much voltage and would much rather pass current.

So looking at a water fuel cell from the most elementary perspective, we know that the current in the proposed capacitor is created due to contaminates. These contaminates are ions which take on a physical force from the voltage zones and are forcefully attracted or repelled to the opposite charged zone..
They then loose their opposite charge and possibly take on like charge then repel back across the gap?
This is something Stan claimed to be able to hinder in his process correct?

So my first question is when the water molecule is stretched, does it increase in its electrostatic polar force? I would assume so.. water is a covalent molecule that groups in clusters due to ionic bonding which is accomplished by it having polar fields.. (a positive and negative electrostatic occurrence on opposite sides.) this is the force which makes water a solvent and allows it to break other bonds such as NaCL...

So this ionic bonding force must increase when the molecule elongates? If so would that make the random ions in water (contaminates) more attracted to the ionic bonding forces of the water?

Is it possible to very delicately induce normal LC resonance (start with low voltage that does not encourage strong ion movement through water) in a way that is very focal on the molecules and allow them to begin elongating in such a way as to when voltage increases more and more the ionic fields cause a "SUSPENSION" of the contaminating ions.. If the ionic field is stronger or = to the exciter plates voltage field.. would it not keep the ion by the molecule and suspend it from traveling to a plate?..

So all in all the hypothesis has to do with if its possible to control resonance in such a way that there is a equal or greater increase in ionic polar forces in relation to the plates voltage forces presented to contaminating ions.

Best Regards,
VoltageMan

Steve

#2 · date not recorded

Quote from: VoltageMan on June 25, 2014, 22:41:51 pm

Hello,
I have a hypothesis that i would like to share.
I have some views on how to propagate a voltage in a material which in most normal circumstances does not want to take on much voltage and would much rather pass current.

So looking at a water fuel cell from the most elementary perspective, we know that the current in the proposed capacitor is created due to contaminates. These contaminates are ions which take on a physical force from the voltage zones and are forcefully attracted or repelled to the opposite charged zone..
They then loose their opposite charge and possibly take on like charge then repel back across the gap?
This is something Stan claimed to be able to hinder in his process correct?

So my first question is when the water molecule is stretched, does it increase in its electrostatic polar force? I would assume so.. water is a covalent molecule that groups in clusters due to ionic bonding which is accomplished by it having polar fields.. (a positive and negative electrostatic occurrence on opposite sides.) this is the force which makes water a solvent and allows it to break other bonds such as NaCL...

So this ionic bonding force must increase when the molecule elongates? If so would that make the random ions in water (contaminates) more attracted to the ionic bonding forces of the water?

Is it possible to very delicately induce normal LC resonance (start with low voltage that does not encourage strong ion movement through water) in a way that is very focal on the molecules and allow them to begin elongating in such a way as to when voltage increases more and more the ionic fields cause a "SUSPENSION" of the contaminating ions.. If the ionic field is stronger or = to the exciter plates voltage field.. would it not keep the ion by the molecule and suspend it from traveling to a plate?..

So all in all the hypothesis has to do with if its possible to control resonance in such a way that there is a equal or greater increase in ionic polar forces in relation to the plates voltage forces presented to contaminating ions.

Best Regards,
VoltageMan

Hi and welcome to this forum voltageman.

Interesting theory.
my first reaction on that is that i think that when you stretch the watermolecule by force, you will weaken the bonds and not that the bonds are getting stronger.
Otherwise, electrolysis would never occure.
Or did i not understand you well?

Steve

VoltageMan

#3 · date not recorded

The bond is weakened between the hydrogen and oxygen in the molecule due to the distance between them... but the oxygen still possesing its negative charge and the hydrogen being further from the oxygen leaves them having higher potential fields to interact with other local charges?? ..

sebosfato

#4 · date not recorded

The idea is good but i guess the thing is much simpler... I'm not sure, why the ions would be more attracted to the molecules than to the electrodes?

I guess is all about restricting the amps allowing the voltage to take over and do all the work in the dead short cell.

Br

VoltageMan

#5 · date not recorded

well voltage is technically distributed in a cell.. so each molecule is like a mini capacitor.. as they elongate they are taking on more charge.. one might be able to allow the molecules attraction force be = or greater than the plate in a resonant condition which would hinder travel of said ions and stop current

geon

#6 · 30 Jun 2014

the problem for this to work would take almost the field that you would apply to break the covalent bond by an electric field... electron orbits elongate but its in very high fields not available to us.