Frequency,s for pulsed electrolysis known by me, till sofar
Started by unknown · · 51 posts · last reply 15 September 2019
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I Updated the lawton circuit again, It has a total of 4 pots now. I will post the new schematic when I get time. Im still researching these chokes atm. -
#27 ·
Here is the schematic of Poch.
The coil must be bifilar.
Then tune the frequency and also the pulse width.
opt3.pdf
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#28 ·
For those that does not know,
Can you tell me what you hear him telling you?
Start at 33:26
He tries to explain the working of the cell.
I hear: two round electrodes and one is put inside of the other.
They want spark against eachother.
Thats what creates the hydrogen.
Basically he controlled a bomb.
The the same at 36:53
Lid of the cell and he saw sparks in the units (tubes)
He heard it snapping like electrical shorts
You need a strong alternator to keep the battery up.
Then at 43:46
Tiny sparks and the water started boiling
What do you hear?
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#29 ·
Right now I am sorta Ticked off, Because I sent 20 thousand cycles per seconds to my setup via pwm with no success, just gets the fet hot at such high frequencys. I used a 101 cap, 0.0001
I've been using a static LED for a polarity Determinator and I cant get a potential across the cell, it goes threw it. I am having no luck with this at 20k Hertz. It promises nothing.
I will have to go back and listen to the audio, im about to run out of time for today. My Beatiful Lady lets me play electronics on some weekends and with kids if I dont stay up and not sleep I do not get to test anything. My soldering iron went out and its a Bitch soldering 2 resistors together.
I can tell you this, You guys, Please No longer use a shunt Diode. I was Blowing 10 amp shunts that got very hot. I now use a 4.7 Microfarad cap, its orange. Salvage those big ones! Also, 10 Uf, or any good size from a heating and Cooling air conditionor will work better for a shunt than a Diode, and it really recirculates the power and makes the primary coil thump, and it does not wast large amounts of heat like the shunt diode. I have made atleast 5 or so updates to the lawton circuit. Im sorry but it was flawed badly. I will update the circuit when I get time to draw. There is many errors in that circuit, Honestly, I dont see how anyone can test with such junk. I am by no way putting dave lawton down by any means, but you guys really need my schematic so you an make changes to your circuits if you are going to be using the amazing 555 timer. -
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For those that does not know,
Can you tell me what you hear him telling you?
Start at 33:26
He tries to explain the working of the cell.
I hear: two round electrodes and one is put inside of the other.
They want spark against eachother.
Thats what creates the hydrogen.
Basically he controlled a bomb.
The the same at 36:53
Lid of the cell and he saw sparks in the units (tubes)
He heard it snapping like electrical shorts
You need a strong alternator to keep the battery up.
Then at 43:46
Tiny sparks and the water started boiling
What do you hear?
In an interview, Steven Meyer said that he would never go back to the spark cell....
Thats exactly what his father explained in Brians interview as well....
So, Stan had in his early designs and even maybe in his later ones, low voltage and high voltage in his cell.
Thats actually the same Herman Anderson said he was doing....
Its like the cold fusion setups , but then just with pulses and not with a continues dc.
So a pulse of low voltage dc with current, followed by a higher voltage spark......
Hmmmmmm
Let me think on that...
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#31 ·
I CRACKED STANS TECHNOLOGY! ITS COLD ITS COLD ITS COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE VIC IS RIGHT! ITS ALL RIGHT!
YOUR ALL LOOKING AT IT WRONG! OMG ITS SO EASY
STAN WASN'T HIDING ANYTHING, WE WERE ALL JUST TO SMART TO FIGURE IT OUT.
anyone that even knows the basics can not get this to work, IT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK, But the schematic is correct! The Schematic is Correct!
YOU PULSE THE DIODE SO THAT NO CURRECT FLOWS THREW IT, HOW DID EVERYONE MISS THIS? I AM PRODUCING GOOD AMOUNTS IN THE MCIROWATTS REGIONS! AND WITH AN IRON CORE!
STEVIE, GO BACK AND TRY IT AGAIN BUT THIS TIME CONNECT THE DIODE THE WAY AN IDIOT WOULD AND IT WORKS!
I CONFIRMED THE CHOKES DOES INCREASE THE VOLTAGE!
THIS IS ALL YOU WILL GET FROM ME FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO.
HAPPY TESTING! -
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#33 · date not recorded
I CRACKED STANS TECHNOLOGY! ITS COLD ITS COLD ITS COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE VIC IS RIGHT! ITS ALL RIGHT!
YOUR ALL LOOKING AT IT WRONG! OMG ITS SO EASY
STAN WASN'T HIDING ANYTHING, WE WERE ALL JUST TO SMART TO FIGURE IT OUT.
anyone that even knows the basics can not get this to work, IT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK, But the schematic is correct! The Schematic is Correct!
YOU PULSE THE DIODE SO THAT NO CURRECT FLOWS THREW IT, HOW DID EVERYONE MISS THIS? I AM PRODUCING GOOD AMOUNTS IN THE MCIROWATTS REGIONS! AND WITH AN IRON CORE!
STEVIE, GO BACK AND TRY IT AGAIN BUT THIS TIME CONNECT THE DIODE THE WAY AN IDIOT WOULD AND IT WORKS!
I CONFIRMED THE CHOKES DOES INCREASE THE VOLTAGE!
THIS IS ALL YOU WILL GET FROM ME FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO.
HAPPY TESTING!
Somebody is happy here.......
uhhhhhh...what did you exactly do here? -
#34 · date not recorded
hey... so you are saying the chokes have greater voltage than secondary and in opposite direction, that's why you say the diode won't conduct during pulse on?
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#35 · date not recorded
hey... so you are saying the chokes have greater voltage than secondary and in opposite direction, that's why you say the diode won't conduct during pulse on?
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#36 · date not recorded
I CRACKED STANS TECHNOLOGY! ITS COLD ITS COLD ITS COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE VIC IS RIGHT! ITS ALL RIGHT!
YOUR ALL LOOKING AT IT WRONG! OMG ITS SO EASY
STAN WASN'T HIDING ANYTHING, WE WERE ALL JUST TO SMART TO FIGURE IT OUT.
anyone that even knows the basics can not get this to work, IT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK, But the schematic is correct! The Schematic is Correct!
YOU PULSE THE DIODE SO THAT NO CURRECT FLOWS THREW IT, HOW DID EVERYONE MISS THIS? I AM PRODUCING GOOD AMOUNTS IN THE MCIROWATTS REGIONS! AND WITH AN IRON CORE!
STEVIE, GO BACK AND TRY IT AGAIN BUT THIS TIME CONNECT THE DIODE THE WAY AN IDIOT WOULD AND IT WORKS!
I CONFIRMED THE CHOKES DOES INCREASE THE VOLTAGE!
THIS IS ALL YOU WILL GET FROM ME FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO.
HAPPY TESTING!
Somebody is happy here.......
uhhhhhh...what did you exactly do here?
just as the last 2 post stated... No power threw diode during pulse on, thats the way it works! -
#37 ·
i think we re all curious to see it. tells us more please?
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#38 ·
Theres nothing to tell, the on pulse isn't what matters, its when it is off the voltage flows threw the chokes and kicks back at a resonate frequency of the circuit. Thats all I know. Get your chokes and put the vic back up on the test table.
I will however say, I got resonance with several different values of capacitors, 223j, 224j, both were low freq. it is very easy to get results with these caps. anyone that builds the pwm will find it. also, I controlled the voltage at the gate of the N channel fet. I ground the gate out threw a 100k pot, and I use a 690 ohm resister on pin 3 of the timer just before the ground out pot. I use a shunt diode. its all very basic. -
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I found out the choke is actually a resonate tuning choke, you can't try to force current threw it. It is the off pulse that allows the voltage to cause a resonance. Also, I'm finding that it is very difficult to do this with 12 volt pulses. Also at very high frequencyies there is not a shunt that will hold up. Shunts was massive amounts of heat. The shunt will have to be replaced with anither coil by use of a shunt to perform more work for a maximum efficiency. I have some little success in doing just that. I am at the baby stages of the Vic, I have tapped into the proper direction but much more improvements has to be met. The circuit is that of a radio! The choke is tunable just like a radio would be. I have to add, 12 volts isn't really enough to get the voltage you need to be working with to cause a choke resonance. I'll post everything I continue to find. I don't know how Stan knew this. -
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I found out the choke is actually a resonate tuning choke, you can't try to force current threw it. It is the off pulse that allows the voltage to cause a resonance. Also, I'm finding that it is very difficult to do this with 12 volt pulses. Also at very high frequencyies there is not a shunt that will hold up. Shunts was massive amounts of heat. The shunt will have to be replaced with anither coil by use of a shunt to perform more work for a maximum efficiency. I have some little success in doing just that. I am at the baby stages of the Vic, I have tapped into the proper direction but much more improvements has to be met. The circuit is that of a radio! The choke is tunable just like a radio would be. I have to add, 12 volts isn't really enough to get the voltage you need to be working with to cause a choke resonance. I'll post everything I continue to find. I don't know how Stan knew this.
Stan was a smart cooky.....
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#41 · date not recorded
Yes he also did this with iron core alternator. Look in his schematic see if he uses ferrit chokes, get back to me. Thanks. -
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Just found out you have to have a scr diode, not sure what or why. -
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I am finding out you have to have a SCR, that is a Diode with a Gate Trigger to turn it off and on. Stanley had a Photo of a SCR on one of his VICs but it was not labeled.
Stevie, Go ahead and Collect you a SCR.
Unlike our time together before stevie, I will be working with you in the same manner I have in the past few weeks.
It is possible the SCR was triggered on its Highest peek.
I know I stated the Resonance on the diode off time, But I was getting results, Cold ones. BUT, I have seen other things that have also caught my eye. THE SCR IS ONE OF THEM!
Get your SCR's, and standby for further findings.
I am noticing allot more on stans patents that I did in the past. We have all been working on this a long time. I look to further stans technology than what we already have it. I look to do this with you guys as my friends and best group! -
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What we know as to date, Stans technology was based on the alternator which had a IRON core, I must look into that setup for a ferrite choke. I dont think their is one. I am Weeding out much. I have distilled water here for testing purposes. I will test as I can, Normally once a week. When I perform test, I have help, and I do not sleep on those days.
Look forward to seeing Facts threw testing not guessing.
I have recently in the last 2 days Made a Ferrite core VIC, I have tested in a few different ways. More results Later on that. -
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Sorry for Poll posting. I would like to add. My Shunt diodes are 10 amps per diode. I have fried one with over current of a primary coil of about .9 ohms. I have had to shut the system down because twin shunts overheated. I have used a 5 UF capacitor that never got hot, but made the Primary coil THUMP and it took the place of the Shunt. I have Also used a Inductor. There is somthing here to this puzzle when debating a Shunt and Cap, or inductor.
My Next step is putting a Shunt with a Inductor. Their cant be a Resistive load greater than the FET or the current will pop the fet. At this time my thoughts are the Shunts secondary inductor must be greater in size and smaller in resistance than its primary coil. I Plan to research this further later.
I have a few of stans patents I need to print out.
Could someone Please Post the patent numbers to stans most Basic patents here for me to print off. Or direct me to the most basic ones, and where the best place is to get them as my time is limited to the point any effort you put in to help me will be greatly appreaciated.
I was told stan did not try and hide anything, and I believe that. Also, do any of you guys know where I can salvage a SCR, if not, I will have to buy one and at this Time I do not have the funds. Any donations will be greatly appreaciated. Even if it is a SCR you want to mail me. My soldering iron broke, and Im waiting on one in the mail. Im currently using an old one and its a bitch.
Message me if you need my address, to anyone that wants to mail me any cores, Scr's, or the like. I am not asking for money. If no one contributes thats ok, I understand. I will still continue to do what I can and post what I find.
I really need a 6" acrylic tube 13" long for my old tube cell. I do not even know where to purchase this. Any links for that or donations will be great! Thanks guys.
My Main focus is to Search Stans Patents for this area on the shunt. Any Info if you have any of this knowledge on hand would be greatly appreciated! -
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#47 ·
I really need a 6" acrylic tube 13" long for my old tube cell. I do not even know where to purchase this. Any links for that or donations will be great! Thanks guys.
Google is yr best friend.....
https://www.estreetplastics.com/Acrylic-Tube-s/45.htm -
#48 ·
Stevie, Go ahead and Collect you a SCR.
Unlike our time together before stevie, I will be working with you in the same manner I have in the past few weeks.
Whatever makes you feel comfortable, Brian.
I must finish my replication of Horvath.
I have invested a lot of money in that crazy setup, so at least i have to finish it.
But little babys consume a lot of my time. The little dude is worth it..
So less daddy experimenting time at the moment.. -
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Samo Samo here! -
#50 · date not recorded
Confirmation:
One of the famous names is Joe. Joe of the Joe Cell.
In one of his videos he said the following thing, when he was testing the power of the gas.
He said that the gas produced when the power to the cell was off is much more powerfull then the gas with the batterycharger on.
He used a 3 second pulse or pause
Steve