Frequency generator with 3 squarewaves / 3 primairy coils / 1 secondairy coil
Started by unknown · · 36 posts · last reply 26 September 2011
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#1 · date not recorded
Hi,
This schematic is about 3 frequencys going into a core for harmonics.
1 output into a WFC.
This schematic is from Kumaran.
The idea is from Bob Boyce.
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#2 ·
And here is a very nice developed circuit of Mr. Les Banki
Its based on the idea of Bob Boyce.
In this schematic you can adjust all 3 frequencys in sync or just close to sync.
That close to sync would be better...
People build this.
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#3 ·
and another one...
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#4 ·
And here is a very nice developed circuit of Mr. Les Banki
Do anyone have a good scheme Banki20PWM.jpg, I want to try. This is not happening. The forum http://waterfuelforall.com/forum - this scheme is not.
Its based on the idea of Bob Boyce.
In this schematic you can adjust all 3 frequencys in sync or just close to sync.
That close to sync would be better...
People build this.
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#5 ·
And here is a very nice developed circuit of Mr. Les Banki
Its based on the idea of Bob Boyce.
In this schematic you can adjust all 3 frequencys in sync or just close to sync.
That close to sync would be better...
People build this.
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Steve
fenedev, you should write a pm or email to passion1. He is a member of ionizationx and he has contacts with mr les bankie.
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steve
Do anyone have a good scheme Banki20PWM.jpg, I want to try. This is not happening. The forum http://waterfuelforall.com/forum - this scheme is not. -
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its kinda weird how david sereda on the talk show speaks about harmonic codes/ multiple harmonic waves. kinda revelant for this setup huh?? -
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It is , I wonder if theres a dual primary on the VIC .
I wonder is the particle oscillation follows some sort of resonant frequency .
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#8 · date not recorded
dude i have wondered the same thing.. since it says it on 6-1 image right? if so i was imaging it wound look like this.attachment_3367 vic dual bidirectional.jpg
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#9 ·
bidirectional means that you can wind it from right to left then left to right and back and forth or even vice versa.....the windings don't have to be in the same continuous direction like the bifilar and secondary do.....that is one of the purposes for the seperate sections......and anyways the primary is only one wire.....so how the hell could you do what you drew.....the primary isn't 2 wires it's one. -
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bidirectional means that you can wind it from right to left then left to right and back and forth or even vice versa.....the windings don't have to be in the same continuous direction like the bifilar and secondary do.....that is one of the purposes for the seperate sections......and anyways the primary is only one wire.....so how the hell could you do what you drew.....the primary isn't 2 wires it's one.
haha dont speak to soon . -
#11 ·
then prove me wrong.
look up the term bidirectional winding. -
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its hard to prove it with such little winding details.attachment_3377 vic.jpg
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#13 ·
Good idea stc , who knows ...
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that is a very good point....but don't rely on the pictures. The text is the focus.....no where in the text does it say there are two wires for hte primary.......by the word "DUAL" it can imply the chokes and primary wound upon the same bobbin.....where dual resonant coils can mean both (plural) COILS are wound upon the same bobbin....it woud have read dual primaries......but it does not. -
#15 ·
the detail in the 2 circles is enough to know that hes not relating the chokes and primary as dual..
for the chokes it says dual resonant charging coils (56/62)
for primary it says dual primary coil (26)
notice the s on the end of coils for the charging choke and the relation he gives the postive and neg stainless shokes, reference numbers. (56/62)
he says dual primary coil (singular subject) as in its not coils as a pos and a neg but a dual primary.
dankie think on this with me.. focus on the drawing i made earlier of my insight. focus on how i labeled the wire raps as polarities red/black..it shows how they cross and switch to the second level in the middle.. now think of what it would do if you pulsed it with the same pulse but it was pushing negative from both sides as well as positve. so it would have primarys current and freq hitting from both sides opposing right? in some type of impeadance manner? now focus on how the winds allow one half to have the negative side of induction to be dominant to inner core and one have to be dominate with positive. vise versa on outter wind closet to secondary.. what would current of 12v 3.3amp 15khz do in that situation.. are thes the right question for this situation.
outlawstcattachment_3379 vic.jpg
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#16 ·
another question to ask is how would a colapsing secondary react to it as well -
#17 ·
Outlaw,
I talked to dynodon about the connections on the coil of Meyers they saw. He said it had the 4 contacts coming out of both sides like the side we can see in the photo. 8 contacts total he said he was sure. Thats 4 ea for the chokes, 2 for the primary, and 2 for the secondary. I think thats how it should work. -
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BUT ON PAGE 8-7 OF THE TECH BRIEF
VIC Voltage Sync-Pulse Circuit
Voltage Sync-Pulse Gated Frequency (583 / 602a xxx 583 / 602n) (603/604a xxx 603/604n)
of Figure (8-1) as to (605/606a xxx 605/606n) (607/608a xxx 6071608n) (609 / 611a xxx 609 /
611n) of Figure (8-2) ... all, forming Voltage Pulse Burst Wave (619) as to Unipolar Pulse-Train
(780A), Crossover Unipolar Pulse-Train (780B), and Clipped Unipolar Pulse Train (780C) as to
Traveling Voltage Wave-Action (770) of Figure (8-1) of opposite voltage polarity
RE: Voltage Wave-Guide Memo WFC 427
Stanley A. Meyer 8-7
(+/-) of equal Voltage-Pulse Amplitudes (+Vpp/- Vpp) are zero reference to electrical ground state
(OV) by placing Amp Inhibitor Circuit (860) (Amp Inhibiting Coil 617, Blocking Diode 618, and
Magnetic Induction Core 619) between electrical ground (OV) and Center Tap of Dual Bifilar
Secondary Pickup Coils (616A/B) of VIC Matrix Circuit (690) of Figure (7-8) as to VIC Impedance
Network Circuit (620) of Figure (7-1) , as illustrated in (840) of Figure (8-10). By doing so, Balance
Phasing of opposite voltage intensity (+Vpp / - Vpp) is accomplished without experiencing current
influxing caused by differential variances where Negative Voltage Peak Potential (-Vpp) is less than
Positive Voltage Peak Potential (+Vpp) or Vise Versa ... allowing Inductor Resonant Choke Coils
Electromagnetic Fields Intensity (+Z2 / -Z3) to be, in turn, free of Electromagnetic variances of
intensity (Z2 - Z3). This non-voltage shift (Balance Phasing of opposite Voltage Potential) helps
prevents atom displacement during "Snapping-Action" by which "Resonant Electrical Stress" of
opposite electrical polarity (RU/RU' - ST/ST') is applied equally across Water Molecule (s) (85) to
propagate either Static (585) or Dynamic (612) Electrical Charging Effect (s) at elevated Voltage
Peak Potential (s). Amp Inhibiting Coil-Assembly (617) is made up of magnetic inductance
Stainless Steel 430FIFR wire material wrapped around a closed-loop Induction Magnetic Core (619)
which is a separate coil-unit (860) apart from VIC Coil Assembly (580) of Figure (6-1). Blocking
Diode (618) functions as an "Electrical Isolator" that prevents electrical discharge of Dual
Secondary Coil (616A / B) during applied Pulsing Operations (49a xxx 49n).
To ensure and maintain Capacitance Charging Effect (650) of Figure (7-4) across -
#19 ·
very true john
but to not see the internal of the 3 d object cant give you all the answers. .. just throwing out posibilities... theres one thing i would say is kinda over looked.. the secondarys are already external.. they are gonna be sodered to choke tab anyways right? if it was a full bobbin there wouldnt be a spot for the last winds tab since its already external. so maybe it is 4 primary and 4 chokes. was the one dynodon seen wound?
cheers
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komtek has a coil built and on a circuit. He says we have to have another signal that hits at 90 degrees. He thinks its a RF or micro freq that has to be added. Bob Boyce said his hydroxy production went extremely high when a diode in his alternator failed and ran one leg of AC with his circuit. We may have to add another primary for a seperate signal to get performance.
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#21 ·
this is how i see 6-1 in sync pulse configuration. not saying its right, just throwing paint on the canvas.attachment_3383 6-1 SYNC PULSE.jpg
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#22 ·
i think having the primary magnetic field permeate into the secondary nad the resonant ss chokes is all we need.....one primary....stan never mentions 2 primaries in his solid state setup using dc pulses......remember there are 2 different attack methods rotary and solid state... -
#23 ·
but what are the impeadance effects if it were like this.
. those duals primarys would be 180 out from each other wound like that right? them being 180 out from each others current path on the induction core crossing in the middle stepping up to next level of wind.. notice how it would give you a positive inner wind and a neg outter.. maybe this puts off a different type of induction field with the core.?? what determines polarity within a single wound wire? direction of current flow right?
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#24 ·
The full size pictures and files for Banki's 3 freq generator can be found in this thread:
http://waterfuelforall.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0
Note that you have to be a registered member of the forum in order to see and download any of the attachments.
hope this helps
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#25 ·
lol good you pointed out the word "dual" in 6-1QuoteDual Choke Coils (56/62 _ SS56/62)
makes one think the bifilar in 6-1 is the dual layered copper-ss from fig. 10-4
For 1 wfc there are two separate vic's, one for positive one for negative, but both on a single core.
Interconnected through the 0V referenced coil and all in the same (or maybe opposite) magnetic direction.
you're very alert, stc.