Free energy from an electric field!
Started by unknown · · 36 posts · last reply 15 October 2013
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in monolayer graphene electrons only have one way to go but I'm not sure if classical mechanics applies there, it's complex stuff for me. -
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I was planning on creating an electron cloud with an electron emitter from an old tv. I came across a thread on a physics forum where someone stated that these electrons were just part of the circuit and enter back into it when hit the screen. This kind of puts a hole in my plans. Anyone have any good suggestions for creating an electron cloud? -
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You would need to confine them like antimatter, you need an electromagnetic bottle...
Of course the electrons need to complete the circuit, so the energy they gained derives from the electric force imposed. -
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Hmm ok, I was under the impression they were just released from a heated filament and were actually free electrons. -
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The magnetic bottle doesn't work as far as I know because the electrons interact with each other and they escape the magnetic field... when they escape they complete the circuit. I need a vacuum system really... I don't suppose anyone knows about a cheap diffusion pump without much shipping cost to my country? or I need a mig welder to build one..
the simplest configuration is with a capacitor the electric field is easily achieved this way but if the electrons hit the positive plate the ciruit will have made all the work ..the trick is to never hit the positive plate...
with 10kv in cap and initial 100v 4300% energy gain or more!.. with 5% out you have a "COP" of 2// trajectory of the electron is very hard to calculate I wonder how big diameter of a coil will take energy out.. HOW could I extract heat from the system?
Maybe meyer's circle coil thing has similarities..EPG
some precision equipment is needed \\ will write letter to santa for christmass
hint of the day: use magnets -
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I was planning on creating an electron cloud with an electron emitter from an old tv. I came across a thread on a physics forum where someone stated that these electrons were just part of the circuit and enter back into it when hit the screen. This kind of puts a hole in my plans. Anyone have any good suggestions for creating an electron cloud?
A cloud of stationary electrons can be produced by sending an electron beam through a couple of nylon threads, around a half inch apart. The nylon causes the beam to stop moving.
I was wondering why we can't take a crt and use an electret for the second anode? Power output would go from the screen electrode, through a load, then back to a cold cathode emitter, which operates on potential only. -
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hmmm how does cold cathode emitter doesnt consume power if electrons circulate ? -
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hmmm how does cold cathode emitter doesnt consume power if electrons circulate ?
It's based on the virtual photons you guys were talking about. Every time the field emits a virtual photon, it also pulls in a virtual anti photon from the environment. The cold cathode MAY consume a small amount of power, but this should be offset by the gain due to the second anode. The cusped field does the work, and the potential is not consumed, with an electret. -
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So you're saying to use a conductive electret for the anode of the emitter? -
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An electret might work as part of the emitter, but it would be better to use Farnsworth's multipactor cold cathode because you'd get more electrons to accelerate through the curved part of the tube, with the non conductive electret. The best type of emitter is a thin film diamond layer, like is used in some of the flat panel displays such as plasma screens. These have enough power you don't have to have a vacuum interface for the tunneling effect. But you would have to use Helium or some gas which doesn't form negative ions. Ions can eventually reduce an electret's charge. -
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I'm not very familiar with multipactor devices but if the electret's field is used for adding strength to the cathodes how will you control the on/off timing? In these devices there are 2 cathodes 1 anode in the middle and a resonant circuit that controls the potential of the cathodes .. http://journal.borderlands.com/1988/the-farnsworth-multipactor-tube/
this device looks promising... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_multiplier for what I must build
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