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yes, the truth is very close!
 

You don't need fixed voltage but tunable voltages and fixed frequency.
Water is earth, inner electrode is AC outer electrode is HV positive field.
Water is the dielectric, liquid electrode and hydrogen/oxygen source at the same time!!
Inner electrode is inside dielectric (connected to earth) !!
See how work electron generator of Patrick Flanagan.. you don't watch better!!!!
If now you don't have understand I sent you plans 

Fabio,
Inside your circuit I don't see any step-up transformer? How many voltage you produce? Inner electrode must be converted into electron emitter and outer tube must have positive field.   But you need high voltage for process dielectric water not low voltage. Free electrons, generated from electron emitter, must have high speed, they must impacts on  molecules  to knock of more electrons. HV Positive field on outer tube increase electrons speed. Now is more clear or you want that I sent you complete plans including UV reactor for micronic gas production?

Attached some types of DBD (Dielectric Barrier Discharge) Reactors

Read that!! http://oriharu.net/ufophysics/efg.htm

If you coating your wfc cell internally to outer tube and externally to inner tube  you create an simple DBD reactor.. but not an electron emitter.
 

NO! Any discharge inside. You need to create electrons flow inside. Need that you study dielectric absorption if you want really found the way. I repeat me .. You need and ELECTRON EMITTER INSIDE!
 

Yes, don't work because you have the high resistance produce from distilled water. You need an ELECTRON EMITTER inside WFC cell.
Seem that you don't read my words.. dielectric absorption and electron avalanche.. you need to start from here.. You have to understand how work. On internet are presents great examples.. need that you open your mind.. forget Meyer papers for an second. Your mind must be think independently from these papers.

"The force of the free electrons is then enhanced by dielectrophoresis and electrophoresis acting in a nonuniform electric field (positive field) , resulting in the electrons being forced at a high velocity into a small volume surrounding the 'emitter device'. Such a device or configuration can be set up anywhere, on any scale - even inside a liquid providing the liquid is a dielectric."
 
 

Ciao Fabio,
Nature think simply. We live thanks to the nature. Water, air, sun.. An my friend call Meyer "master of secrecy", and have right. Similarry to Leonardo da Vinci him have hidden some informations divided into some documents. Meyer was surely an great man but probably have found the wrong people. Inside documents and images that I have sended here is present every "water as dielectric", that is a clue. I'm sure that wfc work simply using dielectric absorption process. Meyer create brown gas? If yes extra electrons spiltted are presents inside. You need to focalize you on images sended yesterday from me. WFC have an ghost connection.. earth (or ground using an car). Meyer use AC not negative field in inner electrode and filter that on outer tube simply adding an hv diode trasforming in positive half field. But for create best electron avalanche you need ground. The key? Meyer use variable HV power supply using step-up transformer.. and hidden component inside WFC.. connected to only earth. Fabio I have spent years and  some moneys for study and  realized prototypes , my is private work .. but ...I want indicate to you the right way  because every one must be independent for energy creation but I can't sent you my plans.  You need to read better my words and after reassume all on paper. I hope you understand my point of view.. Regards Alessandro

Fabio,
Electrons create the gas through electron avalanche
Electrons are absorbed by water gas during process
Electrons are released when the gas dissociates or burn .
Electrons are natural catalyst.
I am convinced that this is the right way 

Yes, filter is that .. correct

Water energizer add energy to water trough uv irradiation.. see image attached
Probably I haven't explain better..   brown gas is water at gas state, that is mixed with nitrogen molecular extracted from nitrogen membrane and sended inside first UV reactor, here water gas (not liquid or vapour), extremely reactive, absorb UV energy and released that ionizing the nitrogen. Is an strange reaction but nitrogen in presence of water gas ionize very faster when is UV irradiated. When mixture ionized of HHO and nitrogen pass inside second UV reactor water gas dissociate at 95% forming ammonia and nitrous oxide thanks to extra electrons released from water gas. Using only nitrogen (and not air)you form new stechiometric fuel (40% NH3, 60%N2O)  burnable with little energy discharge (0,07mJ) and powerful three times of gasoline.
 I hope that now you have understand..

From that movie you can understand clearly what is really brown gas.. the extra electrons releasing when brown gas burn can vaporize metals, can melt different materials o metals togheter but brown gas return every water. See video at time 7:12. Imagine the effect of water inside your engine ..

Diagram posted in only for understand how principle work, you need to add some stage for filter KOH (if you use that), flashback arrestor, mixing chambre,etc..
I advise you about brown gas, first of all need to filter gas from electrolyte and water vapour because you can create poison gas very dangerous for life. Second if you use brown gas as additive for your engine you destroy your engine, the time of destruction depend only from the quantity of brown gas that you sent inside.. more brown gas and you destroy your engine fasctly. I have been tested that some time ago on special engine.. main problem is the oil mixed with water that creates an product similar to soap and accelerates the formation of rust on bearings and gears. All brown gas cells actually in commerce are very dangerous for your engine and your wallet. Micronic gas is the only solution. Regards Alessandro

HI Fabio,
One diagram is better then some words!
Now you understand?

sebosfato wrote:
Interesting! I appreciate, your theory. Is clear you are working hard and seriously in it. For me the explanation why you get more power than you put in is because is a catalyzed reaction, (maybe almost spontaneous) so you probably just photoactiwate it...
Yes! your concept is right, photoactivation is the key (in that case) .. when molecules of water are extremely reactive as brown gas you don't need more energy for split these but only right level of energy in that case right wavelenghts for ionization and dissociation

Images extracted from meyermemo pdf for to help your mind to quickly understand

HI Fabio,
First of all thanks for write here.
About your question Im happy to reply to you.
1- Water PH is very important in that process, for obtain NH3 you need PH <7.
2- You don't need arcs, plasma or some energy lost in heat for ionize nitrogen.. in that thread initially I have been write about that.. nitrogen in fact is ionized from the same water gas directly passing trough the same UV field. You need an "connection" from water gas and nitrogen or reaction can't appear.. you can ionize nitrogen in other stage but the time of ionization is very slow , another method is pre-charge nitrogen as Meyer using gas processor.
3- About catalyst .. Surely you know how catalyst work.. that is need for add ions or electrons inside reactions.. brown gas is special water gas and the extra electrons are inside molecule. When molecule split or burn released these, in our case are used for new molecule formation, instead when brown gas burn the extra electrons are used for fuse metals, vaporize metals or weld metal or other material together. Only the extra electrons are responsible for that.
4- About new cell.. In patent of Meyer some informations are wrong, some are reported on other patents for protection but all is written.. I suggest you to download meyer memo pdf file and watch the diagrams inside. Surely your eyes will notice the differences and your mind will analyze it in real time.
5- If you use RF you must use salt yes.. only 1% inside that but why you want complicate your life? 
I suggest you follow the road to produce brown gas in quantities reading and looking at the diagrams carefully meyermemo pdf file within the page 84
Other suggestion.. the liquid water that you put inside cell must be pre-charged first , remember pre-charged as Meyer suggest not pre-ionized 
 
Regards
Alessandro
 
 
 

NITROGEN/WATER GAS REACTION INSIDE UV REACTOR
 
SEE DIAGRAM ATTACHED

 THAT IS A NEW GAME FOR ALL PEOPLES
 FOUND WHAT IS THE RIGHT MEYER CIRCUIT AND YOU WIN THE TRUTH!!
 
 First circuit is extracted from Patent 5,149,407

 Second circuit extracted from Meyer Full Data document

Why the circuit cell connection on patent is different from the other?? What is the true and false?