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Stan Meyer - The Nitrogen Key

#15 ·

Aaron Murakami wrote:

Some n2o is created when ionized nitrogen is mixed in a combustion chamber with hho and ignited. A bit of nh3 and other molecules, which can condense bit by bit as it is recycled.

Michael John Nunnerley did this with his jet engine.

For make ammonia you need NOT just nitrogen and if you use air you must eliminate the oxygen. The ionization condition can't be present for more time and if you want make an chemical reaction all must be maked in the same time. Don't forget that for make hho you use enough electric energy. About heterodyne I have to see an working system actually is just an dream.

Stan Meyer - The Nitrogen Key

#9 ·

yes that is true.. quenching is just used for security.. if you want to make reactions you need high temperature, pressure or catalyst and pure nitrogen. With nitrogen you cam make ammonia and run an engine.. nitrogen can be the ONLY substitute of carbon.

Who has done ANYTHING with success along this topic?

#33 ·

people continue to invest on hho cells for have bad results.. there are inventors around the world that are working from years on hho cells without any good result. What you have to understand is .. I want make an different energy source but actually if you want substitute carbon you need to use nitrogen.. make ammonia on demand can be an great solution... But all peoples are oriented to ONLY make HHO .. But how many peoples know that hho cell produce a lot of carbon monoxide thanks to the steel interaction?? Apart make hho cells you must consider to unsderstand how these effectively work and what these produce. You can check simply if my words are an fake buying an low cost monoxide carbon instrument on internet and you found that you make more than >1500ppm of CO. That in all hho cells present on market. In this way you produce not only H2 O2 but also CO as output gas.

Air as fuel technology

#18 ·

dnice wrote:

Joe doesnt use kerosene. I don't know where your getting that info from.

Please snt me right youtube video or we are talking of nothing..

Air as fuel technology

#17 ·

dnice wrote:

Just check out Joe booker on YouTube. He explains how you can run n engine on air. The Germans did this to their military vehicles. It's all about frequency. If you change to Race fuel your car won't run too well until you adjust the timing (frequency) or if you have spark and your getting fuel to your engine but the timing is off, it will run horribly if at all. So it all comes down to the proper frequency for each fuel including air. How to create this frequency is a whole other story
Sorry but Joe engine use kerosene like and diesel transforming that in an autoignition engine. Here we are talking of make plasma from air and ionized really the oxygen and nitrogen using very lowerr amount of fuel just as igniter.

Air as fuel technology

#15 ·

From the january 2014 the new air plasma technology is utilized on some pellet stoves. This technology save more pellet and decrease a lot the CO and NOx present into the exaust gas, an 13Kw stove that normally consume at max power 3.3Kg/h with new plasma burner consume 700gr/hour increasing a lot the thermal efficency.

Air as fuel technology

#14 ·

MrRonsen wrote:

Hello,

maybe there is re-discovery...
keep in mind:

FLOX flammeless burning


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOX less information than in german version of wikipedia pages
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOX-Verfahren german only

keep in mind, dont fool with:
holzvergasung / wood gasification ... not only suitable for wood
Hello,
Absolutely not, Flox is an flameless tecnology!! Here we are talking of chemical plasma.. of course flame is every plasma but only oxygen interact with the fuel.. this technology instead is able to burn not only oxygen but also nitrogen. Here we are in presence of an high calorific bluish flame..

Air as fuel technology

#12 ·

mareazzurroo wrote:

ciao Alessandro in un'altro sito hai scritto:
SORRY BUT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALSO AS FINAL REACTION..

HOWEVER I DON'T USE ETANOL OR METHANOL INSIDE THE REACTOR JUST FEW GRAMS OF PELLET!!

PLEASE COME TO THE EVENT HERE IN FLORENCE AND YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR EYES THE AIR TRANSFORMED IN AN BLUE PLASMA FLAME TO HIGH TEMPERATURE!!

I HOPE FROM VIDEO CAN BE VISIBLE THAT ISN'T AN NORMAL COMBUSTION FLAME ..

questo significa che oltre a trasformare azoto bruci anche pellets il circuito è chiuso o hai un loop dove reimmetti i gas parzialmente combusti nel tuo reattore plasmatico?
The process is a chain reaction to work but there are variables to be respected , the most ' important' depending on the temperature and the catalyst used .
I 've used as fuel wood pellets but you can use any fuel or vegetable oil present on the market. The fuel consumption is very limited when it reaches the correct reaction and that confirm fully the Andreev theory on the autothermia. For two years I am studying the process and only a few months ago I figured out how it really works . This is because our scientific knowledge is wrong and our mind does not provide solutions which we consider impossible. Well, the air that surrounds us can really burn and the reaction takes place each time. Obviously in the reaction also interacts nitrogen as the active gas and not as inert gas such as we are accustomed to consider getting high temperatures.
I can say with absolute certainty that this reaction was the cause of the cases occurred in the past related to human combustion .


Il processo e' una reazione a catena ma per funzionare ci sono delle variabili da rispettare, la piu' importante e' la temperatura e la seconda il catalizzatore usato.
Come combustibile ho ho usato pellet di legno ma e' possibile usare qualsiasi combustibile e/o olio vegetale presente sul mercato. Il consumo del combustibile e' veramente limitato se viene raggiunta la reazione corretta e questo conferma pienamente la teoria di Andreev sull'autothermia. Sono due anni che sto studiando il processo e solamente da pochi mesi ho capito come esso funzioni realmente. Questo perche' la nostra preparazione scientifica e' sbagliata e la nostra mente non contempla soluzioni che consideriamo impossibili. Ebbene l'aria che ci circonda puo' veramente bruciare e la reazione avviene ogni volta. Ovviamente nella reazione interagisce anche l'azoto come gas attivo e non come gas inerte come siamo abituati a considerarlo ottenendo alte temperature.
Posso asserire con assoluta certezza che questa reazione e' stata la causa scatenante dei casi avvenuti in passato relativi alla combustione umana.

Air as fuel technology

#10 ·

Cary Karen wrote:

Fuel technology is considered as a renewable energy, this kind of technology are made from carbon and this kind of technology are process of carbon for suitable energy.
Air as fuel surely is the future of world. during my tests I have found an fantastic discovery.. this special plasma is able to make new fuel molecules again ..

Air as fuel technology

#9 ·

Faraday88 wrote:

I knew Aaron would love this thread as this is very close to his persuing on Nitrogen of air as Fuel....what say Aaron???
Rgds,
Faraday88.
Because is the near future..

Air as fuel technology

#8 ·

freefuelnow wrote:

Alessandro,
Are you "ionizing air into plasma" with no electrical input? Just the use of a magnetic field and a catalyst? As stated in the papers on D.H Baziev theory?
Sorry for delay of reply.. No electrical input is needed.. air can burn like gas and with an very calorific flame. The theory of Baziev is proved. Actually I'm working to increase the performances of plasma. In my actual model I use just catalyst without magnetic field becuase no need.

Stan Meyer - The Nitrogen Key

#4 ·

bluestix wrote:

I thought it was pretty obvious that when he said 'non-combustible gases' he meant Nitrogen (Air). It wouldn't be reasonable or cost effective to use any other gas because you would have to buy tanks of it.

A lot of the simple points that Stan made clearly seem to be misunderstood or ignored by most of the people studying his work so I guess this is no exception.
These patents are initial approach of Meyer to understand a new way for obtain more thermal energy.
The explaination of combustion is wrong because the engine is in fact an mechanical atomic reactor..
When reaction is started you obtain as result an change of state of molecules that you sent inside thanks to the compression.
You start the combustion mixing the fuel (CxxHxx molecule) with air (oxygen/nitrogen) obtaining COx and NOx as exaust gas.
The main problem is that the energy produced from compression does not have enough power for dissociated the nitrogen molecules, as result you have inert gas into the exaust gas.
You need to understand that combustions reactions have different levels:

1) humans for live need just air in molecular state
2) engine suck air and split just oxygen molecules into atoms
3) air as fuel tech split all air into atoms

We are born in petrol era and we know that your car for run need gasoline or diesel.
At today an endothermic engine use the oxygen, present in air, just as the oxydant of fuel, this explaination is correct in part because the process of combustion isn't understand completely..
Returning to Stan Meyer.. probably during some tests has found that air have enough power and the initial researchs using exaust gas (nitrogen and water vapour) with watergas are changed ionizing the air and mixing with watergas.
But Stan Meyer don't has clear the reaction because sometimes works and sometimes not.
From that reason Stan have the idea to wfc injector, an all in one device. Good intuition but with more electrical and mechanical problems.
After we know all that Stan is died and this technology is was lost..
In this year 2013 an italian team has found the right way for transform air into fuel because this is the year of energy revolution for the benefit for all peoples.