Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)
Started by Buddhafollower · · 13 posts · last reply 23 May 2019
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Good day,
I have a simple question: will a special tin scissors be able to cut through a 1mm thick 316L grade stainless steel? Or i will be wasting my time and money?
I have a 27cm scissors made in Great Britain in Shefield and another made in Germany, 30cm long named Gussstahl Versthal.
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I'am surprised no one answered my message yet. -
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He He He He.... the name of the tool is ''tin snips''. I learned something new -
#4 ·
That is heavy duty material. I doubt it.Buddhafollower wrote:
Good day,
I have a simple question: will a special tin scissors be able to cut through a 1mm thick 316L grade stainless steel?
You may be able to find heavy tin snips used by sheet metal workers in the shipbuilding industry. You could ask Cammell Laird what they use.
Also, in a Bob Boyce situation, your panels will need to be ultra flat. Tin snips may not give the right finish. A grinder might do it. -
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Yup, i ended up cutting the tin with an angle grinder. It is much, much easier this way. The tin snips i mentioned above did almost nothing but cut like 2cm into the metal. They are useless.
Thank you for your reply
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#6 ·
You mentioned Mr.Boyce's 101 plate project. Well, when it comes to the actual reactor of this great man, it is my own opinion at least, that i should cut the plates almost 16cm in length and also 16cm tall and i should use rubber gaskets shaped like a U to distance the plates and also seal them so no water will escape between plates because if that happens it will compromise the reactor. Then press them well with some sort of springs maybe and manufacture the containment vessel out of plexi glass. 1.5cm thick plexi glass. I find this method much better than making a nick in the plexi glass every 3mm. Why do this when you ne ver know if it'll work when you can simply use 3mm thick U shaped gaskets?? -
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#8 ·
I have this document printed in my collection/library. What's your point?
I read it and i don't like Mr.Boyce's method. Simply i don't like that we have to cut those grooves in the plexi glass. It is time consuming and requires skill and mastery. If you like it you do it. I will never adhere to the concept. For me it is very simple: use U shaped gaskets and then press the whole assembly together from the sides. Best and easiest method. -
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Gaskets compress as bolts tighten and plate spacing must be witin
1/5 of a thousandth or .5, that is less than 1 thousandths.
Plastic does not compress and stays where you put it. This is why
people with a PWM3G never get good results. .5
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#10 ·
As far as i know the spacing between the plates is 3mm and water mustn't communicate between plates.
0.5 of what exactly? I really don't get it.
Mr.Boyce used 1,3mm thick 316L tin. -
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Buddhafollower wrote:
As far as i know the spacing between the plates is 3mm and water mustn't communicate between plates.
0.5 of what exactly? I really don't get it.
Mr.Boyce used 1,3mm thick 316L tin.
Yes that is correct 3mm. Each plate spacing on all four corners of each
plate must be exactly the same for every single plate. If one corner is 3.2mm
and the other corner of the plate is 3.11mm and the third corner is 2.95mm
and all 100 plates have all different numbers you will not find resonance
for all of the plates together. Resonance will be found but only in pockets.
3 plates here and 5 plates there while nothing happens with the other
90 plates. Tolerances must be kept THE SAME THE SAME within .5 or half a thousandths.
Getting a perfect box requires a low expansion and contraction type
material that does not change with the tightening of bolts. Cells using
long threaded rods to hold 50-100 plates together will not compress
evenly within .5 of a thousands. Gaskets themselves are not that accurate
in general.
There are reasons why the builder uses plastic that has been grooved.
And now you know. Ed Holdgate died but when he was alive you could
get such a box for $2500 with the ss plates included along with the water
injection manifold.
The other way to properly succeed at building these boxes is with
epoxy resins poured over perfectly spaced plates. Like this
He has resonance and runs a motor of his car. Bob told me 10 years
ago that he needed 300 watts to run it. Here it is.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h2i3ozegPM[/VIDEO]
Here is his production without a PWM3G still getting 200% which by
scientific rules is impossible. If you try to prove it you will be called
names
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y07Tt-3JjE[/VIDEO]
My gas production after more than 500 hours of conditioning! It now
does 14.5 liters per minute at 185V and 5.2A (962W total input power). -
#12 ·
Faraday watt hrs per liter
constant + or - 2.35 watt hrs per Liter or 2.35wh/L
or
962/2.35= 409LPH / 60 = 6.8 lpm
This is what Faraday said you would get for HHO gas per hour for
that amount of input power. Yet he is getting over double that on
straight electricity, no circuits.
And if your box won't do that don't bother adding a circuit either
Circuits only work when mechanical tolerances are strictly followed.
You were warned, don't cry if it fails.
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#13 ·
I understand. Thank you for sharing.
I liked both videos. Awesome stuff right there. REAL science!
With my angle grinder i will never be able to cut such precise plates, i'll have to buy myself a nice table to mount this tool on to.
Since Mr.Boyce's cell uses water with a catalyst (i think), the best thing to do is to NOT pour epoxy resin to secure the plates in position. You will have to take them out from time to time and furbish them.
I still consider gaskets the best choice. I'll go with gaskets.
Actually i don't think it is good at all to secure them with epoxy.........
Maybe some deposits of minerals will form on thye plates and we'll need to clean them with sand paper....
I love your accent
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