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Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#9 ·

I understand, like and very much appreciate Stanley Meyer's designs of HHO reactors. He was a bright man who had done a lot of research in the field, wanting to improve the whole world. He really had love for God's creation in general, not just for the ones created in God's own image. There are though several problems concerning his designs. The most important thing i would like to say right now is that i will use the 9XB generator. A truly concerning issue with his design is the power stage of the installation. It can consist of a MOSFET, a BJT or a SCR. All of them mounted on heat sinks and being power elements. In my own humble opinion, using power electronics is 'forcing your will upon God's creation'. We have been forcing God to do our way all along and this is why we have failed so many times or simply the results have been at times quite disappointing. Many able men of Science have been disappointed by their own creations at times, all because of this mistake. We have too big egos. Our egos take too much of our minds. We are trying to impose our will upon God and the answer that we get is failure or at best a partial or modest success. This is the situation with the dry HHO reactor, a partial success. It consumes a lot of power and in order for it to work well, previous experimentation has shown that it has to be supplied in low current but as high a pressure as practicable. Still the power will be big. It will draw a lot of current and the amount of gas won't be enough so that when supplied to an engine, the system to be able to achieve self sufficiency. For us to find the True Way of The Heavens of our Maker we have to think clearly not let our egos have the best of us. Forcing Nature isn't going to help. I came across certain reactor designs that were indeed a pleasure to watch. You could watch them performing for hours and feel like you were at a movie. Such installations may have 9 water cells completely covered by water in a transparent tank or tube. The capacitors may be tubular in shape and in design will be one within the other. The outer plates may be all tied together while the inner ones will each be connected to the drain of a power element such as a MOSFET. This power element is naturally mounted on a heat sink. There will be a total of nine inner plates each connected to a power element, each power element bolted to it's heat sink. Then the outer plates being all but tied together will serve as the common electrode for the positive potential of the power supply. Water will simply conduct between the two electrodes and energy will reach the power element which in turn may dissipate heat. Such a design can be further improved by the addition of a certain transformer with a ferrite core which will generate a potential of more than a thousand volts. Research has shown this to be an improvement in the direction of a free energy device. Maybe i will receive a bit of credit for my idea when i say that it may not pose a severe difficulty for the reactor to be in the form of a dry one with the exceptions that the gaskets should be rather short towards the center and maybe no more than 2 mm thin and the plates be electrically insulated from each other so water may not be able to touch and conduct between them. This i consider to be of great importance. Then a higher voltage i believe will have an even greater effect, when it is borne in mind that it is actually a high pressure with a high frequency and a square wave such as provided by the 9XB of Mr.Stanley Meyer. I in my humble education would also like to add that whenever there is heat dissipation, there is not much harmony. Harmony is the Golden Key in Electrical Engineering. Yow will see that a simple circuit with a diac and triac absorbs so very little power that it is unrecognizable. That is Harmony right there. The circuit does well, not to say it can't be done even better, but still a great amount of power is being controlled harmoniously* by a small component. Truly worthy to be noted down.

Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#8 ·

Well, we have this circuit 9XB. It has four ranges: 3Hz to 13Hz; 13Hz to 120Hz; 120Hz to 1200Hz; 1200Hz to 12000Hz. All square waves. This is your starting point. This is the signal generator Mr. Meyer used. Basically from then on it's all a matter of resonance. Bringing the system at a point of resonance. I'am not sure we need power electronics such as high power thyristors and high voltages. I'am not sure about that. All those things, high power components, high to very high voltages etc. are quite good at best but in a way you still are forcing water to do what you want. Harmony is the Master Key. Do not forget there is no such thing as chaos in the Universe. All is governed by Laws. Order out of chaos.

I sincerely hope and pray to Allah that such a thing will never be needed to power a car on HHO.

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Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#4 ·

I have done some measurements with the oscilloscope, a Voltcraft 2040.
These are the results:
1) 3Hz-13Hz: (SN74F04N, pin no.1): 3Hz: 8Vpp| 13Hz: approx. 5.2Vpp|
2) 13Hz- 120Hz: (same): 13Hz: 5.2Vpp| 120Hz: 4Vpp|
3) 120Hz-1200Hz: (same): 120Hz: 4Vpp| 1200Hz: 4Vpp|
4) 1200Hz-12.000Hz: (same): 1200Hz: 4.4Vpp| 12.000Hz: 4.4Vpp||

Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#3 ·

I solved the problem. I double checked the schematic and it turned out that my pcb was also missing the connection from pin 3 of NE555 to pin 1 of the first SN74LS90N. Next time i have to be careful where i get my gerber files from. I spent almost a day thinking what may be wrong with this.

Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#2 ·

No, i was wrong. It actually generates square waves but they are on a level of tens of millivolts. I have no idea if Mr. Stanley Meyer wanted the circuit to work like this.

Stanley Meyer's 9XB

#1 ·

Good day,
I tested the 9XB module with the following IC: NE555, 3*SN74LS90N and SN74F04N.
In the appropriate position of the commutator i can see with the oscilloscope a signal on the pin nr.1 of SN74F04N. The NE555 works. And i also have output at pin 12 of SN74F04N coming from this NE555. In all other positions of the commutator the LED is turned off and there is no signal at SN74F04N nor on the pins of the SN74LS90N. None of them have signal on the pin no.12. Any idea why?
Note how i'am holding the IC in my hand. The pins seem a bit oxidized. That's how i bought them.
Also i had to modify the pcb abit by drilling a small hole in it and fixing the 1k resistor from the pin 7 of NE555 to pins 2 and 6 and then connecting a 10nF capacitor to ground.
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Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)

#13 ·

I understand. Thank you for sharing.
I liked both videos. Awesome stuff right there. REAL science!
With my angle grinder i will never be able to cut such precise plates, i'll have to buy myself a nice table to mount this tool on to.
Since Mr.Boyce's cell uses water with a catalyst (i think), the best thing to do is to NOT pour epoxy resin to secure the plates in position. You will have to take them out from time to time and furbish them.
I still consider gaskets the best choice. I'll go with gaskets.


Actually i don't think it is good at all to secure them with epoxy.........
Maybe some deposits of minerals will form on thye plates and we'll need to clean them with sand paper....

I love your accent

Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)

#10 ·

As far as i know the spacing between the plates is 3mm and water mustn't communicate between plates.
0.5 of what exactly? I really don't get it.
Mr.Boyce used 1,3mm thick 316L tin.

Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)

#8 ·

I have this document printed in my collection/library. What's your point?
I read it and i don't like Mr.Boyce's method. Simply i don't like that we have to cut those grooves in the plexi glass. It is time consuming and requires skill and mastery. If you like it you do it. I will never adhere to the concept. For me it is very simple: use U shaped gaskets and then press the whole assembly together from the sides. Best and easiest method.

Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)

#6 ·

You mentioned Mr.Boyce's 101 plate project. Well, when it comes to the actual reactor of this great man, it is my own opinion at least, that i should cut the plates almost 16cm in length and also 16cm tall and i should use rubber gaskets shaped like a U to distance the plates and also seal them so no water will escape between plates because if that happens it will compromise the reactor. Then press them well with some sort of springs maybe and manufacture the containment vessel out of plexi glass. 1.5cm thick plexi glass. I find this method much better than making a nick in the plexi glass every 3mm. Why do this when you ne ver know if it'll work when you can simply use 3mm thick U shaped gaskets??

Hydroxyl cell (HHO gas)

#5 ·

Yup, i ended up cutting the tin with an angle grinder. It is much, much easier this way. The tin snips i mentioned above did almost nothing but cut like 2cm into the metal. They are useless.
Thank you for your reply

Bob Boyce HHO

#13 ·

Here it says:

-26Materials
The most popular material.It is a cost effective general purpose material that is useful in a wide variety of power conversion and line filter applications.
-52Materials
The material has lower core loss at high frequency and the same permeability as the -26 Material.It is very popular for high frequency choke designs.

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I strongly believe these two cores are interchangeable. I will buy the first one as the -52 isn't available in my country.

Thank you again for your great kindness!!
With your permission i would like to post these files which you gave me, on other sites such as Yahoo and YouTube. Only with your permission.

Bob Boyce HHO

#12 ·

Will there be any serious problem if i use T650-26 instead of T650-52?
Please tell me.

Bob Boyce HHO

#11 ·

You are much too kind, my good sir.

Say what will the issue be if instead of the material T650-52 i use what i can find in my country, T650-26?
Because as far as i can remember this one is the replacement for the 650-52. Am i right?
I think they have identical constructive and electrical properties except the fact that T650-26 cannot go as high in frequency as the T650-52.

Bob Boyce HHO

#7 ·

WOW!!!! That is so good
So this circuit itself is designed by Mr.Boyce?

Thank you very much for your kindness!

Bob Boyce HHO

#5 ·

Ok, i will ask them for the circuit diagram.
One question i have, the diode in the above circuit isn't connected and it would appear that there is nowhere to connect it to. It is a special kind of diode, i don't think it's available in my country... Where do i connect it?

Bob Boyce HHO

#3 ·

Thank you very much!
The post remains open though. If someone has what i asked for please, you know what to do.

Thank you,

Bob Boyce HHO

#1 ·

Good day,
Can anyone send me the gerber files of Mr.Bob Boyce? The PWM3G files which i suppose they are the gerber files so i can print them on a PCB. Does anyone have them? On ''hydroxy'' group on Yahoo, apparently nobody has them... I wonder how can that be? Mr.Boyce shared them on the ''Working WaterCars'' group on Yahoo, publicly. There is a document on google called ''pwm_1.pdf'' in which this is stated:

''This Group ( http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/WorkingWatercar/ ) has been given permission most graciously, by Mr.Boyce to present a compilation of his project so that it may perhaps be more easily understood and replicated by the general public.''