Commercial Free Energy Devices

#1 · 29 Oct 2011

Are there devices that extract energy from the environment in an unconventional way available to buy on the market?

I remember seeing a 4000$ 1kW magenetic generator on ebay, that was able to keep a battery bank charged at all time.

There are all kinds of dry-cell HHO generator on sale, though most if not all are COP < 1, even if they DO produce a fuel economy.

What happened to to Minato motor in Japan? It is sais to produce 5 times more shaft power than electrical input, and was sold as "energy efficient". Very clever

Did Rosemary Ansly COP 17 inductive heater ever make it to the market?
I'd like to buy one of these, cause it's so cold here in Canada.

I'm sure there are some folks selling REAL FE devices under the radar.
I'd like to know if you guys know any of them.

Thanks

mbrownn

#2 · 30 Oct 2011

The most common and reasonably priced free energy device on the market is an air conditioning unit but don't use it to cool, use it to heat. COP's of 6 to 10 are common, that means you put 1kw of electricity in and get 6 to 10 kw of heat out. very good in the cold months.

The problem is the cold side, there must be sufficient heat there to stop it getting too cold and freezing up as that would insulate the evaporator. Also as the temperature gradient increases the COP drops.

wrtner

#3 · 30 Oct 2011

mbrownn wrote:
The most common and reasonably priced free energy device on the market is an air conditioning unit but don't use it to cool, use it to heat. COP's of 6 to 10 are common, that means you put 1kw of electricity in and get 6 to 10 kw of heat out. very good in the cold months.

The problem is the cold side, there must be sufficient heat there to stop it getting too cold and freezing up as that would insulate the evaporator. Also as the temperature gradient increases the COP drops.

This heat pump technology is neat, but you need that "heat sink". A runnning
river or stream is good. Or an underground tank of water which could be
heated up over the summer (with black water pipes on the roof and then used
in the winter. Some people bury tubes in the ground.

mbrownn

#4 · 30 Oct 2011

That's how its done

Burned_NE2

#5 · 31 Oct 2011

mbrownn wrote:
That's how its done

Hi mbrownn I'm really interested in knowing more about this as I'm still unclear on how you can use an A/C (Air conditioning) unit operating in reverse in the winter time?

In other words...

Are you saying to operate a window mounted A/C in the usual summer mode to cool your house has a reverse effect of heating your home in winter?

This may seem like a stupid question but I'm really confused as from what I've been reading on heat pumps they require a reversible pump to make heat instead of cold.

So how does a normal A/C create heat if it's not reversible?

Thanks,
Paul

ashtweth

#6 · 1 Nov 2011

Hi ALL

Best ones we have been able to find
Summary of commercial devices

This one has our attention (as its homepower not EBM, hidro or Ecat etc)
bottom of
Summary of commercial devices

(needs validation)
DEMONSTRATION CONVERTER 5kW - YouTube

Ash

mbrownn

#7 · 1 Nov 2011

Burned_NE2 wrote:
Hi mbrownn I'm really interested in knowing more about this as I'm still unclear on how you can use an A/C (Air conditioning) unit operating in reverse in the winter time?

In other words...

Are you saying to operate a window mounted A/C in the usual summer mode to cool your house has a reverse effect of heating your home in winter?

This may seem like a stupid question but I'm really confused as from what I've been reading on heat pumps they require a reversible pump to make heat instead of cold.

So how does a normal A/C create heat if it's not reversible?

Thanks,
Paul

The simplest way is to place the unit the wrong way round, so that the controls are outside, not very practical though. I think you would be surprised by the heat produced.