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[0:00] Alright, well as most of you know, my name is Max, Max Miller of course, and I'd like [0:11] to welcome everybody here. [0:13] Everybody's phone is going to be beeping. [0:19] So I guess we'll get into this, see how I do. [0:25] So this is what I posted on my forum. [0:28] If you go to the forum you can read this. [0:33] And what I talk about is how stands circuitry functions. [0:41] We have a replicated stands box over here. [0:47] So you have the basic circuitry in the box, and this is what that circuitry does, and [0:54] it's pretty much the circuits that he did through all of his experiments. [0:59] TPL. [1:01] TPL. [1:03] TPL. [1:05] Transistor, transistor, watching. [1:09] Transistor, transistor. [1:11] 1970s. [1:13] Now the new stuff is HCC mode or 4C mode. [1:17] 1970s technology. [1:19] LS. [1:21] 7.4 series LS. [1:25] It's all 5.55 timer based, which is made back in the 70s. [1:31] He used the TS 5.55, which I found not so reliable. [1:39] Could be because mine was Chinese. [1:41] You can get a CMOS version out of its low power. [1:45] I think that was a lot better because I have a little Geiger counter that runs on a 5.55, [1:49] and I put one of these new 5.55 chips in CMOS and put down a couple of milliamps. [1:57] Yeah, I use any 5.55. [2:01] I believe that was like a military grade originally. [2:03] Signetics I think was the original manufacturer. [2:07] I take mine up to 600 kilohertz. [2:13] I think they're good up to like 500 megahertz. [2:17] It could be. [2:19] But I took the circuit. [2:21] 500 kilohertz. [2:23] Somewhere in there. [2:25] I think mine gives up to 600. [2:27] But anyway, it's a 1970s chips. [2:31] And the 7404 is an invert. [2:37] And the 7490 is a decade counter. [2:39] What else? That's an ox way to get the square wave. [2:41] And you just put a capacitor in and we put it on it. [2:45] And that determines your pulse width. [2:47] And you have a pulse width and then you have the frequency. [2:51] Yeah, there's multiple ways to do the same thing to make the square wave. [2:59] You can use a Schmitt trigger logic. [3:01] Yeah, the 7414 has a Schmitt trigger in it as well, which you can replace the 7404. [3:07] What a Schmitt trigger does is when a signal goes up or down, it's bouncing. [3:14] And the input that is driving the output will do this and you don't want that. [3:20] So you put a Schmitt trigger on there and it gives it a hurricane. [3:24] So if your signal is bouncing up and down, the output is more likely to all of a sudden change and not go back to the other state. [3:33] So basically 1970s technology, he did everything with it and I'll go over how I see it functions. [3:44] So this is the oscilloscope, of course. [3:52] This is the original signal in from the 555 timer. [3:58] And then when it loads the primary, the primary is an inductor as well, so it actually elongates the pulse. [4:08] So as it functions into the transformer that he made, you'll get a ringing which adds steps to the pulse. [4:20] So you have the original pulse, which gets elongated in the primary. [4:26] And then across the water you end up with a ringing effect, which adds the multiple steps. [4:40] And again, this is around 10 kilohertz and then this is across the primary. [4:50] If you've never read an oscilloscope, you'll have what's called a reference. [4:57] This is your reference for the signal. [4:59] So this is basically zero and this is just where I didn't tune it correctly. [5:05] So it's not quite at zero. [5:06] It's not really a negative. [5:08] Right. [5:14] Time and space. [5:16] Space would be the width. [5:19] And time would be... [5:22] You have time and you have this space. [5:25] So basically if you made a signal that's a pulse going through space, it's time and space. [5:33] And that's what we want to see. [5:36] And then this is a magnetic field meter, which is basically it's just a coil wire. [5:48] And you put that where the oscilloscope probe would go. [5:51] And so when the magnetic field hits that coil wire, then it shows it on the oscilloscope. [6:01] You're saying gauss, it reads in gauss, is that what you were going to say? [6:06] Yeah. [6:08] Yeah, it's... [6:10] There's all kinds of angles to that. [6:14] You really can't go by the... [6:21] This dimension really doesn't mean anything. [6:24] It would depend on how close it was to the actual device. [6:27] So if you're back here, it's going to be small. [6:30] And if you're right up next to it, it's going to be bigger. [6:40] And that's just the close up of it. [6:42] So in the magnetic pickup, you're going to see where it rings across the primary and the secondary. [6:50] So we have a resonance that you can take the power off and just still just sit there and ring like a bell. [6:57] Yeah, basically it's a mechanical resonance like a pendulum. [7:02] When you pull the pendulum back and then it's going to sway back and forth. [7:07] And this is basically resonance in the ferrite core that you see on the pickup. [7:15] So does your pickup have ferrite core in it too or is it just a coil? [7:19] It's a... I'm pretty sure it would have to have a core or something going in it. [7:24] I bought it. I couldn't really tell you what's in it. [7:28] So could you use a regular old timing sensor coil that's a lot of the newer engines have? [7:38] It's probably a knock sensor. Probably a knock sensor off of a coil. [7:45] I just took... I made another one that's just a coil wire around the piece of weld and run. [7:52] I took one from an old Saturn that I don't use. [7:57] If probably a hall effect sensor would work, some of the older cars would have had a hall effect sensor. [8:05] Where you're... [8:13] Yeah, I can't remember everything. [8:16] You have the little star. What's the little star called? [8:20] In the distributor. [8:23] You have the rotor and under it you have a... [8:28] After the points. [8:32] The pickup has a hall effect sensor and then you have a little star that spins around that triggers the hall effect. [8:40] I don't think it's the rotor or something else. [8:43] I don't remember them. Anyway. [8:47] So, again your reference ground for the red. [8:54] This is the original pulse and then this is across the primary. [8:59] So this is across the water. [9:02] So... [9:04] Okay, so across the water, what are you using for the probe there? [9:08] This is connected to the cell itself to the positive and negative. [9:13] Direct into the scope. [9:15] Yes. The scope is a... [9:17] The voltage divider probe. [9:19] No. The scope is a isolated ground on each channel. [9:25] And it's capable of how many volts? [9:29] Depends on your probe. You could go up to 5,000 volts. [9:33] You could go up to 30,000 volts. It depends on your probe. [9:36] It's not going very high. The normal scope is 50 volts. [9:41] The full scale. [9:44] You got 5 volts per division. You got 10 divisions. [9:47] Yeah, it'll... [9:49] You can set the divisions. [9:52] There's all kinds of division settings. [9:54] Normally, your default scope is going to be like 5 volts per division. [10:00] Relax. [10:01] Well, you can change the setting. [10:04] You can read 5 volts. You can make 5 volts divisions or... [10:07] For revision, which means you've got like 10 times 5 is 50 volts per scale. [10:14] Is that what we're to believe you're representing there? [10:17] This is actual voltage read by the oscilloscope. [10:20] You just change the setting in the oscilloscope. [10:24] All your newer oscilloscopes have different settings on them, aren't they? [10:30] Yeah, it might be 0.5 or 1. [10:32] Yeah. [10:33] So you're saying this is 1,000 volts? [10:35] 832 volts. [10:40] There's no probe. [10:42] With the probe connected. [10:44] That's what I was getting to. [10:46] Not in the air, beside it, with the probe connected. [10:50] Right. [10:51] What kind of probe? [10:53] It's a 5,000 volt probe. [10:56] So you set the oscilloscope to that probe. [11:01] You have a times 10 or times 100, times 1,000 on the probe. [11:06] You just tell the oscilloscope what probe you have. [11:09] So you're using a times 100 probe? [11:11] It sounds right. [11:14] I can't remember everything. [11:17] I'm familiar with the Meier circuit. [11:19] I never saw a pickup coil where it was used for feedback into the circuit to modify the... [11:31] Maybe the frequency of the whip. [11:32] The flat core had a feedback coil on it. [11:35] I have a picture. We'll get to that. [11:38] Yeah, I'll show you. [11:41] As your water temperature and the distance between the electrodes and everything, [11:47] that changes all the resonance. [11:49] Everything, so you've got to have an active circuit that like fades like a loop. [11:53] Yeah. [11:54] We'll get into that, but no, you don't have to. [11:57] If you were driving down the road, you would probably need a phase locked loop or some fancier stuff. [12:04] But if you're just tuning it by hand, all you need is a basic timer circuit. [12:10] You know, if you lose your bubble, well, yeah, it went away. [12:15] I need to figure out what I did. [12:16] Maybe your water got hot. [12:18] Maybe you just irradiated yourself. [12:23] Yeah. [12:29] Again, this is without the other poles. [12:36] This is zooming in just another shot of another experiment. [12:43] So this would be 5,000... [12:47] 5.7 kilohertz, almost 6 kilohertz. [12:54] And then if you look, this is the off time, so it continues to ring. [13:00] Yeah, that's called a free induction decay. [13:03] Okay. [13:05] Take your word for that one. [13:16] So again, this is your zero reference. [13:19] And this is the magnetic pickup while this is the previous screen. [13:33] Yeah, it depends on your probe. [13:37] You have to watch the older oscilloscopes were just all shared a common ground. [13:42] And that's really going to mess with your readings. [13:46] In order to do this correctly, you have to have isolated grounds. [13:52] Once you add the ground, then you're adding something you don't want. [14:06] Well... [14:15] I put things together, you know. [14:17] Now you're for zisters and knock down the voltage so I don't pull up my... [14:24] What's that? [14:33] Unicorn smoke. [14:34] You have spark, hydrogen in the middle, there's unicorn smoke. [14:41] Give up the ghost. [14:45] Anytime you have the handmade components and then you lose all... [14:51] You can't go to somebody and say, hey, look what I did because they're going to say, yeah, you got a cobbled up mess. [14:57] Doesn't matter how good it looks, they're going to say, yeah, you cheated something's up. [15:01] See what I'm saying? [15:05] Yes. [15:08] Yes. [15:10] So... [15:15] Unless you're going to... [15:19] So this is just... [15:20] I'm trying to explain, everybody tries to tell me they have this or this. [15:26] And on the oscilloscope, you have a reference ground and you would have negative and positive. [15:31] And this is just my version of what a sine wave basically would look like. [15:37] Ideally, a sine wave would be perfect at 360 degrees. [15:42] So if... [15:46] Yeah, if you have positive and negative and you have a reference ground, then you have a sine wave. [15:56] Yeah. [16:02] Right. [16:03] So... [16:09] Say again. [16:12] So... [16:15] Well, everything has to be tuned correctly. [16:18] You can't just... [16:20] You can't build a circuit and then say, hey, let's go engineers by this because with every circuit you have stray capacitance, inductance, and that all feeds into your end result. [16:35] So if you didn't tune, would you get bigger fiking on the line there? [16:40] I've had to go to great lengths to get all of the noise out of this to make everything clean. [16:48] Okay. [16:49] Once you have noise, you have all kinds of harmonics and resonances that you don't need and you don't want to see. [16:59] A lot of people will see noise or resonance and they'll say, oh, I went to college. I did it. I'm done. [17:09] Yeah. [17:10] There's... [17:11] The theory in real life is true. [17:13] I bring this up because Frank's going to be laughing, but... [17:19] There's a reverberation in your circuitry called motor boating. Are you familiar with that term? [17:27] Yeah. [17:28] So if your stuff's not made correctly, you have a feedback and then it oscillates what you're working on and it oscillates your circuit and it creates harmonics that jump up and down and... [17:43] Oh, it's magic! [17:45] No, it's a motor boat resonance in your circuitry. [17:49] So if you see something that you think is exciting or you don't know what it is, it could be you just have stray reverberations. [18:01] So you have to tune your circuit correctly. [18:05] Usually if you just look it up on Google, you can find somebody that's had a similar problem in something. [18:12] That's what I do a lot, Google. [18:15] Google is your friend. [18:20] And then this is me explaining what Stan did. [18:24] He called it... [18:25] Now some people say it's not correct terminology, but 50% is on, 50% is off. [18:33] So he called it a 50% duty cycle, which makes sense for me. [18:37] It would actually be mark in space, is that correct? [18:41] That's another word, Bart. [18:43] I think both terms are useful. [18:46] Well, smart people have told me that this isn't correct, but it makes sense. [18:52] You have 50% on, 50% off. [18:54] Sounds like a 50% duty cycle to me. [18:57] Another word, Bart, is all space is modulation. [19:00] Marking space is multilaytion. [19:01] Marking space is multilaytion. [19:03] So you can modify the pulse, not to be 10% or whatever. [19:08] He didn't. Stan said he didn't. He said 50% duty cycle. [19:12] Well, fine. The exogenous people are saying they got a 10 to 1 mark in space. [19:17] Could be. [19:18] My frequency... [19:19] So that's like 90% duty. [19:21] Yeah, my frequency generator... [19:23] 90%? [19:24] 10 is the beginning of the marked space. It's 10 on, 1 off. [19:30] So the frequency generator that I use is actually completely adjustable. [19:36] Up to 600 kilohertz, and then I can adjust that mark in space to anything I want. [19:43] To pretty much nothing. [19:45] Up to 99.9% if I want to. [19:49] And this is what Stan said he used. [19:54] And you'll see the box back there. That's exactly what it comes out to. [20:00] All of his circuitry shows that. [20:03] Actually, an ad for those who don't want to build their own equipment. [20:09] There's a signal generator from Coolertron, which you can buy on... [20:16] That's with a K, K-O-O-L-E-R-T-R-O-N, on Amazon. [20:22] Which is a really cute little digital synthesis signal generator. [20:30] Got two outputs on it, goes up to like 20 volts. [20:34] And it is completely programmable, 0-100%. [20:41] Actually, I can go to Google Play Store, and I can download an app to my phone [20:46] and do this exact same thing with my phone. [20:49] And I can jack in stereo output, or I can use Bluetooth and do the same thing with my phone. [20:57] It even has a dial. [20:59] You can buy a frequency, and you don't have a lot of... [21:02] You can buy us the DC voltage on it. [21:06] The first other thing to say... [21:08] You can do that with your driver. [21:11] You just make the signal at 5 volts, and then run that into your driver, [21:17] and then you can buy us your driver, you can put a knob on your driver and buy us it. [21:21] That's what you want. [21:22] You can actually just use a stereo amplifier. [21:28] Which is...what do you think of that? [21:31] Just download the app to your phone, put it into a stereo amplifier. [21:37] I did that one. [21:40] Yeah. Chris didn't make it. [21:42] Chris, he actually uses a 2-Vamp. [21:46] So the 2-Vamp is rather curious. [21:48] You have a field, and then you can buy us the output by putting voltage to the field. [21:55] 2-Vamp first. [21:57] The book would be a lot more forgiving, transient, high voltage stuff. [22:01] You know, really? [22:02] Semiconductor. [22:04] I don't know about that, but I... [22:06] It's true. It's very true. [22:09] I've done a lot of this. [22:11] And again, this is coming...going back to what I was saying, [22:14] this is the original signal from the frequency generator. [22:20] And then when it goes across the primary, the primary is actually in the inductor. [22:25] It's an inductor transformer. [22:28] So you actually have the time of the pulses elongated from the induction. [22:34] So if you put in the 50% duty cycle, you actually end up with a longer pulse across the primary. [22:42] What's that? [22:45] Maybe that's what guy's connections in the just measuring at the output there instead of the signal they were. [22:52] Possibility. [22:53] You never really know where the patent. [22:55] They just put enough in there. [22:58] If you ever notice stands patents, some of the pages say replacement or something on them. [23:08] What's the patent page say? [23:12] At the bottom it says replacement page or something. [23:15] That has a different... [23:20] Different image. [23:25] Different image. [23:27] Not that it's entirely different from something they have a different format. [23:35] It sounds good. [23:37] So this is the main... [23:47] This is your 50% duty cycle that you would be sending into the cell and then this is your gate. [23:57] So you basically have a frequency generator and another frequency generator. [24:03] One becomes the master and one's the slave. [24:08] So when one turns off, it turns the other one off. [24:11] So again on mine I can adjust this gap here and I can adjust all this stuff. [24:18] But everything says Stan used the 50% duty cycle here and later on in the car paperwork you can see where he's adjusted this off-ton and on-ton. [24:32] Because he wanted so much hydrogen to run the car and then he would just change the gate to change the speed of the car or the amount of hydrogen. [24:43] He actually mentions that a few different times. [24:52] And again I'm going back and forth. [24:55] This would be your reference ground on the oscilloscope and your positive pulse at 5 volts. [25:03] Most of your circuitry, the 555 can run at 5 volts, the 145 I think. [25:12] And then all of your other shaping circuits run at 5 volts. [25:21] And here I'm explaining here's the gate tone and here's your own time of the pulses. [25:29] I apologize for boring the electronic guys. [25:34] So again this is just me explaining the different pulses. [25:40] You can change this and change that. [25:49] And again this is going back over some of it. [25:55] I tried to make this as simple as I could so anybody could follow it, a newcomer could follow it. [26:01] And again this is on my forum. [26:05] It's my forum so I can be an expert. [26:15] What's that? [26:18] The expert part? [26:22] So the diode. [26:27] So stand for the diode between the secondary and the chokes. [26:35] Now I go into a little bit explaining diodes. [26:38] Most of you know what a diode is. [26:42] A diode, you have different theories of electrical theory. [26:53] Basically you have current going one way through a diode. [27:02] What's the current through it backwards? [27:05] Well that's what they say. [27:09] I'm not going to get into electrical theory. [27:13] Just trying to explain what's stand in. [27:17] Now practically they tried to incur through it backwards. [27:21] Well yeah we'll discuss that later. [27:25] We'll go back but that's just the capacitance while we switch off time. [27:30] Yeah old diodes, you look up the chart. [27:34] Just like any component you look up the chart and they'll tell you how fast the diode. [27:39] And stand used a fast diode. [27:44] I use a MER, M-U-R, ultra fast. [27:48] And they seem to work just fine. [27:50] I just got some shocky diodes from a mouse or a electronic. [27:57] And that in Texas has a good smell. [28:00] And these things only drop about .3 or .2 volts. [28:05] So it's really efficient. [28:07] We're going to rectify some AP and RR stuff for you to do it. [28:12] You're shocking. [28:14] He's talking about the voltage drop. [28:16] There's a component and diode. [28:20] There's voltage that's wasted in heat. [28:24] Let's say that. [28:27] It tends to drop .7 volts to a medium. [28:29] It tends to drop .3. [28:31] I don't know. [28:32] It would depend. [28:33] Each one's different. [28:34] They're all different. [28:35] That's the reason why there's so many different ones is because one is designed for a specific purpose. [28:41] And then they're like hey we can sell these to everybody. [28:43] And you don't even need to use a diode. [28:45] You can use a MOSFET with a drive or something. [28:48] Well a MOSFET is a diode. [28:50] A MOSFET has a built-in diode but there's no way to get rid of it. [28:53] It's an inherent part of the structure. [28:56] A MOSFET doesn't drop. [28:59] It looks more like a resistor to this circuit. [29:02] A MOSFET is capacitor driven. [29:06] To turn on and off is a capacitor. [29:10] A gate is part of the... [29:14] We'll go on. [29:15] Yeah so a transistor is current driven and a MOSFET is voltage driven. [29:22] Which is again electrical theory. [29:25] But yeah that's why a MOSFET's faster. [29:28] It takes voltage to turn it on. [29:30] 10 volts usually. [29:32] So whereas the transistor... [29:35] They'll function almost like at 2 volts depending on the transistor. [29:40] It's a current sync. [29:42] So the current travels right through it. [29:45] Where was I? Diode. [29:47] Yeah so like I said I use a Myr Ultrafast. [29:52] And they function just fine. [29:54] Not all diodes are equal. [29:56] Some of them won't work. [29:58] Just the characteristics of the diode. [30:01] Some people say oh look I got it working. [30:04] But in reality their diode didn't work. [30:08] So they have an AC signal. [30:10] Which is why I went over the AC. [30:13] And if you put AC across water you just have AC across water. [30:19] Yeah I find it really interesting when the intensifier circuit is called. [30:25] The diode actually makes this function. [30:41] If the diode doesn't function then you get an AC wave. [30:45] If the diode works correctly you get a biased waveform. [30:50] And you have to have a biased waveform in order to make the hydrogen. [30:54] If you have an AC wave you're not going to have... [30:58] If you have a biased AC wave you're going to get some hydrogen production. [31:04] Well he goes over repeatedly... [31:11] You don't want it to drop below about 2 volts. [31:15] Yes. [31:16] The regular row of electrolysis limit is 1.2 pre volts. [31:21] So you really don't want it to go below 1.2 pre volts. [31:26] We'll get into that discussion later. [31:29] There's a lot more on that. [31:32] So you were asking about the feedback. [31:35] The flat transformer that was in the car. [31:40] It's small. [31:43] It's 60,000. [31:48] The flat...no it's an A. Is that right? [31:51] It wasn't very wide. [31:53] So we had these made. [31:56] And this is stands here. [31:59] Basically it looks like this. [32:02] So you say oh that's a flat transformer. [32:06] I can't buy that. [32:07] Well you can't buy anything if you have the money. [32:11] So we made these special made. [32:15] And we had the made to specifications. [32:19] And this is your feedback loop here. [32:22] It goes to the feedback...the PLL circuit. [32:26] So what he...you can see the actual one here. [32:32] So he had a circuit with a phase locked loop in it, PLL. [32:37] So basically I believe that was for whatever water he put in it. [32:43] I think the way he designed it once it was running, [32:48] he didn't need that circuitry. [32:51] But if he changed the water, he's going to need that. [32:55] I think he had other components that started the process. [33:02] So you have your primary, your secondary. [33:07] The secondary goes to a diode. [33:09] And then this is the inductor. [33:13] And this is an inductor. [33:15] And then your cell connects here. [33:18] But we have information on the size of this core and this bobbin. [33:24] So we can take a little bit of math and figure out the approximate lines that we need. [33:31] And then we can take... [33:34] We have the homage of the wire and we have the inductance of the wire on the core. [33:41] So with the air and we have the inductance with the core. [33:46] The inductance with air and the inductance with the core. [33:50] So using that information we can have these made in whatever grade of ferrite that we can buy. [33:58] And then measure it and see if we bought the right cores or not. [34:02] So I bought six different permeabilities of cores. [34:08] I had them all cut. [34:10] You have to use a diamond to cut it. [34:14] So it cost a little bit of money. [34:19] Yeah, those cores, they can vary drastically. [34:22] There's all kinds of different... [34:24] Oh yeah. [34:25] You have... [34:27] I have 6,500 permeability. [34:32] Down to 1,800 per. [34:38] And here I'm explaining what a tank circuit is. [34:43] A tank circuit is an oscillation between an inductor and a capacitor. [34:50] And you can actually look up resonance for an LC circuit, which is the tank circuit. [34:57] And here's your capacitor, which Stan says is water. [35:02] And then there's the inductor from the transformer. [35:06] So it's a real thing. [35:09] They tell you the resonance of the LC circuit, you can do the math to figure it out. [35:16] So if you have the known inductance with the known capacitance, [35:22] and then you can figure out the frequency that you need to reach this resonance via math. [35:31] And then you can also take and use math to figure the impedance. [35:37] Impedance is like working resistance. [35:42] Is that correct? [35:45] Impedance, I would say, is frequency dependent. [35:48] Right, working resistance. [35:50] The equation... [35:52] Say again, Mark? [35:54] The equation is exactly that. [35:56] Well, there's different equations. [35:59] The equation is z is equal to the square root of r squared plus x squared, [36:07] which people break out to being x sub L minus x sub C, [36:13] and that seems to be the square root of r squared. [36:17] You like that? [36:19] No, that's not it. [36:21] Those are the resonance formulas. [36:24] Right. [36:25] It's not the same formula. [36:27] Right, right. [36:29] Yeah, there's different formulas. [36:31] Say again? [36:32] It's math-hell. [36:33] It's not so bad. [36:35] You just go sit down and do it. [36:37] It's all right. [36:39] It's just like any other... [36:41] It's all right, Mark. [36:42] It's just like any of the other experiments. [36:44] You just go to do it. [36:45] Once you do it, you need to see what you see. [36:48] What you have to do is just say x is equal to x sub L plus x... [36:54] Well, you can't use x because it's in a different equation. [37:03] You got it? [37:04] That's not impedance. [37:07] We're not rocket science. [37:09] You're a pure oligarch. [37:10] He is. [37:11] Rocket science? [37:12] You like any of those, Mark? [37:13] Oh, I use them all the time. [37:15] Yeah. [37:16] My favorite one is... [37:17] Mark, in case you don't know, is a chemist, and he's extremely smart. [37:26] And then I go into... [37:28] You have to take the inductor, and you have to adjust it. [37:34] Whenever you have a frequency into the primary, [37:38] again, the primary is an inductor, so the frequency is altered, [37:43] and then you have an inductance coupling into the secondary, [37:48] and then you have the inductors themselves. [37:53] So everything gets altered by the time it comes out the end. [37:57] So once you do the math, you have to physically change this or that [38:02] after you see what you see. [38:04] That's what people do every day. [38:07] You can't just say, oh, I went to college. [38:10] I did the math. [38:18] If you get into the ballpark, you get past your chest. [38:21] Yeah, you get into the ballpark with the math, [38:24] and then you do the work, and maybe you mess something up, [38:28] and you're not even close, [38:30] and then you find out whether the math was right, [38:32] but what you did was wrong, [38:34] or maybe it doesn't fit the math, and hey, wow, look at that. [38:40] Well, then you got to figure out, well, what did I do? [38:44] One time I had this... [38:47] The hydrogen's pouring off, right, [38:50] and I'm looking, and I'm looking at a oscilloscope, [38:53] and I'd never seen that before. [38:57] And what did I do? [38:59] What did I do? [39:01] I was actually stealing power from the power company. [39:05] Accidentally? [39:08] Accidentally. [39:10] Once I figured out, you know, it was of no interest to me [39:13] because that wasn't what I was trying to do. [39:17] And then this is a crystal radio set. [39:21] Steal the thieves. [39:22] What's that? [39:23] You can't steal from a thief. [39:26] Well, regardless, yeah, once I figured out [39:31] that that wasn't what I wanted to do something else. [39:35] So here's the crystal radio. [39:38] Basically, you're tuning an inductor with a tunable capacitor. [39:43] You take your antenna, and you can choose different spots, [39:48] and then you turn the knob on the capacitor, [39:52] and you have a germanian diode, [39:56] and it goes, this is a capacitor and a resistance [39:59] and a capacitor. [40:01] So basically, you have a signal going through the air, [40:04] and the antenna picks up the signal, [40:07] and then you tune into that signal, [40:09] and then it plays it on the speaker. [40:12] And that's a crystal radio. [40:14] There's no battery. [40:16] The power is the signal itself. [40:19] They're fine. [40:21] They're not staying in the butt. [40:23] I call it. [40:25] They're actually playing, but they're fine. [40:27] And actually, if you go back to that picture. [40:32] The crystal radio? [40:34] Yeah. [40:36] Crystal radio. [40:40] If you put another diode after the diode [40:47] and you're shunted across the capacitor. [40:51] The C? [40:54] So from ground to the top end, [40:58] you will get twice the voltage. [41:00] To here. [41:01] And so you'll actually get more volume out of your speaker. [41:04] So you get a feedback through the diode back in here. [41:07] You're getting the other side of the curve. [41:10] Ah, so you got a full wave instead of a halfway. [41:13] It's not a full wave. [41:15] That's a different version. [41:18] But it's a voltage double wave. [41:20] And so you get more power out. [41:24] Is there a capacitor on the diode too? [41:29] Diode. [41:32] Right. [41:34] But no, you put it with cathode on top. [41:39] So the plus side is going out the same place the other one. [41:43] Right here. [41:45] The anode would be on the ground. [41:47] So you're saying the capacitance in the diode itself [41:52] is your capacitance with the diode? [41:55] This is in addition. [41:57] Yes, yes, in addition here. [42:02] You have a diode. [42:04] You're shy. [42:05] Put one like that. [42:07] And then there's another one. [42:09] And it will double the voltage. [42:11] Right. [42:16] So you're saying using a diode, you can double voltage. [42:22] You can triple it. [42:25] Yeah, crock for Walton. [42:28] You can go capacitor, diode, capacitor, diode, everything. [42:31] It's called a Walton-Crock multilayer. [42:34] And you can make a million volts out of it. [42:38] That's how those tasers work. [42:41] Yeah, so you need a diode and a capacitor for each step. [42:50] But you lose amperage. [42:52] Each time you gain and voltage, you lose an amperage. [42:55] Your only remedy is to use bigger capacitors. [42:58] It doesn't matter what you do. [43:00] You always have watts. [43:04] There's no cheating in the watt. [43:06] Well, you don't use a magnetic use. [43:08] You can't get the Aura-Hurst 4-A-O-Z or use a piezoelectric element. [43:12] The voltage is true. [43:13] Yeah, that's what it, I believe that's what it was in the picture. [43:17] You can use non-yotransformers and diode and magnet use. [43:20] Yeah, but then you have to put power into the audio transformer. [43:24] Well, I have gotten just the, I have driven a speaker. [43:28] This is a piezo, correct? [43:30] You have driven a speaker to an audio transformer with just the power from the signal. [43:37] It wasn't very loud. [43:39] Once you go into adding transistors for an amplifier, then you've got to add a battery. [43:46] I'm talking just a transformer. [43:49] Not a transformer. [43:51] Okay, so you stepped it up. [43:55] You stepped it up. [43:56] You stepped it up. [43:58] Impedance matching transformer. [44:00] So the impedance, low impedance, like 8 ohms. [44:06] So your output of the transformer had to match the impedance of the piezo. [44:13] The piezo's high impedance and your magnetic speaker's low impedance. [44:18] So the transformer has a high impedance input and the low impedance output would go to your magnetic speaker. [44:25] It's very hot. [44:29] And more formulas on resonance and LC circuit. [44:34] So the little flat core, it's a square, but in reality it's a terroid. [44:44] So once you put power to a terroid, you have the right hand rule. [44:51] So you have a vector of the energy. [44:55] So if you put power in one way, your coil wire, then you're going to have a magnetic field going one way. [45:03] The first computer memory was binary, is that right? [45:08] You have one core. [45:10] Fair IB. [45:11] Fair IB. [45:13] And then once you put energy into that bead, it held that direction. [45:18] And the winding could be like one strand of the wire. [45:22] And that was one bit. [45:24] And the other way, it's called core memory. [45:28] So it just forever spun around. [45:31] More or less. [45:33] It would try to send a signal through there, and if it got resistance, then it knew. [45:38] It had a bit stored in there. [45:40] So you had a charging coil, and then you had a pickup coil. [45:47] Right. [45:48] Which again, once you add power, then you have flux that travels around that coil. [45:57] Which charges your coil. [46:02] You get a step charge from charging the coil from this. [46:09] And then this is the original flat core with the transistor. [46:22] Wow, memory lapsed. [46:24] That transistor was... [46:30] I'm just trying to remember where that transistor went. [46:36] This was the... if I remember correctly, this was the voltage. [46:40] The card I just gave you. [46:42] This was part of the voltage circuit. [46:45] So it was 30, 55, 60 volts, 50 amps. [46:49] Well, you still have wattage. [46:53] You still have wattage. [46:56] It may be 60 volts, but if there's almost no amperage, then you can go higher. [47:03] Depending on how fast you pulse it, it doesn't like to go fast. [47:07] It was basically an audio transformer amplifier. [47:11] It's a transformer. [47:15] I never saw one used in an amplifier, only in burgers. [47:20] It's also a big transformer, like AC or something. [47:24] I believe it was originally designed for a driver, audio driver. [47:32] And then it would just become popular because it was cheap. [47:37] You can see a lot of power supplies for hand radio, portable equipment. [47:43] Yeah. [47:45] You can drive it a lot faster, but it doesn't like it. [47:49] You just lose heat. [47:51] You lose part of your signal. [47:53] Ever since MOSFETs come up, all my audio amplifiers are MOSFETs. [47:58] Because they're more predictable. [48:00] I'm kind of partial to the 3055. [48:06] And again, this is Stan's original core. [48:10] Here's your pickup. [48:11] Here's your primary and the secondary. [48:13] And then the jokes. [48:15] And if you look, this one was broke and he put a piece of tape on it with glue. [48:26] And this is what I made. [48:33] These are Delrin. [48:35] This is Delrin. [48:36] These are Delrin. [48:38] And we had the Delrin ones made. [48:42] But that's a lot of money. [48:46] So in order to test something, I bought some silicone mold. [48:52] And I made castings of the Delrin pieces. [48:55] And then this is fiberglass resin. [48:59] So you can make that for like a dollar. [49:02] Yeah. [49:07] It provides me epoxy, so it's still pretty expensive. [49:11] You know, you get it. [49:12] Oh yeah. [49:13] You know, the epoxy would cost you like 50 hours. [49:16] I have the discussion all the time. [49:18] You can take hemp and it makes really nice epoxy. [49:21] Hemp? [49:22] Hemp. [49:23] Not marijuana, but hemp. [49:25] Yeah, hemp can be made in all kinds of stuff. [49:28] And they make a really nice epoxy. [49:31] And you can actually, you don't need a mask or anything. [49:34] The model T-4 had a car body off the board. [49:37] And there's a video of it. [49:38] He made the whole car. [49:39] He even, he fueled the car. [49:42] Yeah. [49:43] The fuel was even from hemp. [49:46] So this is a TV flyback core. [49:50] So you just, you can do some math and you can make a wiring fit. [49:55] So I give $13 for a TV flyback core. [50:00] The other, the other cores were like $120 of my cost, the flat ones to make. [50:07] And I had to buy a bunch of them. [50:09] But the TV core was like 13 bucks. [50:12] And I stuck it in the freezer for a couple of days. [50:15] And then I just pulled it apart, pulled the, and then I, I went back. [50:19] And then I, I wound my own bobbins. [50:21] This is flat PVC with PVC pipe glued together. [50:25] And then I wound the wire on it. [50:28] So instead of like a $500 flat core, I got like a $15. [50:37] It'll do the same job. [50:41] And then this is Stan's original schematic. [50:47] The dot shows you where your start is, start of the line. [50:52] So here's your duty, here's your 50% duty cycle in. [50:57] And if you notice T3 here, he's adjusting that gait time. [51:05] And then here's your primary and your secondary. [51:09] And you notice the coil orientation right here. [51:13] Here's your blocking diode. [51:17] Isolated electrical ground. [51:20] Tune resonant charging choke. [51:23] Resonant charging choke. [51:25] This one has an adjustable wiper on it. [51:30] So if you notice, this is not the same as this. [51:35] This is what I was saying. [51:37] When it comes out, it's altered from what went in. [51:42] This is just the way inductors work. [51:45] And the transformer is an inductive transformer. [51:54] So here's the simplified drawing. [51:57] You have a primary, secondary, inductor, inductor. [52:02] And here's your wiring diagram. [52:05] And this one is positive out and this one is negative out. [52:09] So this is the turn directions, but in reality, [52:14] if you turn it, they're going in the same direction. [52:17] It's just the terrible way. [52:27] And then this is some more stand stuff. [52:30] He explains there's electromagnetic coupling distributed [52:35] with capacitance across the wires. [52:39] This is ER is the water capacitor. [52:43] And then you have the inductor with the capacitor. [52:48] And it's an LC circuit. [52:50] And that's exactly what he said. [52:52] He even gives you the math to figure that out. [52:57] And then he says electrical charging effect. [53:02] Basically, you have a positive and negative zone, [53:05] so the water is split into oxygen and hydrogen. [53:09] The charge on the plates, not current, [53:13] it's actually a voltage charge. [53:18] All of this is directly off of my form. [53:21] Yeah, you can see this is C online, Icarus, that's me. [53:27] And I have 2,737 posts. [53:32] And this is actually froze at the top so nobody can smack talk on that subject. [53:39] And it's froze so you can just read it and you can copy it. [53:45] You go to irondmax.com and there's a link to the forum [53:50] or you can just Google IronDmax forum. [53:56] And again, all the subjects at the top are frozen [54:00] so nobody can say whatever they say, which is surprising. [54:06] And there's a whole bunch of gibberish where I haven't had time to erase everything. [54:11] I just don't have time to erase it anymore. [54:17] But this is a very basic block diagram of how stands the circuit tree works. [54:25] Again, resonant cavity, voltage-intensifier circuit, VIC, that's the transformer, [54:32] electrical charging effect. [54:34] He's saying when it functions, it pulls the water apart via voltage. [54:40] This is a positive voltage, this is a negative voltage, B for battery. [54:46] So it's not AC, it's GC. [54:54] And he's saying once his 304 stainless, somebody said something about 316. [55:01] He specifically says 304 stainless everywhere. [55:05] He even goes out of his way to say that. [55:08] I ignored those guys, we got 304? [55:11] Yeah, obviously he repeats it for a reason. [55:19] Most people won't waste their time repeating something if there's no reason. [55:25] Again, this is inductance. [55:28] The inductance has resistance, it has capacitance, even your wire itself has resistance. [55:36] If you really wanted to do the math for sure. [55:39] Why are S and capacitance? [55:41] Capacitance and resistance. [55:44] Even zero gauge, big monster is still resistance. [55:50] Copper resistance. [55:53] That's why everybody wants the perfect conductor. [55:57] That's why everybody's researching conductors because no resistance means speed. [56:04] This computer, what is it, 3 gigahertz or something? [56:09] Everybody wants a faster computer. [56:11] Once you add resistance, it slows you down. [56:15] I'm sure there's some limit, it must be 3 gigahertz at the moment. [56:20] Nothing in there is going 3 gigahertz, they're just parallel to all the others. [56:25] Right. [56:27] They can put as fast as driver as they want, but the motherboard itself still has resistance [56:33] and that's all the faster it can go is that motherboard. [56:36] So everybody wants the least resistance possible. [56:40] Yeah. [56:43] Yeah, I always say time and space. [56:46] How much time and how far. [56:53] And again, this is, you have the one inductor and you have the second inductor [57:00] and he says capacitance charging effect with L1, that's the inductor on the positive side, [57:07] electron inhibiting effect on inductor 2, L2, that's the one on the negative side. [57:15] And there again, he's showing the resistance of the wire. [57:19] And then the water has capacitance and resistance. [57:24] Again, you have to input everything into your math if you were interested in doing the math. [57:30] I just like to turn the dial. [57:34] Why give yourself a headache with the math? [57:38] Yeah, again, my oscilloscope, it's a $5,000 oscilloscope, isolated ground, and it does all that crap for me. [57:49] It tells me what voltage I'm at. [57:51] All I have to do is make sure I accurately set it. [57:55] And then if someone comes and says, ah, you didn't set it right, I can check it yourself. [58:02] And all they have to do is go into the menu and they can see where I set it. [58:07] Because realistically, you could put a times 1000 probe on it and then set the oscilloscope on times 10. [58:17] So it's going to give you a false reading. [58:20] So again, that's why I said if you really wanted to prove something, the guy would have to be there [58:25] and he has to check your scope to see that you didn't make a mistake. [58:31] Sometimes people make mistakes. [58:34] Like, Frank helps me a lot and one of us will get excited and I'll be like, just, we have to check it. [58:43] And that's what you got to do before you can go tell someone how excited you are or you have to check everything. [58:51] Sometimes it might take a couple of days to make sure you didn't make a mistake. [58:58] Man, I'm windy. [59:06] We're almost wrapping this up. [59:11] So again, someone said something about the voltage leftover. [59:16] When there's a pulse across the water, he clearly states that there's a little bit of voltage left over. [59:23] And again, there's that time thing, pulse time. [59:30] And again, this is where he's showing you in every part of the circuit, you have resistance and inductance. [59:44] And then here he's showing the electron bounce phenomenon. [59:50] He specifically says copper ions in the water. [59:56] Copper ions. This is the water cell. This is the water being split. [60:02] Dislodge the electron. Positive voltage potential on the plates, negative potential. [60:13] And so you have a positive here. [60:20] But right here he says copper ions. [60:26] We'll get into that later today. [60:31] And again, I have a forum. You can download all this stuff. You can look at it on the forum. [60:40] I also have a thingyverse. This is 3D printed stuff. [60:45] Instead of buying a bobbin, you can go on thingyverse and download stuff that I've already done and posted. [60:53] Simon. Simon has downloaded a bunch of stuff and he's printed it out. [60:58] Worked just fine. Printed fine. He's using stuff off my thingyverse. [61:05] 3D printing. I even did a winder so you can wind your own bobbins. [61:12] You made the winder as well. So you can wind your own bobbins. [61:16] It's a lot of my stuff. I've already put it on thingyverse. If you had a printer, you just downloaded it. Print it right off. [61:27] And here I just go into the known permeabilities. [61:32] Basically, with Stan's flat core from the car, it was most probably 99% sure. [61:45] 1,800 perm to 2,000 permeability. [61:50] Then you can take the homage of the wire, which we know, and you can figure out the footage. [61:57] Wire homages by the thousand foot. You just do a simple math equation and you can figure out how many feet approximately for that homage. [62:07] And then if you know the size of the bobbin, you just start with that footage and you can wind it on that winder from the 3D printer. [62:18] And then you count your winds. You always count your winds. That's important actually. [62:23] Your inductance is important. Your count is important. And actually the wire length is important. [62:38] And then, see, I'm sorry. [62:42] So this is with the TV core, the TV flyback cores. [62:49] Most of the cores you're going to buy are 2,000 permeability. It's pretty generic. [62:56] And then this is Stan's flat cores. [63:01] I give you the, in the feet and the homage. [63:09] And that's it. [63:12] And here's one of the boards that we made and we sold them as cheap as we could sell them. [63:18] The populated board was 75 bucks and everybody complained that was too much money. [63:25] I'll tell you what, after all the work I put in with that strip board, I go to the store. [63:32] It worked everything out. My cash worth nothing goes. [63:37] So what Jeff is just saying is if you go to my website, I give how to make the circuit, the simplified circuit of Stan's. [63:47] Instead of decade counters, I use capacitors as the divide by 10. [63:54] But it works just fine. How many hours did you spend on making it? [63:59] By the time I troubleshoot it, I found all my bass solder joints and scratched my head about a week. [64:05] So he spent a week and we sold them for 75 dollars populated. [64:10] And they were tested before they got mailed. [64:15] That's why they invented the printed circuit board. [64:20] Yeah, I paid a couple bucks for the board but I had to buy 500 of them. [64:28] But they have a lot cheaper now. You can make three made for a few bucks. [64:34] Yeah, but then you get into time again and I really don't want to mess with three boards. [64:39] I want a couple hundred. [64:42] I give a lot of the boards away. You got some. I give him one this morning. [64:49] So, any questions? Everybody's asleep? [64:56] How's it work? [65:01] Go skate your conference. [65:04] Yeah, go to my conference. We'll have one next year about this time. [65:10] Alright. [65:11] To get access to those pictures, you have to create an account on your forum. [65:15] Yeah, you just have to. It's free. [65:18] But you just created an account and it should send you a reply to your email. [65:25] Say again? [65:27] No. You just sign in and then you put in a password and I believe you have to redo your password after that. [65:39] Yeah, the forum's free. My website's got all kinds of info on it. [65:45] And the thingy versus free. [65:49] And Facebook. I have a group on Facebook where I answer every day. Some of you are on the Facebook. [66:01] So is the forum different from the account on the... [66:08] Like you have an account for purchasing stuff? [66:13] That's the website. I have an LED light. [66:16] No, but is that different password from an account then for the forum? [66:23] The forum's in gray right there. [66:26] But the thing is, you said you have to sign in again. [66:32] You should get an email and then you verify yourself. [66:41] If you can't make it work, let me know. [66:44] I can't promise you I can make it work. Someone else set up the forum for me. [66:49] That's a little beyond me of the forum. [66:52] For a number of years I went out of my way to put this stuff out there. [66:58] I put most of my research out there. [67:03] The response was less than thrilling to me. [67:07] And I still did it anyway because I felt everyone needed to have it. [67:12] A couple people donated money and help and they specifically asked me to put it on there. [67:21] That's why the forum is there now still. [67:24] I don't have the time. [67:29] I really didn't have the time then, but I took the time because it was something that I felt I needed to do. [67:39] That's why it's there. [67:41] Just like the circuits, that really wasn't me. [67:45] There's a man, Perry Ritter, he asked me to help him with the circuit. [67:49] He's the one that wanted to sell the circuits. [67:52] And the price was so miniscule, he just wanted everybody to have them. [67:58] And then people just bought them and tried to mark them up for resale. [68:04] They would buy a $75 circuit and they'd put it up for sale on their site for $350. [68:10] My circuit, and the picture was even with my desk under the circuit. [68:22] Other people took my information and they put their name on it with copyright underneath of it. [68:28] And plastered it all over the internet with their name and their copyright. [68:34] With my logo sometimes. [68:36] They copyrighted my logo. [68:40] So, yeah, I work 60 hours a week now and drive 4 hours every day. [68:50] I don't have the time anymore. [68:53] I'd love to do this full time, but I gotta pay the bills. [68:58] Obviously I need to eat. I'm wasting away here. [69:03] So, anything else? [69:09] Okay, let's take a break. [69:13] And I got 11 o'clock. [69:19] Do you want to eat now? [69:21] We better eat now. Jim's going to be a while talking, I'm sure. [69:27] I believe in the Stanley Meyer simple student. [69:31] It's all he's the simple one. I know it's the stupid one. So it'll go fast. [69:35] If we take a break, somebody can go get us an order of some pizzas. [69:40] We'll have to show up. [69:42] And then we'll have a discussion while we're eating. [69:46] And then you can... [69:55] Alright, well thanks guys. 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