Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
Started by unknown · date unknown · 7 posts
-
#1 · date not recorded
Somebody told me me that the VIC 6-1 might actually be the the "amplitude control circuit" for this bifilar circuit . It would be great to see with a phase meter , if there is actually some current phasing going on with John's connection as the frequency is changing, I believe there is not , so I wonder if this is not just some advanced form of power supply .
It is true that the waveform is the same but that waveform will always be the same when you have capacitance in the circuit , its nothing telling at all .
Also I wonder why go through so much trouble when a normal rectified transformer would do the same thing , perhaps a question of efficiency ?
But then theres also the issue of how it is you should connect the VIC 6-1 to this bifilar , it all makes no sense , the bifilar is grounded but is also connected to the 6-1...
Also , Kinesis , plz confirm that you are indeed getting some unipolar pulses with no other diode besides the one before the positive red choke and inputing unipolar pulsed dc on primary side.attachment_3694 attachment_3702 attachment_3706 attachment_3708 familiaroscope-0000000.jpg bifilarr.JPG bifilarr.JPG bifilarr.JPG
-
#2 · date not recorded
dankie it is not....it is completely seperate......6-1 is not variable voltage control i can show you with my scope what happens if you put a normal 50 percent duty square wave into it without the correct proportion of amplitude to power.
and the only diode i am using is the one on john's cil...aka the ONLY DIODE IN THE VIC CIRCUIT. -
#3 · date not recorded
dankie it is not....it is completely seperate......6-1 is not variable voltage control i can show you with my scope what happens if you put a normal 50 percent duty square wave into it without the correct proportion of amplitude to power.
and the only diode i am using is the one on john's cil...aka the ONLY DIODE IN THE VIC CIRCUIT.
How can you be sure ?
Your scope shows me that your transformer is working in a unipolar way .
but If your connection has no current phase , it will be hard for you to reach any sort of resonance , that is why I say you must test with a phase meter to see what is happening when you are switching those freqs
Now if you cant reach resonance theres a problem , it means this isnt a VIC , and this amplitude theory is out of the blue , theres a problem ... Amplitude should be independant , its not working with lower voltage or higher voltage ? Is that nice waveform frequency dependant ?
Now is there a voltage rise @ a specific frequency ? I understand there is not ...
Are you pulsing this with your frequency generator straight up ? You need a power source dude , full 12 volts from a battery with only the primary resistance and mayeb a tiny bit more , thats it . -
#4 · date not recorded
dankie i drew it out for you before NO I AM NOT USING JUST MY FUNCTION GENERATOR!
LISTEN AND READ.
damnit.....it doesn't matter what i write you completely don't even read it.
do you know anything about electronics?
look at my new topic called variable voltage amplitude control.
i drew it out of exactly what is going on and what im doing......i even provided the wave forms at each point AND I HAVE EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOWS IN THE PATENT AT EACH STEP.
holy shit. -
#5 · date not recorded
Yes it does look like the same waveform , but it is not doubled either and doesnt tell me much if this is really working .
You say its working , I say lets check the other caracteristics we should see like voltage rise @ a certain frequency and input amps going down . , thats why I ask other questions .
When you say "it works" , plz elaborate . -
#6 · date not recorded
it means that when the 50% duty cycle on pulse charges up the inductor and then on the off pulse the inductor releases an exact equal pulse.....hence unipolar double pulses.
even 2curiouswfc didn't ahve a good double pulse.....these double pulses are 1kv with a 5 volt amplitude input. -
#7 · date not recorded
it means that when the 50% duty cycle on pulse charges up the inductor and then on the off pulse the inductor releases an exact equal pulse.....hence unipolar double pulses.
even 2curiouswfc didn't ahve a good double pulse.....these double pulses are 1kv with a 5 volt amplitude input.
Well it may be that you are right .
VIC coil 6-1 is not like a regular coil , its a pancake coil bifilar and wrapped with a transformer . It may just work like you say it works .
W/e way you choose it will be high-volts low amps .
Sign in to reply, or ask for an account.