Cosmic Induction Generator — Energy Science Forum

#26 · 13 Dec 2016

The ether also behaves like a very fine liquid so it will pass through the walls of any container you try to create a vacuum in. Setting up gravitational waves to stretch the ether, might be possible using one of teslas ideas.

Sam J Batchelar

#27 · 30 Dec 2016

The analogy between a liquid and the aether can be used because a fine liquid is a myriad of particles held together by forces. When a force is observed it is found that only the results of the force can be measured, the force itself cannot be identified as a physical, measurable object. Therefor the force holding the particles of a liquid together is a area of Aether subject to rules which allow the velocity of a object to change. If a liquid is compressed external force is required, the internal force of the liquid serves to maintain the liquids density, so the compression of a liquid is the compression of the Aether surrounding the particles within the liquid. In another arrangement if forces are used (such as the ones that hold objects together) in a configuration using two contiguous areas of force/Aether then these areas can either compress into one another or part from one another as determined by the direction of the areas of force which in and of itself can be determined by the direction a object moves when placed in such a area of force/Aether.

Sam J Batchelar

#28 · 30 Dec 2016

Handy andy wrote:
Hi Sam
Zooming in a bit further all particles are made up of vortices of the aether (toroids etc), zooming in further still, you have waves of the aether that cause quantum matter, zooming in further still, you have the stretching of the aether which causes gravitational effects, all forces everything is made up of the aether. Mainstream science is looking for a god particle, that everything is made from. The aether does not become a particle until it acquires enough energy locally to become a particle vortex. The aether fills all, points in space, between all atoms, it makes all atoms, it carries all forces. Every kind of long range or short range force is just a manifestation of a different type of vortex toroid dipole archimedes screw etc within the aether. The other interesting thing is a zero dimension, to which all points of the aether are connected, but it does explain quantum entanglement, and the possibility of monopoles.
At least thats what i reckon.
Andy

I agree with your description of particles being vortices of aether. However when it comes to forces being the stretching of the aether due to the presence of the particle it seems to me the field itself should decay from the edge/surface of the particle. In other words the curvature of aether should be greatest closest to the particle and as the distance from the particle increases the curvature of aether should decrease. Also the greater the mass of the particle the greater the curvature close to the particle and also the greater the overall size of the curved area of aether. Another way of saying this would be the greater the speed of the vortex of aether the greater the curvature of aether around the particle and also the greater the size of the curved area of space.

However when a gravitational field is observed around a known source of gravity all that can be observed is the effects of the field. Furthermore it is known that the gravitational field of the earth is essentially constant in its strength through varying altitudes. This does not support the idea of curved space because the curved space decreases in curvature from the particle of high mass. In other words because the planet's body, within the idea of curved space will have a substantially larger effect on space than the atmosphere a similarly substantial decrease in the effects of the curved space on objects should be observed as the distance from the planet's body increases. In reality the effects of the earths gravitational field decrease by a substantial amount starting at the edge of the earth's atmosphere.

Sam

Sam J Batchelar

#29 · 1 Jan 2017

Gravity may be explained by the stretching of space in the sense that it explains the motion of a object towards another object. But what this theory does fail to do is to fit in to reality. Reality is not just the motion of the object in the gravitational field but how the objects velocity changes in the gravitational field (the rate at which the field decays over distance and the point at which this decay begins).

I have expressed the problem with the stretching of space and how the Earth's gravitational field ultimately does not support such a idea. :"

However when a gravitational field is observed around a known source of gravity all that can be observed is the effects of the field. Furthermore it is known that the gravitational field of the earth is essentially constant in its strength through varying altitudes. This does not support the idea of curved space because the curved space decreases in curvature from the particle of high mass. In other words because the planet's body, within the idea of curved space will have a substantially larger effect on space than the atmosphere a similarly substantial decrease in the effects of the curved space on objects should be observed as the distance from the planet's body increases. In reality the effects of the earths gravitational field decrease by a substantial amount starting at the edge of the earth's atmosphere."

The decay by the inverse square law of the gravitational field begins at the edge of the atmosphere, (at the edge of a low density medium). The decay of the field through the atmosphere is negligible. This fact alone serves to disassociate the direct relationship between mass and (gravitational) field strength.