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Running on Fumes

Started by vidbid · · 15 posts · last reply 3 September 2017

  1. vidbid

    #1 ·



    It's reported that the largest US refinery has been shut down by Hurricane Harvey, and we could be seeing gasoline prices increase as supply decreases.

    Therefore, one solution could be to run your engine on fumes, literally.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWqMZ8-EHSo[/VIDEO]

    gasoline and fumes the difference - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWqMZ8-EHSo
    .. looks too simple. Can it really be that easy?

    Why not run your gasoline generator like so?



    Old timer speaks truth:

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8[/VIDEO]

    the truth about gas and vapor part 1 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqKEQLBg6a8
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM[/VIDEO]

    the truth about gas and vapor part 2 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMDCT67xBM
  2. vidbid

    #2 ·

    Diesel Vapor Carburetor First Rough Run 10-4-2011

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMCdg3pt20[/VIDEO]

    Diesel Vapor Carburetor First Rough Run 10-4-2011 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMCdg3pt20
    Apparently, this works with diesel, too.
  3. vidbid

    #3 ·

    Pogue Carburetor



    United States Patent #2,026,798

    Download Patent as PDF



    The old timer in the first post mentioned the Pogue Carburator. Here's the follow up on that:



    Charles Nelson Pogue invented the 200-mpg carburetor.



    See story about Charles Pogue Carb.



    Operation of Pogue carburetor is relatively simple. Fuel pump, lower left of diagram above, forces gasoline through fuel line and out, as fine mist, through two nozzles at bottom of primary heating chamber. Only pure vapor is drawn up through spiral passages. When vapor reaches center of primary chamber, a vacuum-operated reciprocating pump forces it through conduit into secondary heating chamber, where vapor goes through second set of spiral passages. Vapor then enters downdraft air horn where it mixes with air and flows into intake manifold of engine. Gasoline which is not vaporized in the primary chamber, condenses, flows back through drain to fuel line and into pump.

  4. vidbid

    #4 ·

    Vapor Car

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEv8LGHvHvw[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snCA_xgQFWU[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208o9H1HC1g[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yseG5MShJn0[/VIDEO]

    Interesting series..

    Then I found this:

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrm9JzsnGU4[/VIDEO]

    See U.S. Patent 2,407,478
  5. vidbid

    #5 ·

    CrazyFishFarmer Running A Generator on Fumes

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiygknSFHs[/VIDEO]

    After 3 years still runs - Building a Vapor Carburetor with the Crazy Fish Farmer - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaiygknSFHs
    This video shows that you can run a gasoline generator on gasoline vapor.

    Interesting bubbler that he's using.



    With a set-up like this, you could go off-grid for a while.
  6. vidbid

    #6 ·

    CrazyFishFarmer

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljw87uVhdeE[/VIDEO]

    25 Building a Vapor Carburetor with the Crazy Fish Farmer - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljw87uVhdeE
    CrazyFishFarmer working out his design.

  7. vidbid

    #7 ·

    Bill's Vapor Engine

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1_tEnwCxs[/VIDEO]

    bills vapor engine - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1_tEnwCxs
    Glass fuel tank contains a mixture of 30% gasoline and 70% water.
  8. vidbid

    #8 ·

    Mechanic's Opinion.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofGUu5RVQw[/VIDEO]

    Mechanic Talks About Running Cars On Vapour! - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofGUu5RVQw
    Mechanic's opinion.

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    #9 ·

  10. vidbid

    #10 ·

    US Patent 4,177,779

    Tom Ogle, Inventor of the Super Carburetor

    Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the “Oglemobile”. On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.

    Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979

    “It all started with a lawn mower”

    US4177779-drawings-page-2.png
    A fuel economy system for an internal combustion engine which, when installed in a motor vehicle, obviates the need for a conventional carburetor, fuel pump and gasoline tank. The system operates by using the engine vacuum to draw fuel vapors from a vapor tank through a vapor conduit to a vapor equalizer which is positioned directly over the intake manifold of the engine. The vapor tank is constructed of heavy duty steel or the like to withstand the large vacuum pressure and includes an air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The vapor equalizer ensures distribution of the correct mixture of air and vapor to the cylinders of the engine for combustion, and also includes its own air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The system utilizes vapor-retarding filters in the vapor conduit, vapor tank and vapor equalizer to deliver the correct vapor/air mixture for proper operation. The vapor tank and fuel contained therein are heated by running the engine coolant through a conduit within the tank. Due to the extremely lean fuel mixtures used by the present invention, gas mileage in excess of one hundred miles per gallon may be achieved.


    Ref: Car gets 400+ MPG

    Also, see Charles Nelson Pogue: US Patent #1,759,354 ("Carburetor")
  11. vidbid

    #11 ·

    Tom Ogle's Vapor Fuel System



    In the 1970s, a man named Thomas Hans Wenor Wolfgang Peter Ogle developed a new type of carburetor that pressurized gasoline into a vapor and injected it into the firing chambers. After installing it in his Ford Galaxie, the car was measured to get 113 miles per gallon.

    He died under mysterious circumstances. Some say he was murdered.

    He was granted a US patent:

    US 4177779 A
    EP0008312A1
    WO1979000053A1

    Abstract of US Patent #4,177,779 wrote:

    A fuel economy system for an internal combustion engine which, when installed in a motor vehicle, obviates the need for a conventional carburetor, fuel pump and gasoline tank. The system operates by using the engine vacuum to draw fuel vapors from a vapor tank through a vapor conduit to a vapor equalizer which is positioned directly over the intake manifold of the engine. The vapor tank is constructed of heavy duty steel or the like to withstand the large vacuum pressure and includes an air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The vapor equalizer ensures distribution of the correct mixture of air and vapor to the cylinders of the engine for combustion, and also includes its own air inlet valve coupled for control to the accelerator pedal. The system utilizes vapor-retarding filters in the vapor conduit, vapor tank and vapor equalizer to deliver the correct vapor/air mixture for proper operation. The vapor tank and fuel contained therein are heated by running the engine coolant through a conduit within the tank. Due to the extremely lean fuel mixtures used by the present invention, gas mileage in excess of one hundred miles per gallon may be achieved.
    and

    I am aware of the following United States patents which are generally directed towards systems for improving the efficiency and/or reducing the pollutant emissions of internal combustion engines:

    Chapin 1,530,882
    Crabtree et al 2,312,151
    Hietrich et al 3,001,519
    Hall 3,191,587
    Wentworth 3,221,724
    Walker 3,395,681
    Holzappfel 3,633,533
    Dwyre 3,713,429
    Herpin 3,716,040
    Gorman, Jr. 3,728,092
    Alm et :11 3,749,376
    Hollis, Jr. 3,752,134
    Buckton et a] 3,759,234
    Kihn 3,817,233
    Shih 3,851,633
    Burden, Sr. 3,854,463
    Woolridge 3,874,353
    Mondt 3,888,223
    Brown 3,907,946
    Lee, Jr. 3,911,881
    Rose et a1 3,931,801
    Reimuller 3,945,352
    Harpman 3,968,775
    Naylor 4,003,356
    Fortino 4,01 1,847
    Leshner et al 4,015,569
    Sommervil 1e 4,015,570

    The Chapin U.S. Pat. No. (1,530,882) discloses a gasoline tank surrounded by a water jacket, the latter of which is included in a circulation system with the radiator of the automobile. The heated water in the circulation system causes the fuel in the gasoline tank to readily vaporize. Suction from the inlet manifold causes air to be drawn into the tank to bubble air through the gasoline to help form the desired vapor which is then drawn to the manifold for combustion.
    Man, there are ton of patents on this subject. It's amazing. Ogle is telling you where to look. Funny that there is no mention of Pogue.
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    #12 ·

  13. vidbid

    #13 ·

    Gasoline Wicking Vapor System

    This is interesting.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKaMA4jKTQ[/VIDEO]

    just vapor, the truth or a lie - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKaMA4jKTQ
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsIjY4n40E[/VIDEO]

    lawn morrow on wick vapor cutting grass part 1 - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzsIjY4n40E
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UcgMLnFjQ[/VIDEO]

    new vapor design with wick on lawnmower - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UcgMLnFjQ

    11:44 I say vapor is the
    11:49 way to go there's guys out there driving
    11:52 around on vapor when guys got a 318
    11:57 Dodge Ram truck he's running his solely
    12:00 on vapor and he's running through the
    12:02 fuel injectors he's never complained
    12:06 about burning the injectors up you know
    12:10 it's what it is is what it is
    One of this gentleman's video is also in the first post of this thread.

    Gas can go flat through a bubbler?

    I didn't know that.

    I hear that the fabric material is made of humidifier fabric.
  14. vidbid

    #14 ·

    318 Engine Running on Vapor

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUS1rJu7_Jw[/VIDEO]

    318 on gas fumes - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUS1rJu7_Jw
    what about the vapor being run through fuel injectors..

    so I found



    also experiment with fuel injectors

  15. vidbid

    #15 ·

    Latest video on fumes lawnmower:



    (He's heating the fuel and the intake air that goes to make the fumes.)

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqsTaBq1acs[/VIDEO]

    heating the gasoline on lawnmower - YouTube

    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqsTaBq1acs


    Car running on fumes:

    (It's running through a bubbler to make fumes.)

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420kq_UFgtg[/VIDEO]



    Code:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=420kq_UFgtg

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