One ring to rule them all
Started by Cherryman · · 15 posts · last reply 3 May 2010
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#1 ·
Let shoot them! ;-)
Hi all.
After numerous fun designs, i think its time to build someting.
I started thinking about this after my buoyancy design ( http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cy-hacked.html ) And linear pick up coils.
After watching a few clips on the web of people shooting stuff away with HHO (potato guns, bottle rockets) i was thinking.. We all try to run existing engines on HHO, why not try to use what we are able to do right now.
Here is a good example of a person shooting some stuff on a very small scale: 9V battery, 20 seconds will give him a projectile. :
YouTube - The RED-Tipped MICRO ROCKET
YouTube - MARCHLABS M13I'm not claiming overunity -
#2 ·
What i'm am curious about is of the concept will proof to be an efficient way to harnes pressure difference.
The magnet, going around inside the torus shaped ring, in combination with the pick up coils. (How they are utalized best is the next challange).
The "input" does not have to be a combustion. Any kind of pressure difference will do. As long as you have a valve that blocks the pipe behind the magnet when the pressure input occures and will be out of the way when the magnet closes its loop.
This could be:
Heat (heated gasses or liquids)
Air pressure (wind difference, compressed air..)
And combustion.
( Maybe you could reverse it with an one magnet no baring bedini and create a small compressor ;-)
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#3 ·
The "bullet" will travel very fast. It will not only be shot away, but also rotating around its own axle.

This you can influence by controlling the weight and schape of the bullet.
The simplest projectile will be a round ball, if you want you're own magnet set-up you can put the ones you like inside the ball
Example:

This will make it easy to experiment with different magnet and coil setups. -
#4 ·
The first explosions ;-)
Hairspray:
YouTube - Air inflow after explosion
HHO / oxygen (Brown gas...etc)
YouTube - HHO controlled explosion -
#5 ·
Another test.
I switched poles. The explostion is different, but to early to say it is of the switching.
Notice how the plastic cap has taken of before you see the flame!
YouTube - Second HHO Switched poles -
#6 ·
I have noticed another strange thing in my experiments.
It seems (not sure yet!) That if i change polarity, the "bang" changes.
My simple cell is like this:
Bottom plug is made of sink (anodized?)
A litte above that a stainless bold with a stainless ring.
Tapwater with soda.
Now:
Stainles + Sink - = Hi pitched fast Peng
Stainles - Sink + = Lower "slower?" Bwof
To soon to draw conclusions, it could also be because of different volume/time. -
#7 ·
Kind of like this in partial? YouTube - PVCTubeAction -
#8 ·
Year great!Xenomorph wrote:
Kind of like this in partial? YouTube - PVCTubeAction
The other way around actually, i shoot the magnet around and try to pick energy up with coils all around the torus tube.
Did any more with the tube?
Good work!
edit:
Another one, it's fun! ;-)
YouTube - HHO Drie -
#9 ·
So far:
It seems that connecting the positive to the stainless and the negative to the sinc gives the best effect.
Not only in production speed, as well as in most agressive bang. Higer speed.
(The "implosion" afterwards not yet measured)
I was hoping it would be the other way around, because the metal connected to the negative is the corroding metal as i understand electrolyses well.
My detonator is hanging in the middle. My basic plan is ignite it as soon as it is possible.
My cell i in the same pipe, this way i have the most simple and direct acces to the gas. I also can easaly change the size of the combustion chamber by adjusting the water level.
So far the explosion seems to start UNDER the igniter. This surprises me, as i was thinking the gas would "gather" at the top..
Still a lot to learn.
Nightshot:
(Noitice how low the explosion is this time, it still varies )
YouTube - HHO 4 -
#10 ·
Watch how the water level in the bucket drops a cm after explosion.
YouTube - HHO 5
And here an output test:
YouTube - HHO 6 -
#11 ·
Had lot's of trouble getting a reliable spark.
Seems to be solved:
Nice sparkling ;-)
YouTube - Spark 1
YouTube - Spark 2 -
#12 ·
Tnx Vickers! I was already thinking no one cared.Vickers wrote:
Hey cherryman, That is some stand out cool **** u doing man. I love it. Keep us up to date on that brother.
Well just having some fun ;-)
I keep having trouble getting a reliable spark however ;-(
And with explosions.. It's nice to know when it's going to explode... -
#13 ·
Nope, this is my first HHO project. My cell is not suited for torch production, i just need the minimum amount of gas for a bang.Vickers wrote:
Cool man, Hey listen my friend.. do you have a hho torch? -
#14 ·
It may has to come to that indeed...
But for now i have an electric (AA battery) BBQ sparker... It sparks nice. But somehow.. When i install it. It will not work always.
Somewhow it finds an easier way... I changed wires.. Tried screws, softwire, hardwire.. It sparks well at the end of the wires, but inside the cube it is unreliable..
Water vapor ??
D*mn ... (I'm an electrical noob either ;-)
I smoke one first, maybe it will come! -
#15 ·
Here a test with the valves in place.
One hand on the igniter
One hand at the end of the hose feeling the pressure.
The pressure is quite noticable and a real short burst.
YouTube - Pressure test 1
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