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You need to explain it

OK, I watched the video. But, I don't know much about what you are doing. You are going to have to explain. There is nothing significant being shown here. There are no earth shattering implications. It is just a simple little chemistry experiment that probably has a simple explanation. Obviously you think there is more to it than what is obvious. So, get busy and explain what you think it means. My chemistry teacher produced some "pure" hydrogen gas using electrolysis and then "lit" it and we watched it burn. No explosion like all the wussy girls were afraid of. So, you create HHO gas and it burns? Nothing to see here. Explain WHY I'm wrong and I will try again to think about the "implications" because there does not seem to be any thing new here.

Frequency

Hi Ben,

Information on the web comes and goes. I have been following this for some time but my memory is not all that precise. However, I distinctly remember that there was not one, but three frequencies that were "mixed" to trigger the disassociation of hydrogen and oxygen in his water fuel cell. All were less than 100 kHz. I think they were all three less than 50 kHz. I never could discern at what power level or voltages they were injected into the cell. Most of the "replications" that are posted on the web seem to be based on conventional hydrolysis. That is quite a distraction, but not unexpected. The video I just watched of Stan Meyer lecturing gave me a better picture of his technology. I also would like to delve into this.

Cold Electricity is many things

It has been 7 days since I started this thread. Sometimes I don't have time to check in consistently.

It seems that there are many ideas for a definition of cold electricity, including the idea that it is an entirely imaginary notion. Skipping that opinion, it appears that cold electricity is one or more of the following.

1. Cold charge (and what exactly is that?)
2. That which produces a endothermic condition
3. Something pertaining to frequency
4. Something pertaining to charge density
5. Something related to back EMF
6. Something having to do with inertia of electrons
7. An electrical vacuum
8. A mysterious cold current
9. X-rays
10. Another name for coherent electricity.

As far as I can tell, we don't really have a consensus view of cold electricity. No one mentioned the thermoelectric effect, also known as the Peltier effect. It seems that the idea of cold electricity may have originated with Gerry Vassilatos. Thanks for everyone's comments in the thread. It does seem there is some measure of sanity and insanity within the community.

Also, by the way, I should have said radiant is electromagnetic waves instead of radio frequency. That way, X-rays would be included along with lower frequency EM we call radio waves.

Let's imagine a simple circuit composed of a battery, a CSR (a current sense resistor) and a resistor for a load. A simple DC circuit. You hook this circuit up and a few seconds later the load resistor is hot, the CSR is hot and the battery is getting warm.

You pick some different components and hook them up. This time, the load resistor gets hot, but the battery and CSR stay cool. You can't feel them getting warmer and your thermometer seems to tell you "nothing is changing temperature wise" in regards to the battery and the CSR.

Probably half of you out there know exactly where this is leading. I'm not aiming this at you. This is for the readers that come on this forum saying, "I want to do what you are doing, but I don't know anything about electricity or electronics. All I know is that Tesla was a genius and his discoveries have been lost."

If you think you have a valid comment or question, I will be glad to hear it. But, it seems to me that a bunch of shallow thinking is getting promoted on this forum. (And I have been a member for quite a while now.)

When Tesla talks about radiant, that is THE SAME THING that we know as radio waves. True, there are radial and longitudinal components, but they are both radio waves. We also have a new vocabulary when it comes to inductors, capacitors, and a whole slew of other new stuff. But, cold electricity is nothing more or less than high voltage, low current circuitry.

If you think you know a better definition or description of cold electricity, this would be a good place for you to lay your cards on the table and explain what you think cold electricity is.

To expand on my thoughts, in great detail and with examples, please download and carefully examine the attached zip file which contain a spreadsheet. It simply uses Ohm's law and the power equation (watts = volts times amps) to show what happens in the simple (DC) circuit described above. It should be very helpful to you, if you are a beginner in the area of electricity and electronics.

Good luck with your experiments and I hope you come up with something that will change the course of history.

Also, by the way, I saw a video posted recently in which a well regarded member of this community discussed a circuit idea related to the notion of cold electricity. I really started to wonder what he is thinking. So, please, share your ideas here if you think I'm on the wrong track.

Alternate energy storage technology

There is a Youtube video floating around somewhere of a guy that uses solar to produce hydrogen which he compresses and stores to use for heating and cooking. It is rather old conventional technology but it does work and might be cost effective for you. How many people are you planning to have on board? Are you using electricity for propulsion or are you using sails?

Related Post

Hey Turner,

There is no need to be discouraged. But there is a constant need to learn and be smart. Look at this post I made a few minutes ago and then come back here.



If you would see your way clear to take my advice, it would be this. Don't waste your time trying to make Walmart or the Rothschilds take some grand action. Bill Gates was an independent smart business man but he sold out to powerful people who now control him. They took his business over a matter of years and he has money but not a lot of leeway in how he spends it. That is a whole story in itself and you will have to dig up the details for yourself.

Instead of that approach, bend your efforts to doing everything you can do in your own sphere of influence using your own time and money. I can't tell you exactly what to do, but if you think clearly and hard, it will come to you.

If you believe in God, use that to your advantage. If not, do it for the sake of humanity. Whatever you do, always try to act with honesty and integrity. If you are able to do that and only that, you will help change the world. And, you may be one that escapes the vengeance of the minority powers.

This think this is an appropriate short video in this thread

Enjoy!

A noticable lack of detail

Perhaps more information will be forthcoming. If not, it will never see the light of day. We have seen this before and it doesn't turn out well.

Read this twice!

The situation is dire. Every knowledgeable person must do their best and do the right thing. What is that? Honestly, arrange your affairs to provide the least possible support to the evil, unthinking, witless zombies that surround us in whatever form. Think hard and be wise. Then, go out and do the RIGHT thing. Also, re-read what UFO says above. It makes a lot of sense.

Welcome

I hope you find the association to be interesting and helpful. To start a conversation, allow me to ask you your opinion of the oil industry. Good, bad or indifferent? Are they doing all they can? All they should? Are they "responsible"? In what ways are they acting responsibly? Is the coal industry any better? I don't mean to chase you away. But, you might as well know that you are about to be introduced to opinions from all points on the spectrum.

Again, welcome. I hope you enjoy the conversation.

According to what I remember of Stanley Meyer and other HHO experimenters the preferred imbodiment uses three frequencies and a somewhat unusual toroidal mixer. Would anyone with first hand knowledge like to enlighten me as to the correct approach? Also, would you like to suggest a supplier for large toroids similar to his?

Great stuff

Thanks, Vorg. Without ever having seen that before, I did not know the art had advanced to that level. I have done some similar experiments but not exactly the same as what he has patented. Based on my personal experience I would say this is a promising way to proceed. There is enough information in the patents for one to reproduce the effect and extend the development in various ways. If you create a derivative product and decide to produce it commercially, you should consider licensing the patent so you don't get sued. After I get some more experience with the idea I may explore contacting them.

I would like to converse with you. I would be happy to show you the work I have done and the devices I have built. I have had some promising results but my product is in development and I could use some financial assistance. Thank-you.