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You can remove the one way valves from air injector tubes redirect them to a paint can with the pcv vapors and water which contain small amounts of oil which would be super heated from the exhaust gases then feed it back in2 the intake.

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> From: bobo <bobo36us2@. ..>
> To: WaterFuel1978@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2007 8:20:58 PM
> Subject: [WaterFuel1978] To All Non Believers
>
> Have you guys seen this video?
>
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=GUnvindP4GM


--- In WaterFuel1978@ yahoogroups. com, Andrew Spencer
<spencera12@ ...> wrote:
>
> Not to rain on the parade but a spark plug, if working properly,
arcs electrical current over an air gap which becomes a low
resistance medium therefore producing plasma. Even the Model T
produced plasma. So someone unhooked their spark plug... and? that
is how I test ignition systems on older cars. Hell if you have coil
packs unplug the two wires next to each other then start the car.
That will make a nice size plasma arc. Just make sure you have a
scan tool to reassure your ECU that all is well after you are done
playing.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Andrew
>


Did you watch the whole video?
I can't imagine that you did, because
it looks to me like he has gotten the
plasma effect that we've all been
searching for.

Am I missing something? How is the
plasma in this video different from S1r's?

Bob

using emissions as patone device

I'm thinking about trying to use the engines air injectors from smog pump to create a pantone type device using the crankcase ventilation. Has anyone tried this yet?

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Re: [WaterFuel1978] Fast Imports experiments suggest water fractures at time of combustion

I have a fuel cracking processor... but it converts used motor oil into
diesel... Not exactly what you are talking about... but it is a fuel
cracker.

J

fast_imports3 wrote:
>
> I recently got my plasma ignition to act right.
> And built a cold fog generator to use in testing..
>
> 1st ignition test was on a 2cycle blower motor.
> Here are the results.
> I fired up the motor running on gasoline with the ignition hooked up.
> Then using my adjustable resistor I adjusted the resistance from
> 22ohm to 7ohms. With the engine at full throttle when I hit 7ohm
> range the rpm's picked up.
>
> 2nd test was on another blower with no fuel in it..Plasma ignition
> hooked up and fed by cold fog gen into carb boot...
>
> I squirted gasoline to prime the engine and warm it up. After warmed
> up I squirted one last squirt to fire it up. Then fed the fog vapor
> to it through the carb.. The engine did not run smooth. But it stayed
> running longer than any of the other times with the same amount of
> fuel...
> Also when I was to try and remove the fog vapor feed tube the engine
> would start to stall out...
> The engine ended up water fouling due to being a 2cycle engine and
> condensating in the crankcase but the plug was creamy light brown....
>
> 3rd on a 87 Chevy van with TBI 305ci engine.
> I only added the cold fog gen because van still has resistor plugs in
> it... I used a 2 id hose to connect it to the carb. I fired the van
> which has sat in the drive for years now... This is more of a
> emissions test as the van is not tagged and I can't drive it...
> Anyway I let the van warm up which at that time the engine smelled
> rich due to age and sitting for so long... I then turned on the Cold
> fog vapor gen.. And within minutes the exhaust gases smelled like
> rotten egg smell you sometimes get from a new car... So the emissions
> dropped and the catalytic convertor started to clean itself is what
> that tells me....So far everything is lookin up here...
>
> Now to strike a thought.
> Who has ever heard of fuel cracking????
> These experiments suggest that if you were to use Hydroxy gas as a
> fuel that you might achieve a certain fuel cracking process or
> fracturing of water..Because of the engine temp, hot spark, and fuel
> to start the process...
>
> Let me hear your thoughts... I need feed back on observations here...
>
> Thank you,
> Todd
>
>

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Re: Plasma Ignition HV Diode Upgrade

Hi Todd,

thanks for the link. Question, how would one set these HV diodes to a
modern ignition system, the kind that the on board computer controls.

Any help would be great.

Luc

--- In [email protected], "fast_imports3"
<fast_imports3@...> wrote:
>
> This diode will allow you to drop more amperage without blowing the
> system.
>
> 30kV 2A High Voltage Diode HV Rectifier Tesla coil Ham
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160156177237
>
>
> Todd
>






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here:s the power supply for it.

pics of 1st system to be seen working on youtube in Oct 2007

Sorry never drew a very good schematic no1 ever understood them. Here's pic since you insist upon it. I was the original discover amongst these water powered forums to show a working unit. Micheal Couch and many other yahoo group members will remember.

Here's what the ignition is used for....
Papp Engine

Flux compression generator2 This is fired by a piston.


Self feeding Flux compression This is also fired by a plasma.


Flux compression generator