Tojaja

ok, thanks SeaMonkey,
I will try it w/o the EFIE, can do no harm, at the worst there is only some more
fuel consumption.
I let you know in time what is happening.

Gr. Jan

update

I was working on the safety connections in the car and i, unfortunately,
discovered that my car does have a O2-sensor.
It's a sensor with narrowband output.
This means that i have to study the EFIE.
This also explains the exhaust gasses in the first place.
So now i'm going to make an EFIE first before testing with parallel configuration
of the booster.
I first need data on my car!

To be continued!

thanks SeaMonkey, looking good.
About the salt, i just used that for passivation. Caustic Soda (NaOH) will be the
electrolyzer in the car.
I will be easy on the salt next time because i have seen some corrosion around
the nylon shims. .
I tested the cell on my car. When about 11-12 amps i had 1 LPM.
I think that's ok with this configuration.
Connected it to the air filter and expected something to hear but that wasn't
the case.
Exhaust gasses though seemed to be pure water (no smell and clear fluid
drops when holding my hand to the exhaust).
When installed properly i will go to the garage where they can test the
exhaust gasses (hope they will work with me).
Have to test it running some miles and see if there is any difference in fuel
consumption and engine power.
Maybe the engine has to burn clean first.

Meanwhile i can work on a parallel configuration.

To be continued!

Update

I have the plates passivated.
Needed just 0.5gr salt / 1 liter distilled water.
Was running on 1 amp (0.5 amp per serie) and within half an hour the salt
was all used and the fluid brown.
Cleaned the plates and did a second electrolysis with the salt.

Cleaned the plates again and conditioned the plates by running electrolysis
with Caustic Soda (NaOH) for 24 hours with 3-4 amps (1-2 per serie).
Temp. was around 36 degrees Celsius.

I tested the LPM (started with approx. 7 amps) -> LPM = 0.5

Temperature wasn't rising very fast and since my power supply has a max.
continu amp.flow of 6 amps i couldn't test for a long time.

I compared with other cells and they started with 0.5 LPM / 5 amps.

I am now going to build it in my car, see what is does.

Maybe someone has suggestions to improve the cell because i need to
many amps (7) to get 0.5 LPM.
Now it's like the Smack's Booster (2x 4 pair of plates in serie), and i am
looking for a DC-DC (12 to 3 volts) converter wich can run a min. of 15 amps. so i can test the cell with the plates parallel.

To be continued!

Ok, thanks for now.

To be continued!

Yes, thank you, i now remember how to calculate the current density (was a long time ago i learn it in school ).
This also means that in principle the Smack Booster design uses a to high current (2 seperate series of 4 plate pairs (4.5x2.75 inch each = 12.4 sq inch/plate = almost similar to the plates i use) and running with 20/2 = 10 amps per serie.
This is 5x the recommended safe max. current.
You said that chromium doesn't stay inert using a current about 250 milli-amps/sq inch. The max current should then be 12.4x250=3.1 amps
When i was testing i measured approx. 7V and 7 amps. I was making some chromiumoxide or ferrochromium (and maybe Cr(VI)) then.
Back to the drawing table.
In the meanwhile i will passivate and condition the plates.
I wonder if it will produce enough hydrogen with the low amps

thanks!

Hello Jetijs and SeaMonkey,

Thank you for your quick reply.
You gave me enough info to work on.
To be continued!
For you SeaMonkey I have a question regarding the max. amps per sq inch.
I use 8 sets of plates (110x75mm (4 1/3 x 3 inch) plate dim.).
This is 13 sq inch effective area per plate -> 2x8x13 = 208 sq inch
With the recommended 150 milli-amps/sq inch i can safely run approx 30 amps.
Is that correct or do i have to calculate per pair so 15 amps stays as max.?

Jan