Tishatang
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Here is a link to guy who claims the secret is richening the mixture to unleash the power of acetone. More power along with better mpg. Claims 22mpg V-8 to get 88mpg???
Article:Truth About Acetone and Ethanol - PESWiki
Is this our needed miracle?
tishatang
Article:Truth About Acetone and Ethanol - PESWiki
Is this our needed miracle?
tishatang
Hi Jetijs,
I also have been thinking that a vapor system is the way to go. I am still stuck in China and can't do any experiments, but here is my idea. I hope it is not too simplistic?
Run a fuel line as the input to an A/C compressor. The output goes to the standard A/C expansion valve or capillary tube into an expansion chamber. The other end of the chamber goes into the engine manifold vacuum. The fuel under pressure enters the expansion chamber and vaporizes as it enters the vacuum of the chamber. Standard A/C principles. You will have to heat the chamber because it will get cold. It could be set in the air flow of the radiator fan or heated by the hot water or exhaust heat. Since the compressor is direct coupled to the engine, it will put out more fuel in proportion to engine speed. As you open the throttle, the expansion tank will supply quick fuel vapor until the lag of the expansion process fills the tank again. Remember expansion chamber under manifold vacuum, so temperature needed to vaporize fuel will be lower. Standard carb butterfly or throttle body butterfly to control air supply, engine speed to control vapor supply. Place expansion tank in vertical position with capillary at top. Then non vaporized particles should go through engine as they would anyway. No drain clean out valve needed.
Will probably have to add one-way fuel line valves and backfire safety valve.
If we are lucky, the standard automotive A/C expansion valve will pass enough fuel to test principle. Variables to fine tune would be capillary size, expansion tank size and diameter of drive pulleys. Pressure of expansion tank will cycle compressor off and on when cruising at high rpm will low load. In short, use all the engineering of an A/C system to make the fuel vapors.
Tishatang
I also have been thinking that a vapor system is the way to go. I am still stuck in China and can't do any experiments, but here is my idea. I hope it is not too simplistic?
Run a fuel line as the input to an A/C compressor. The output goes to the standard A/C expansion valve or capillary tube into an expansion chamber. The other end of the chamber goes into the engine manifold vacuum. The fuel under pressure enters the expansion chamber and vaporizes as it enters the vacuum of the chamber. Standard A/C principles. You will have to heat the chamber because it will get cold. It could be set in the air flow of the radiator fan or heated by the hot water or exhaust heat. Since the compressor is direct coupled to the engine, it will put out more fuel in proportion to engine speed. As you open the throttle, the expansion tank will supply quick fuel vapor until the lag of the expansion process fills the tank again. Remember expansion chamber under manifold vacuum, so temperature needed to vaporize fuel will be lower. Standard carb butterfly or throttle body butterfly to control air supply, engine speed to control vapor supply. Place expansion tank in vertical position with capillary at top. Then non vaporized particles should go through engine as they would anyway. No drain clean out valve needed.
Will probably have to add one-way fuel line valves and backfire safety valve.
If we are lucky, the standard automotive A/C expansion valve will pass enough fuel to test principle. Variables to fine tune would be capillary size, expansion tank size and diameter of drive pulleys. Pressure of expansion tank will cycle compressor off and on when cruising at high rpm will low load. In short, use all the engineering of an A/C system to make the fuel vapors.
Tishatang
@vzon17
Thanks for the link. Looks very promising. Yes, should work on any vapor system. Probably also for the GEET system as well. It would solve the mixing problem for variable load engine for automotive that a geet system has. Their best results so far seem to be fixed speed engines?
This is also might be answer to the hydroxy people trying to override the CPU of the fuel injection system to lean or richen the mixture. Just add this to to the intake of the FI and maybe turn off the FI system after warm up? What could be better than no CPU or injectors to worry about.
Please give us some feedback on the progress of your vapor system.
Chris
Thanks for the link. Looks very promising. Yes, should work on any vapor system. Probably also for the GEET system as well. It would solve the mixing problem for variable load engine for automotive that a geet system has. Their best results so far seem to be fixed speed engines?
This is also might be answer to the hydroxy people trying to override the CPU of the fuel injection system to lean or richen the mixture. Just add this to to the intake of the FI and maybe turn off the FI system after warm up? What could be better than no CPU or injectors to worry about.
Please give us some feedback on the progress of your vapor system.
Chris
propane conversion unit for sale
If anyone lives near Northern California, about 2 hours NW of Sacramento, I have an old propane conversion unit out of an old carbed Toyota pickup. Has 40 gallon tank about 1/3 full. Will sell all cheap for $200. Allows you to switch form gas to propane on the fly. Have now newer FI Toyota that I thought I would adapt, but realize I will never get around to it.
Chris
If anyone lives near Northern California, about 2 hours NW of Sacramento, I have an old propane conversion unit out of an old carbed Toyota pickup. Has 40 gallon tank about 1/3 full. Will sell all cheap for $200. Allows you to switch form gas to propane on the fly. Have now newer FI Toyota that I thought I would adapt, but realize I will never get around to it.
Chris