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Savvypro

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What Cracks Water?

#10 ·

Just to add to what Aaron had said.

Space isn't a "perfect vacuum", if it was - you couldn't see or detect anything.
Space just has very little matter compared, to say the atmosphere.

Relaxation Time and Semiconductors

#4 ·

The patent numbers for Tesla's Electrical Condensers are:
464,667 - 1891 - Electrical Condenser (oil condenser)
567,818 - 1896 - Electrical Condenser (salt solution one)
577,671 - 1897 - Manufacture of Electrical Condensers, Coils,

Coulld "water" help Japanese nuclear meltdown?

#12 ·

kcarring wrote:

I think that was the dilemna; no other options. As of late I have heard they are running out of seawater too, and even for a short while considered flying water in via helicopter.

Things do not look good. I feel so bad for those people. Having those power generators (and even plants) at such an altitude/height... what were they thinking. So easy for us to reflect back and make such comments, but, truly... why was such a hazard issue left unaddressed. After Sanriku on the island of Honshu, The coasts of Colombia and Ecuador, The indian Ocean... SO MANY EVENTS have proven the need for safety... wow. In my mind, we cannot, (as a society of engineered experts) BE SO STUPID, we can only be so greedy, as to be fallible in these ways.
You might want to question the credibility of the people you got that information from as the plant was built right on the coast at sea level (not at altitude/height). So unless they drained the sea, they have a loooooooooooooooong way to go before running out of sea water.

The flying in of water would have been for demineralised water, as that's what is normally used to cool/use in the reactors. Flying in sea water would have just been for total greed - to milk the disaster for all they can.


On a different note, there is a bigger problem - each reactor building also stored spent fuel rods above the reactor core as well as in large pools.
The storage tanks above the reactors are not as well protected as the cores, their also based on a General Electric design - so the American engineers are talking out of their ass.

Each reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi plant produces about 700 spent rods a year, with potentially over 600,000 being stored on the site.

The irony is that, last year construction started on a purpose built spent fuel rod storage and processing plant. However the first building will not be opened until next year. The following powerpoint covers the new construction as well as where all the fuel rods are stored and how.

See: http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/acc...powerpoint.pdf

Coulld "water" help Japanese nuclear meltdown?

#6 ·

Gustav Le Bon did an experiment in which he heated up radium to over 1000c and found that for about 28 days the radium stopped being radioactive.

Browns gas may do the same thing. It may not permanently stop something from being radioactive but temporarily cause it to stop emitting for a short period of time.

Earth Generated Water

#7 ·

I know this is an old thread, but I found it by accident while looking for something else.

The Stephan Riess process in the linked post reminds of a well my father dug in his early 20’s. He and a friend went down 7 meters in to solid bed rock by hand using a pick and shovel (over a number of weeks) at the bottom they dug a horizontal tunnel again by hand - but this time it took even longer going sideways as the rock just seamed to get harder and harder. The interesting bit is that the hole and tunnel was dry, no normal ground water.

One day while swing the pick at the rock not they chipped off a large chip (no larger than 20 cm wide) and open a small crack. When that happened water started gushing out. The way he described it to me, it sounded like he stuck a city water main. Only issue is that the nearest water main at the time would have been 60 miles away.

The crack wasn’t that large, but they fund the water starting to fill the well up very quickly, that they raced out of the tunnel and out of the well.

Over the years, (about 30 or so), my father and a number of other people have tried to dry the well as an experiment, but they have never been able to do so.

The water is always stirring, very cold, and I do mean very cold.

The spot they started digging in was chosen simply because of a patch of small tiny red flowers that only grows by water sources in that area.

If I can get a picture of the flower I'll post it.

If we find free energy, then what?

#12 ·

Memberships/Private clubs are also another way to cut through unnecessary red tape.

On the then what questions, based on past results keeping the secret and trying to make trillions doesn't work as people have been killed, scared off or paid off (you could say they are the lucky ones).

Releasing the information would have to be done in such a way that it instantly becomes public knowledge. Tom Bearden in one of the energy of the vacuums dvd tells how he did it with a discovery. However it sill didn’t get a working device into the hands of the masses.

Which means it may have to involve multiple approaches - depending on the “free energy” method/device.

A combination of kits, plans and release of information may be the way to go.

Edison battery

#3 ·

I'd be surprised if anyone was still making them for sale. Having just read the whole book I get the feeling that using nano particles of the various materials should allow for smaller size batteries with the same output . Or greater output for the same size battery.

Those batteries sure were put through their paces back then, I wonder if any of the modern batteries could handle the same tests today.

Sun Catalytix 30kwh device

#2 ·

The interesting bits from the article are in bold (which I've added to the quote):

With one bottle of drinking water and four hours of sunlight, MIT chemist Dan Nocera claims that he can produce 30 KWh of electricity, which is enough to power an entire household in the developing world. With about three gallons of river water, he could satisfy the daily energy needs of a large American home. The key to these claims is a new, affordable catalyst that uses solar electricity to split water and generate hydrogen.
Using the electricity generated from a 30-square-meter photovoltaic array, Nocera’s cobalt-phosphate catalyst converts water and carbon dioxide into hydrogen and oxygen. The process is similar to organic photosynthesis, except that in nature, plants create energy in the form of sugars instead of hydrogen.
Looks like they claim 25% conversion efficiency. Would be interesting to know what photovoltaic's thay are using to get that level of efficiency.

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#14 ·

Nice find

Electrotek wrote:

While surfing the patent data base at google.com/patents I ran across an energy producing system which is a mechanically powered laser. (#4831627) The device uses a rotating magnetic funnel to convert hydrogen gas into a laser beam. The patent keeps talking about converting mass to energy but from what I can tell it's the breakdown of the hydrogen molecule which produces the lasing. It says some debris needs to be periodically removed from the chamber, with new hydrogen added. Perhaps if a higher temperature were used the atomic hydrogen would recombine, providing a closed system? A device like this would be easier to make than the furnace.
Electrotek,

Interesting find , the converting mass to energy bit may be in there so as not to arouse suspicions at the patent office , then again it could well be what's taking place.

In Lynes writing about the process he seams to be under the impression that very little to none of the gas is used up allowing for it to be reused continuously.

In the patent it does state that other gases could be use as long as the magnetic field strength is altered in strength to compensate for the gas used. So a helium version could be made, with a potential of up to 460,000 calories/gram-atom output.

I've only just skimmed the patent and couldn't find what the chamber is made of, I'll read it in full later on.

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#11 ·

aljhoa wrote:

What this process generates if 8,400 degrees C is
the external sun’s temperature (8400/2210=3.8=4)?
BROWN’S GAS FACTS
INTERACTIVE COMBUSTION EFFECT
Theoretical flame temperature is 2,210 to 2,900 degrees C. However, it changes with different applications. Tests have been made which exceed 6,000 degrees C. Further tests have been conducted indicating in excess of 8,400 degrees C. (8,400 C. = 15,1 52 F.).
See also
Browns Gas History
Al

For the furnace - only hydrogen is use, no oxygen involved.

From my understanding of the way the Atomic hydrogen welder operates, the H2 is split into 2H (atomic form) by the ark and then recombines to H2 on the material being welded. The process allows welding to take place without the material oxidizing. No oxygen used in the welding process.

My knowledge of the Browns Gas process is very limited so if I'm wrong please say so. Just from the Browns Gas Facts link you provided - from going by points 19, 20 and 21 it sounds like the same hydrogen process as described above may be happening in both the Browns Gas and Atomic hydrogen processes. But with the Browns Gas process Oxygen is included in the mixture.

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#9 ·

RAMSET wrote:

Savy
Pardon me for not looking in more detail
No problem.

On the nuclear issue - it is a valid point, for all we know it could well be a nuclear reaction that is taking place.

Within Lynes 2nd book Occult Ether Physics, he does state that the atomic hydrogen process could well be the reason behind the excess heat output in cold fusion experiments.

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#4 ·

Chet,

That's just one of Patrick J. Kelly's interpretation or possible explanations of what may be going on to produce a COP of greater than 1.

If a nuclear reaction was taking place then the Atomic hydrogen welding systems would all be banned.

As far as I can tell the furnace is basically an atomic hydrogen welding torch inside a container so as to be able to reuse the hydrogen.

Also radiation tests we done with the results shown on the following page: Radiations measurement on the MAHG v2.0 by JL Naudin

The followng is taken from the end of the page:
Comments: As you may notice in the diagram above, no anomalous radiations (alpha, beta, gamma and X-radiations) have been detected close to the main reaction chamber of MAHG during the one hour test run. This confirms that the MAHG process is clean and safe...
Although it's not really that conclusive compared to over 60+ years of use as a welding system. Atomic Hydrogen Welding

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#2 ·

88 views and not a single peep.

Seams Patrick J. Kelly was right when he wrote the folling in the Doubtful Devices section:


Moller’s Atomic Hydrogen Generator. One already successful experiment can be found at
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/mahg/tests/index.htm where the highly resourceful researcher JL Naudin shows
many successful tests on a system which can be found at the http://jlnlabs.imars.com/mahg/article.htm
website. Please check out these very well presented sites. This system should not be called the “Moller”
system as it was originated by William Lyne and published in his book “Occult Ether Systems” in 1997.
William Lyne states that in 1999, Nikolas Moller bought a copy of his book and subsequently claimed that he
(Moller) had invented the Atomic Hydrogen Generator, quoting directly from Lyne’s book. This system
should be called the “Lyne Atomic Hydrogen Generator”.

This system involves repeatedly converting a completely contained body of hydrogen gas from its diatomic
state (H2 where two hydrogen atoms are bonded together to form a stable molecule), to its monatomic state
H-H (where two hydrogen atoms remain as separate atoms, not closely bonded together) and back again.

No hydrogen is consumed. No additional gas is required. The gas is just converted from one state to the
other repeatedly. The problem for conventional science is that the output power measured in tests is
typically 15 times greater than the input power in carefully measured tests run for periods of more than half
an hour. Clearly, additional power is coming from somewhere - possibly the Zero-Point Energy field,
possibly from the conversion of a minute amount of the gas from matter into energy (which would make this
a practical, room temperature, nuclear reactor). In spite of these results, there appears to be little interest in
this system.
Quote taken from the all in one ebook on page 15-9/10 (page 758 to 759 of the 12 May 2009 version)

Atomic hydrogen furnace with COP of 21

#1 ·

Does anyone know of any other documented replication attempts of the Atomic hydrogen furnace which was first proposed by William R. Lyne in his books: Pentagon Aliens and then covered in detail in his second book Occult Ether Physics (see page 81) - their available on scribd.com.

Over at JLNlabs you'll find the test of the Moller Atomic Hydrogen Generator which show results of different tests with one of them showing a COP of 21 - for run 83 which had an input power of 4.38w and an out put power of 92.97 over the 1 hour period it was tested.

Over at http://www.cheniere.org/misc/a_h%20reaction.htm Tom Bearden lists a possible explanation for what is causing the excess output of energy

Seams to me that this Atomic hydrogen furnace and maybe a helium version if the figures are correct (Lyne states that Helium would give off 460,000 calories/gram-atom about 4 time as much energy as Hydrogen) could well be a very viable method of getting cheap clean abundant energy.